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I know we have done this before but this thread someone directed me to is incredible. Some bits of grudgijng praise but still the same arrogant, misguided attitude to things.

Still have this percepion that this natural order will be restored eventually. They have not been in the top fligh for 20 years. They are quite simply deluded.

https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/280922-the-shadow-of-the-blades/?page=3
 



I know we have done this before but this thread someone directed me to is incredible. Some bits of grudgijng praise but still the same arrogant, misguided attitude to things.

Still have this percepion that this natural order will be restored eventually. They have not been in the top fligh for 20 years. They are quite simply deluded.

https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/280922-the-shadow-of-the-blades/?page=3

This natural order, we've been above them what...13/18 seasons this millennium?
 
It’s terrifying them we might go up isn’t it?

In all honesty if it wasn’t for the Club future securing money on offer I wouldn’t be that bothered about going up, I much prefer to watch Championship football on TV than the Premier League as it is.
 
The stages of thinking, such as they are, go something like this:-

We won’t get promoted from L1

The Championship is a much tougher league than when we got relegated, we will struggle

We won’t last the pace (2017/18)

We won’t last the pace (2018/19)

If we go up, we will get hammered every week, Wilder will leave, the squad will break up

The essence of the argument is that even though it’s going OK at the moment, it will shortly go wrong. Coincidentally, this is exactly the opposite of what will happen to them. It has been going wrong, but now Tubby Bruce is there, it’s just a matter of time before it all turns around and up they go.
 
Seems to be the out of towners that are worse, with those living in Sheffield more realistic.

Just imagine growing up living in Barnsley, Doncaster or Rotherham in the early 90’s.
You’re a glory hunter and want to support a local team with the best reputation playing entertaining football.
In the early 90’s the fashionable and obvious choice was to support Wednesday, they had a great reputation in the national media.

It’s those fans that are now in the most turmoil. They have convinced themselves that Wednesday are one of the biggest clubs in England, better players, play better football and the best chance of regularly watching top flight football.

Local Sheffielders might say “Wednesday are crap but I don’t care and will always support them”
The out of towners say “Wednesday are the biggest club in the area and will be back in the PL, if not next year then the year after”.
 
Seems to be the out of towners that are worse, with those living in Sheffield more realistic.

Just imagine growing up living in Barnsley, Doncaster or Rotherham in the early 90’s.
You’re a glory hunter and want to support a local team with the best reputation playing entertaining football.
In the early 90’s the fashionable and obvious choice was to support Wednesday, they had a great reputation in the national media.

It’s those fans that are now in the most turmoil. They have convinced themselves that Wednesday are one of the biggest clubs in England, better players, play better football and the best chance of regularly watching top flight football.

Local Sheffielders might say “Wednesday are crap but I don’t care and will always support them”
The out of towners say “Wednesday are the biggest club in the area and will be back in the PL, if not next year then the year after”.
Bang on. No one starts supporting the Blades because they think we’re going to win trophies or because they genuinely think we’re one of the big boys, a sleeping Man U. You start going through family or mates or just curiosity and realise you want to be part of it.

In the nineties the pigs did indeed portray themselves as a proper big club based on their ‘history’ (compare their history with that of the clubs they think they’re rivals of and it just doesn’t stand up) and a couple of good seasons at the dawn of the PL era. They’re not, the glory seekers bought into the myth.
 
Seems to be the out of towners that are worse, with those living in Sheffield more realistic.

Just imagine growing up living in Barnsley, Doncaster or Rotherham in the early 90’s.
You’re a glory hunter and want to support a local team with the best reputation playing entertaining football.
In the early 90’s the fashionable and obvious choice was to support Wednesday, they had a great reputation in the national media.

It’s those fans that are now in the most turmoil. They have convinced themselves that Wednesday are one of the biggest clubs in England, better players, play better football and the best chance of regularly watching top flight football.

Local Sheffielders might say “Wednesday are crap but I don’t care and will always support them”
The out of towners say “Wednesday are the biggest club in the area and will be back in the PL, if not next year then the year after”.
That was precisely my position.im from the dearne valley just outside Barnsley and started watching the blades in 88 . The pig fans over here have always been the same.it seems to be the older ones as well .don't get me wrong I'm not tarring them all with the same brush but rather than looking at things logically and looking at the facts regarding things like ffp for example, they just seem to be blinkered and think the rules are different to them.ive tried having conversations with a few regarding chancer and they still think he a life long fan and saviour of the club!
 
It’s terrifying them we might go up isn’t it?

In all honesty if it wasn’t for the Club future securing money on offer I wouldn’t be that bothered about going up, I much prefer to watch Championship football on TV than the Premier League as it is.
Likewise. The money would be any easy solution for our two owners’ fight and, assuming Wilder is still here to spend it, we should be able to invest it well enough to make sure we have five or so years at the level we are now or higher.

But apart from that, being a top championship club is great, we’re always on TV, the pundits love us, the football is good quality and the supporters feel connected to the club.
 



Am I right in thinking that since they came out of the PL, every single season we’ve been in the same division we’ve finished above them (barring the one obvious one)?
 
Is it me or does the majority of the conversation on that page go on about how much of a threat we might be after we've been relegated from the Premier League?!

Christ almighty!

I genuinely think they are talking us up as already being promoted so if it doesn't work out they can revel in our misery!

They did the same with the last two derbies at the lane talk about it being a cricket score and we'll batter them knowing they'll probably carve out a draw.

Balls to em. They'll still claim to be the biggest team in Yorkshire even if they ceased to exist!
 
"I really couldn’t give a flying f**k what the pigs do. They are an irrelevance and quite insignificant. They will always be the second club in Sheffield. Everyone knows it."

"I don't mind if they go up. Just feeds their delusions of being the bigger club. They know it's not true deep down & so does the rest of the country. Never hear anyone neutral say Sheffield United belong back in the premier league, it is always Sheffield Wednesday should be a premier league club."

"Much as i hate him as his mardy scummy chip on his shoulder about Wednesday manner so typical of a large part of their sad fans, Wilder is almost unbelievably (to look and listen to him) clearly a very good tactician and manager."

So we've got a chip on our shoulder mardy about wendy manner.... Maybe he should read some of those deluded comments above to see why. These cretins really are unbelievable and so self unaware it's scary. They truly are a different breed
 
Seems to be the out of towners that are worse, with those living in Sheffield more realistic.

Just imagine growing up living in Barnsley, Doncaster or Rotherham in the early 90’s.
You’re a glory hunter and want to support a local team with the best reputation playing entertaining football.
In the early 90’s the fashionable and obvious choice was to support Wednesday, they had a great reputation in the national media.

It’s those fans that are now in the most turmoil. They have convinced themselves that Wednesday are one of the biggest clubs in England, better players, play better football and the best chance of regularly watching top flight football.

Local Sheffielders might say “Wednesday are crap but I don’t care and will always support them”
The out of towners say “Wednesday are the biggest club in the area and will be back in the PL, if not next year then the year after”.
Wednesday were the fashionable club, in the early nineties, for the glory hunter that didn’t want to be too obvious about it.

After them it was Newcastle, who I keep hearing are also a massive club but can’t find any evidence, apart from a purple patch in the nineties, to back this up.
 
The 40k a week comment really touched a nerve didn't it ? ,I suppose I would be upset too if my team full of players earning wages that dwarf our biggest rivals turned up at their ground two.seasons running and treated those underpaid vagabonds like the cream of European football by setting up to keep the score down

Wilder really knows how to press their buttons ,I'm sure it's the only time I've ever heard him saying anything about them that wasn't complimentary and they've seized on that ,imagine if he said the truth that them coming to the lane is their cup.final and that's why they set up with two banks of five and celebrate a nil nil like the declaration of independence



I know that but I used them as an example of the PL money myth. Clubs get all of this money for being there but then it has to be factored in the associated losses. The Blunts have been in the PL more recently than us but, in the end, that counted for nothing from a financial perspective. We should concentrate on what we can control. Learn from them and mount a promotion challenge on a realistic, sustainable budget.


This guy obviously hasn't noticed that us being in the premier league is one of the reasons were a bigger club than them now .maybe another visit could fund the ground developments thst could see us getting double their gates or even be the 3rd team in Sheffield to average over 30 thousand in a season since the 70's

With the other two being us and erm yes us
 
I know we have done this before but this thread someone directed me to is incredible. Some bits of grudgijng praise but still the same arrogant, misguided attitude to things.

Still have this percepion that this natural order will be restored eventually. They have not been in the top fligh for 20 years. They are quite simply deluded.

https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/280922-the-shadow-of-the-blades/?page=3

And it's us that are supposed to be obsessed with the pigs!!!
 
Couldn't agree more.
Why are some on here even bothered what that lot think? Personally I couldn't give a hoot about them. Or a grunt.
Enjoy what we are currently experiencing; we don't need any piggy approval to do that.
UTMB.
No ones looking for approval
 
And it's us that are supposed to be obsessed with the pigs!!!

There is a certain irony having two threads on our forum talking about a thread showing how they’re obsessed. In reality we’re as interested in them as they are in us. It has always been so, and will continue to be so until the end of time.
 
Why are some on here even bothered what that lot think?
It's for the comedy aspect mostly but I also like to know there are some Wednesday fans on porktalk who aren't subhuman; Asteener (the OP) and ChinaOwl give fair accounts of themselves.
 
Posted a link to it last night. They are priceless.
 



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