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I just think there are people on here almost desperate for us to fall away so they can start moaning and complaining. They are also desperate to find a scapegoat for their ire to be aimed at. The lad has barely started any games, is yet to settle into the team style but in my opinion (and others I have discussed with) has gradually looked better game after game.
I’m not a clapper and have been a Blade long enough to know that things may fall away but there’s people on here like private Fraser from Dad’s Army - “We’re all doomed!”

I’m beginning to think this is a Sheffield mindset, never mind glass half empty some of them can’t even see the fucking glass!

Rant over :)
this ^^ it's deffo a Sheffield thing .. the city has no confidence which is not surprising all things considered
'it's all gone wrong agean'
'it's tha fault'
'the basted'
'gerrim'
:D
 
One thing holding us back is lack of goals from everyone except Clarke and Sharp ,only Donaldson has more the 1 goal. This was an accusation levelled at Coutts but its the whole team ,it doesn't matter where they come from admittedly as long as we get them but we could do with taking the pressure off Leon a bit ,I think Lundstram could easily end up 3rd top goalscorer this season.
Just realised I put 'holding us back' ffs ,not what I mean ,joint second is amazing.
 
I just think there are people on here almost desperate for us to fall away so they can start moaning and complaining. They are also desperate to find a scapegoat for their ire to be aimed at. The lad has barely started any games, is yet to settle into the team style but in my opinion (and others I have discussed with) has gradually looked better game after game.
I’m not a clapper and have been a Blade long enough to know that things may fall away but there’s people on here like private Fraser from Dad’s Army - “We’re all doomed!”

I’m beginning to think this is a Sheffield mindset, never mind glass half empty some of them can’t even see the fucking glass!

Rant over :)
Thought you were having a rant at me Yellowbelly!! I agree with what you say and the usual mob who don't understand the game are at its usual we must drown them out or better still have them stay at home we don't nee negative fans who can't wait to slag us off.
 
Understand folk moaning about Lundstram. He’s trying to replace the best midfielder we have had for 40 years. So obviously people will compare. But give the guy a break he was easy 7 out of 10 today, a few misplaced passes but come on get real he was good - he is good.

But what I can’t fathom is people saying detrimental things regarding Duffy, unacceptable completely this is the most entertaining player i’ve seen at the Lane for years and years he is fantastic -simple class. I love watching him - he is sooooo skilfull. Moan at him and you are either thick or have no idea about football.

Wilder has brought us the best brand of football in 4 decades- thanks Chris don’t let idiots derail you whatsoever.

1 point from 6 in last 2 matches but the entertainment 10/10. No complaints whatsoever.

This team is fantastic.

I agree what you say about Lundstram and Duffy, but does that mean we're not allowed to comment if they have a poor game then?

I suppose it depends on what you mean by detrimental?
 
I agree what you say about Lundstram and Duffy, but does that mean we're not allowed to comment if they have a poor game then?

I suppose it depends on what you mean by detrimental?


No one is saying that are they? There's prejudgement on Lundstram, has been all season.

The last two games Brooks has come on, tried stuff which didn't come off and made some poor decisions when he found space. That's youth and inexperience. I've seen players slaughtered over the years for much the same. Lundstram for example isn't much older yet plenty have written him off some simply because he isn't Coutts. I'd guess Wilder knows he isn't and oddly gives him game time, despite him being shite.

I thought Duffy, Basham and Sharp were well below their best yesterday. I managed to refrain from shouting that they were useless.
 
My brief says where's there's blame theres a claim. I'm suing you you for my split sides Gannon?

Gannon was dross early on with us, class as we rose through the leagues. This isn't a joke it's a fact, his passing and dead ball plays were as good as any we've had (in my time as a Blade)
 
I think Lundstrum is doing OK - but Wilder summed it up - he's a young player, who cost only £600K trying to get used to the Championship. I still think we need to replace Coutts in January (as far as possible).
 
Gannon was dross early on with us, class as we rose through the leagues. This isn't a joke it's a fact, his passing and dead ball plays were as good as any we've had (in my time as a Blade)
Just watch the clips of our goals in that era and see how many Gannon was involved in. The vast majority and some of his deliveries were top class. And that was in the top flight.
 
Just watch the clips of our goals in that era and see how many Gannon was involved in. The vast majority and some of his deliveries were top class. And that was in the top flight.

Not just me then lol - remember after this game he received a 10/10 score and was described as an extraordinary talent by Spurs management.

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Think there's plenty to be said on this. Firstly, a general point on the forum. For every fan that may be 'looking' for reasons to criticise Lundstram (and personally I don't believe any fan looks for this, I don't know why they would) there is another fan which will always look to defend him blindly.

My first comment would be about Wilder's comments. Ofcourse he's going to say Lundstram played well. I aren't saying Wilder doesn't believe it, but when asked a direct question he simply has no alternative than to say he played well. I also don't think 'wilder said he played well' is necessarily a great support for Lundstram because Wilder had to say that. (Again, I'm not sayin he doesn't think it, but even if he didn't, Wilder would still say that)

Secondly, I think we are yet to see the best of him because he doesn't strike me as having the fearlessness the other players have. Lundstram is very safe. I don't know if he has the capability to do what Coutts did, or not, because he is very 'safe' in his approach. Dare I say, a little bit Hammond-esque in as much as his first thought is to protect the ball and retain possession rather than look forward and risk an incisive ball.

Also, simple stats don't read well. When Lundstram has started, our win percentage is 20%. When he doesn't start, our win percentage is 78.6%. It's not like he's played against all the top sides too, every match he's played has been against mid table to lower mid table sides.

Finally - 'bet these are the same people wishing Coutts to leave 18 months ago'. Well I can confirm that isn't true for at least one fan. I have always rated Coutts, ever when we signed him and he was playing RW! Granted, I never imagined he'd become the player he is. I'm yet to see that in Lundstram (not to say I can't be wrong about him!).

Some of my post is in his defence, some shares some of my concerns and criticisms. However, it's a valid opinion to want o try something else, just as much as there's validity on wanting him to get a run in the team. It's opinions, and My opinion will change if/when his performances improve. We need to get out of this mentality of always thinking fans are 'for' or 'against' players. At the moment, I personally don't think he is good enough. I'll gladly eat my words if he improves, but to criticise our opinion simply on the grounds that you think I, and others, are just 'looking' for an excuse to criticise him is wrong and nonsensical.
 
No one is saying that are they? There's prejudgement on Lundstram, has been all season.

The last two games Brooks has come on, tried stuff which didn't come off and made some poor decisions when he found space. That's youth and inexperience. I've seen players slaughtered over the years for much the same. Lundstram for example isn't much older yet plenty have written him off some simply because he isn't Coutts. I'd guess Wilder knows he isn't and oddly gives him game time, despite him being shite.

I thought Duffy, Basham and Sharp were well below their best yesterday. I managed to refrain from shouting that they were useless.
Thought Duffy was always trying to make things happen which means when they don't come off he can look poor but always looking for the ball,think the rest of your post is spot on.
Unfortunately we have some fans (and all clubs have tbem) who need a scapegoat going right back through history they've always been there it's frustration which causes this ( never hear them when things are going really we ). Just wish they understood the game better but can't see that happening anytime.e soon.
Wilder keeps appealing for fans to be. Supportive when things are not running smoothly but it falls on deaf ears.
Just seen Hudders take the lead against City ,they played the game like teams are starting to play against us nicked a goal .
Didn't last long did it!.
Wilder has us playing a very technical attacking game ,he will not change the style but more quality into it ( Doasnt happen over night as we progress we should enjoy the ride.
 
I think it's a combination of people being thick and not knowing eff all about football. OP is spot on.
 
Think there's plenty to be said on this. Firstly, a general point on the forum. For every fan that may be 'looking' for reasons to criticise Lundstram (and personally I don't believe any fan looks for this, I don't know why they would) there is another fan which will always look to defend him blindly.

My first comment would be about Wilder's comments. Ofcourse he's going to say Lundstram played well. I aren't saying Wilder doesn't believe it, but when asked a direct question he simply has no alternative than to say he played well. I also don't think 'wilder said he played well' is necessarily a great support for Lundstram because Wilder had to say that. (Again, I'm not sayin he doesn't think it, but even if he didn't, Wilder would still say that)

Secondly, I think we are yet to see the best of him because he doesn't strike me as having the fearlessness the other players have. Lundstram is very safe. I don't know if he has the capability to do what Coutts did, or not, because he is very 'safe' in his approach. Dare I say, a little bit Hammond-esque in as much as his first thought is to protect the ball and retain possession rather than look forward and risk an incisive ball.

Also, simple stats don't read well. When Lundstram has started, our win percentage is 20%. When he doesn't start, our win percentage is 78.6%. It's not like he's played against all the top sides too, every match he's played has been against mid table to lower mid table sides.

Finally - 'bet these are the same people wishing Coutts to leave 18 months ago'. Well I can confirm that isn't true for at least one fan. I have always rated Coutts, ever when we signed him and he was playing RW! Granted, I never imagined he'd become the player he is. I'm yet to see that in Lundstram (not to say I can't be wrong about him!).

Some of my post is in his defence, some shares some of my concerns and criticisms. However, it's a valid opinion to want o try something else, just as much as there's validity on wanting him to get a run in the team. It's opinions, and My opinion will change if/when his performances improve. We need to get out of this mentality of always thinking fans are 'for' or 'against' players. At the moment, I personally don't think he is good enough. I'll gladly eat my words if he improves, but to criticise our opinion simply on the grounds that you think I, and others, are just 'looking' for an excuse to criticise him is wrong and nonsensical.
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Is it too early to say that I think once Lundstram has settled he'll go on to be better than Coutts?
 
I can’t believe that after the last six years people are flapping over not winning in two! I can only presume you have been winding up the pigs too much and you’re starting to count the points difference
 

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