Hull 1 United 0 - report/ratings

[Harry's Game]

Rotten result,

Brightish start but chins hit the floor as soon as Hull scored and we looked like we didn’t believe we could get back into it once we fell behind, and that is against a pretty poor Hull side, I dread to think what will happen when we go up against teams like Coventry.

I can’t be arsed to give individual ratings as I’m losing interest rapidly and quite frankly we look absolutely nailed on to be relegated.

I don’t think Wilder has improved us much at all, yes Selles had to go but the reappointment of Wilder looks an absolute disaster.

50 points look light years away for this squad, I know people, are hoping we are not to far adrift come The January Transfer window and we can fix things then but I remember this is the same management and recruitment team that messed up last January so I have no confidence at all they will get it right this time, and it won’t be long before the debate begins whether Wilder is the right man to get us back from League one at the first attempt.

Glad its the International break now and United won’t be ruining another weekend for a bit.

 

[TJ blade]

Bit like your attitude and posts ..... pal

Wake fucking up pal!

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Your opening para highlights how there is delusion that Wilder 2.0 is the same as Wilder 1.0. I am a Wilder fan, but the run we have been on with Wilder 2.0 (even if you exclude the intermission under Selles) since Easter is an absolute disgrace. It is a further disgrace that the issues which undermined us at the end of last season were not addressed over the summer, including:

Lack of pace
Poor midfield that couldn't create saliva and offers zero goals / creativity
One up front with strikers that don't suit one up front
A lack of a right back
Poor back ups for the keeper and left back
No wingers in a wingers based system.

Wilder couldn't influence the summer transfer window, so he gets a pass for that. But even as a Wilder fan, he can't indefinitely get a pass for the utter sh1t being served up on the pitch right now (which has been going on under his leadership last Easter).

 

[Deadbat]

Really do appreciate the effort this must take, and would miss not seeing your report

But it does seem now that you're playing the result/ pandering to some of the smaller brains on here.

If playing the result is being critical of us losing every week (3 league wins in half a year!) then yeah, guilty as charged!

 

[bladesince64]

Need to play 2 up top to create more goalscoring opportunities.

I would play Ings alongside One/Campbell (alternating)

Drop O'Hare and Peck and play Davies with Soumare centrally.

Ogbene out wide and Seriki on the other flank.

Thought McCallum did ok today, probably keep him in.

Got to make some changes or we're gonna be going down.

 

[1973Blade]

Need to play 2 up top to create more goalscoring opportunities.

I would play Ings alongside One/Campbell (alternating)

Drop O'Hare and Peck and play Davies with Soumare centrally.

Ogbene out wide and Seriki on the other flank.

Thought McCallum did ok today, probably keep him in.

Got to make some changes or we're gonna be going down.

Agree with that apart from Seriki on the left , not sure that would work?

 

[Brookblade]

I didn't watch the game, only saw Burrows penalty which he hit hard and true, keeper did well.

Agree recruitment has been a disaster, especially when you consider both Anel and Souza went for big sums this Summer... Tanganga, Mee and possibly Ings the only ones who look respectable and 2 of them came on free transfers. We need assurances that whatever scouting and recruitment methodology was used in the Summer will NEVER be used again.

Hard and true, give over a natural strike for a left footer is to put it to the keepers left, not open your body up to put it to the keepers right. Knew he would miss it, Burrows has fell off a cliff and he's not on his own. Maybe the demoralising Wembley defeat is too big a hangover for our players to shake off

 

[Harry's Game]

Selecting Tom Cannon for the match day squad is now beyond stupid, it can only be down stubbornness as it’s clear the fans don’t want him in the side and it’s looks just as obvious to me he’d rather not be here.

Put him on gardening leave and sell him at the first opportunity In January for a nominal fee, he is currently a massive albatross around the clubs neck.

 

[bakeblade]

Selecting Tom Cannon for the match day squad is now beyond stupid, it can only be down stubbornness as it’s clear the fans don’t want him in the side and it’s looks just as obvious to me he’d rather not be here.

Put him on gardening leave and sell him at the first opportunity In January for a nominal fee, he is currently a massive albatross around the clubs neck.

Just put him in the U23s and get a loan lined up for him on January 1st. Someone will be daft enough to take him.

 

[Harry's Game]

Just put him in the U23s and get a loan lined up for him on January 1st. Someone will be daft enough to take him.

A bit unfair lumbering the u21s with him, they play with attacking verve why force this life sucking void onto them?

 

[TJ blade]

Bit like your attitude and posts ..... pal

Ffs! Wakey wakey!!

 

[TJ blade]

Rotten result,

Brightish start but chins hit the floor as soon as Hull scored and we looked like we didn’t believe we could get back into it once we fell behind, and that is against a pretty poor Hull side, I dread to think what will happen when we go up against teams like Coventry.

I can’t be arsed to give individual ratings as I’m losing interest rapidly and quite frankly we look absolutely nailed on to be relegated.

I don’t think Wilder has improved us much at all, yes Selles had to go but the reappointment of Wilder looks an absolute disaster.

50 points look light years away for this squad, I know people, are hoping we are not to far adrift come The January Transfer window and we can fix things then but I remember this is the same management and recruitment team that messed up last January so I have no confidence at all they will get it right this time, and it won’t be long before the debate begins whether Wilder is the right man to get us back from League one at the first attempt.

Glad its the International break now and United won’t be ruining another weekend for a bit.

See Sitwell! He thinks we will be fine

 

[1987]

If playing the result is being critical of us losing every week (3 league wins in half a year!) then yeah, guilty as charged!

Playing the result = some people feel a certain way so I'll play to it.

In reality last 2 weeks have not been too bad, today especially we should have won. I wonder how your scores would have differed if we had scored a penalty.

And that's where, really, youre playing to the miserable crowd. Not that you need much of an excuse

 

[Deadbat]

Playing the result = some people feel a certain way so I'll play to it.

In reality last 2 weeks have not been too bad, today especially we should have won. I wonder how your scores would have differed if we had scored a penalty.

And that's where, really, youre playing to the miserable crowd. Not that you need much of an excuse

Or we've lost, played crap against an awful side who've shipped goals all season but rarely tested till last few mins, so I've offered an honest assessment. I admire your positivity but the last 2 weeks have been only marginally better than under Selles. It's not about playing to any crowd. I just call it as I see it.

Hard not to be miserable when we have lost 9 in 10 games I'm sorry to say.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

McGuinness is shit pal!

I feel McGuinness is decent myself.

 

[FulwoodBlades]

Agree with your report today and most weeks. You have good insights which you put over in nice short pithy statements. Enjoy reading your reports each week. You bring clarity to what I was struggling to make clear to myself.

 

[Geordie Blade]

Curious at to whose decision it was then? It's his decision to sign the contract to return.

I suspect that he was still technically under contract and was called back in. So he didn’t sign any contract to return.

 

[Wards]

Goes against the grain and what I've thought of his performances so far but McGuiness was decent yesterday. In fact I thought the back 3 plus McCallum were all decent enough.

From where I was sat it was hard to get a decent perspective on how much room McCallum allowed their winger for the goal but outside of that he was by far our best player in the first half and many around us were a bit bewildered when we subbed him off.

I was as disappointed as many immediately afterwards but on reflection it wasn't a terrible away performance. The lack of chance creation is worrying but we certainly did enough for a point at the very least.

One or two of their fans on the way out wondered how/why we were bottom but we'd just lost to them and I felt they were awful so that probably tells you why!

 

[Carlton Blade]

It was a standard, cautious away performance under Wilder, and unfortunately we lost out by the odd goal. It's better than it was under Selles but based on what we saw last season with a much better squad, I'm not sure a huge amount of attacking improvement is guaranteed.

We have 3 points from 9 games and keep giving up big chances from shocking defending, and not taking the few chances we do create. Scoring 0 against a team as shaky as that isn't a good sign. We only had 7 shots, 1 on target in the first 85 minutes. 3 shots, 0 on target from the 40th to the 85th minute despite being 1-0 down in a must win game. It took desperation attacking and Hull clinging on for anything to happen.

A bit better than Selles, competitive with a poor Hull team might not be enough to dig out of this hole.

 

[bartman]

Selecting Tom Cannon for the match day squad is now beyond stupid, it can only be down stubbornness as it’s clear the fans don’t want him in the side and it’s looks just as obvious to me he’d rather not be here.

Put him on gardening leave and sell him at the first opportunity In January for a nominal fee, he is currently a massive albatross around the clubs neck.

In fairness, no manager will drop because 'it is clear than fans don't want him in the side'.

However, Wilder does have to take responsibility for signing him and not playing a style that suits him( if there is one...and if not why was he signed)

 

[Blade59]

I said after the Southampton game that we would have probably got something against a team with less quality. Sadly yesterday proved I was wrong. Hull were bang average at best and we got a break with the penalty but still got nothing. Yes we had a lot of possession but it is mostly pointless 5 yard passes that have no positive impact. Defensively we at least we don't look like conceding 3 or 4 every game any more but one is enough to see us off as we rarely look like scoring. As someone once said a team that doesn't score goals will not win matches. This side has got relegation written all over it and we have to accept it will be an uphill struggle to stay up and the odds are not looking good.. Chris can say the formation is not the problem but 3 goals in 9 games and very few chances created suggest otherwise.

We have two weeks to try and sort this mess out before the next game. I think we have to have a system that has 2 strikers from the start as none are cable of playing a loan striker role and there are no goal threats (Hamer apart) anywhere else in the team. I would start with Campbell or Ings with Cannon (yes I know but he has the least impact of the bench of all our strikers and we are limited for choice) with One and Ings or Campbell to then come off the bench.

 

[Grappler]

The Sky Sports commentators said that Hull had not kept a clean sheet in the last 25 games.

Then up steps Sheffield United.

Too many weak, small players, I'm afraid. Hull were pretty crap, 30% possession, but we couldn't put them to the sword.

Campbell up front, alone, is not working, so why persist with it?, at one point, the ball was punted up field, and Campbell was first to it, out wide, up in the corner to the left of the Hull goal (as you face it), with virtually all our players in our own half. He got the ball, turned round, and there is no one there, no one running into their box.

Not sure where we go from here, other than League One.

As I said in the "are we in a relegation battle" thread, these players, on paper, are too good to be relegated, but we are where we are, rock bottom and looking like we won't win a game from now until the end of the season.

I just hope to God that there are some decent, free signings out there, players with some experience, coming to the end of their careers who can come in and help get us to 4th from bottom.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

I think that we should have a core of Cooper, Mee, Davies, Hamer and Ings. The rest are pretty much interchangeable, with possibly, Peck, Taranga and Ogbene and O’Hare on the fringe of that group. You could see from the passing of Hamer into Ings that the two of them will create chances if on the pitch for long enough.
McCallum surprised me yesterday, just by the fact that he made a number of accurate passes, which he normally doesn’t.
October is a big month now, time to reset the team, if Wilder is capable of that, and then some winnable games