How old are the mardy bums on here?

[Hillsboro Blade]

A Utd legend once told me " I love the Utd fans, but 99% of them know fuck all about football"
Always stuck with me that

“99% of us know nowt fuckers pay your wages”.

 

[Bert]

I don't know. The simple answer is that I'm wrong and Bert is correct when it comes to estimating crowd numbers. He might have the precise, cultured eye of an aesthete, and I, the unrefined eye of a ruffian.

Or it might be as Pommpey suggests that the attendance is based upon bought tickets rather than bums on seats. If my memory serves me, I think Arsenal calculate their official attendances by this method, or at least used to.

Going back 25 to 30 yrs, it always seemed to be the other way at Bramall Lane. When the attendance was read out, it always seemed visibly to be a couple of 000's light.

They do give the attendance as tickets sold, which is crap but Bert's experienced eye still had it at upwards of 28,000 bodies. The only real big gaps were with the Blackpool section.

Although he was in the ground he watched the entire game on his phone. Better camera angles fella.

 

[pommpey]

They do give the attendance as tickets sold, which is crap but Bert's experienced eye still had it at upwards of 28,000 bodies. The only real big gaps were with the Blackpool section.

Although he was in the ground he watched the entire game on his phone. Better camera angles fella.

Pommpey had Bert owing a drone that followed the ball at fifty feet above the play.

pommpey

 

[jim2007]

They do give the attendance as tickets sold, which is crap but Bert's experienced eye still had it at upwards of 28,000 bodies. The only real big gaps were with the Blackpool section.

Although he was in the ground he watched the entire game on his phone. Better camera angles fella.

I have been in the box at Derby County watching the computer count the admissions. Unless it was a 'special' fixture, the actual attendance - bums on seats - was always 10-12% lower than the published fixture. If Forest were in town, for example, then the actual figure would be much closer to the published figure 3% maybe. For 'ordinary' games the 10% rule applied pretty consistently. Can't see any reason why we would be any different.

My own personal rule of thumb is those crap seats behind the pillars on the kop. If they've got people in them, published attendance will be close to 31000 and the actual attendance will likely be a shade over 30k. Seems no matter the match there will be some people who pay for a ticket and don't turn up.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Talking about pot calling the kettle, the OP sets up a thread about anyone complaining about Hecky etc. You have to question how old the people are that set up such a thread and complain. Certainly not mature enough to accept any argument.

I don't think most people mind sensible discussion, or even sensible fury. That's what a forum partly is.
It's the point at which people start kicking off that's the issue.
It's turning into Twitter, with dozens of furious posters who aren't happy the world hasn't been delivered into their laps.

We are joint top and we've got manager out threads. That's the problem.

 

[Gimli]

“99% of us know nowt fuckers pay your wages”.

Doesn’t make him incorrect…

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

Doesn’t make him incorrect…

Makes him a bit of an arrogant twat…

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

A Utd legend once told me " I love the Utd fans, but 99% of them know fuck all about football"
Always stuck with me that

Watching certain United players over the years, 99% of the fuckers knew fuck all about football.

 

[LSF]

Yet some act as though he is



Meaning 'not pommpey'. I mean, I've been watching, playing, sometimes coaching and officiating football for the best part of fifty five years now, including offering online punditry too. It's a struggle to match your rose-tinted view of what is, ostensibly a mediocre midfielder who is buoyed by flattering 'statistics' which don't really match what actually is happening down on the green stuff. Let's put it this way ... I have seen better, more prolific and more productive midfielders both in and out of our kit and some even at lower league levels, even though you come across as though he is the best and will only be the best we've even had. Micheal Brown, Dane Whitehouse, Tony Currie, Trevor Hockey and even Don Hutchinson must be either spinning in their graves or getting a low bowel cramp that someone somewhere (who 'understands modern tactics', like you) thinks they are less of a player than one Oliver Norwood.

pommpey

I rarely get involved in these subjective player good/crap debates, especially with someone who's as ferocious as you in their opinions.
However, I feel that comparing our Ollie to some predecessors is a bit of a limp argument.
As for Hockey, how old were you when you saw him play? My guess, knowing you went to school with WC, is around 10 or 11? Not a good age to appreciate fully a player's worth to the team.
Hockey had around one good season as our ball winner/nasty fucker and was unceremoniously ditched by the sound judgement of John Harris and replaced by a much more cultured Keith Eddy. You could argue Norwoods contribution to our overall cause has been far more significant.
I'll give you the others except maybe TC, but he's an unfair comparison to any subsequent midfielders.
But I'd argue Norwood, despite his flaws, has been as good if not better than your other comparison names to the cause of SUFC.
I too played at a decent level, coached, managed, watched at all levels, and Oliver Norwood imo, is an exceptionally competent footballer who has played at the top end of our system his whole career.
But I respect your opinion differs greatly.

 

[BigBed]

My girlfriend is 17, I'm 18ish, but look a lot lot older apparently........

 

[Bladesman]

Mate, I struggle, still, to see what novelty people see in Oliver Norwood. I tend to get entertained and excited by goals and wins, others get all pre-cum when he knocks balls out wide to marked wingbacks without any support. If we won games on that, fair point, but Norwood ain Kante, De Breyne or even Trevor Hockey. And despite his great free kick early in the season and yesterdays goal, the number of times we have seen this supposedly gifted baller have people in the crowd behind the goal catch the ball rather than the goalkeeper on the opposite side is notable as a fucking statistic too.

pommpey

Norwood is what he is and thats a very good Championship midfielder who has helped us get to the PL and may do so again.

He isn't a Kante or a KDB because if he was he wouldn't be playing in our midfield. I am not entirely sure what some of our fans expect from our players.

Stats wise Norwood is up there with the divisions best BUT when he has a bad game it really shows as everything tends to go through him.

Anyway....

 

[Lower Drop Blade]

I'm 52 and moan like fuck

 

[pommpey]

Norwood is what he is and thats a very good Championship midfielder who has helped us get to the PL and may do so again.

He isn't a Kante or a KDB because if he was he wouldn't be playing in our midfield. I am not entirely sure what some of our fans expect from our players.

Stats wise Norwood is up there with the divisions best BUT when he has a bad game it really shows as everything tends to go through him.

Anyway....

'SkyBet Team of the Week'

Possibly put together by a pair of trainee researchers over WhatsApp who frankly don't give a fat fuck about Championship football.

'Midfield ... ?'

'Um ... no idea.'

'Ollie Norwood?'

'Who's he?'

'Played for Fulham. I like Fulham. My second fave team after Man City. My grandad liked them too. Said they were a great side.'

'What's that players name?'

'Norwood. Oliver Norwood.'

'Hang on. Just ... how do you spell it?'

'N-O-R-W-O-O-D'

' ... got it. He plays in midfield?'

'Yep. Hurry up. This has to be in by six and I wanna get a shower and go out and get pissed.'

'Yeah. Just put him down. He looks good.'

'Ace. Just having a shit. See you in the bar at half six. Staroporen for me.'

'You mean Staropramen?'

'Yeah. Send the team to Miles. No idea who most of them are. Don't give a fuck.'

pommpey

 

[Silent Blade]

'SkyBet Team of the Week'

Possibly put together by a pair of trainee researchers over WhatsApp who frankly don't give a fat fuck about Championship football.

'Midfield ... ?'

'Um ... no idea.'

'Ollie Norwood?'

'Who's he?'

'Played for Fulham. I like Fulham. My second fave team after Man City. My grandad liked them too. Said they were a great side.'

'What's that players name?'

'Norwood. Oliver Norwood.'

'Hang on. Just ... how do you spell it?'

'N-O-R-W-O-O-D'

' ... got it. He plays in midfield?'

'Yep. Hurry up. This has to be in by six and I wanna get a shower and go out and get pissed.'

'Yeah. Just put him down. He looks good.'

'Ace. Just having a shit. See you in the bar at half six. Staroporen for me.'

'You mean Staropramen?'

'Yeah. Send the team to Miles. No idea who most of them are. Don't give a fuck.'

pommpey

 

[Gimli]

I agree with Kop finest on Twitter.

Edit - I don’t agree with him using the word ‘fact’ to qualify his opinion - however much I might agree with his Norwood views.

 

[Bladesman]

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I agree with Kop finest on Twitter.

Edit - I don’t agree with him using the word ‘fact’ to qualify his opinion - however much I might agree with his Norwood views.

 

[Bladesman]

'SkyBet Team of the Week'

Possibly put together by a pair of trainee researchers over WhatsApp who frankly don't give a fat fuck about Championship football.

'Midfield ... ?'

'Um ... no idea.'

'Ollie Norwood?'

'Who's he?'

'Played for Fulham. I like Fulham. My second fave team after Man City. My grandad liked them too. Said they were a great side.'

'What's that players name?'

'Norwood. Oliver Norwood.'

'Hang on. Just ... how do you spell it?'

'N-O-R-W-O-O-D'

' ... got it. He plays in midfield?'

'Yep. Hurry up. This has to be in by six and I wanna get a shower and go out and get pissed.'

'Yeah. Just put him down. He looks good.'

'Ace. Just having a shit. See you in the bar at half six. Staroporen for me.'

'You mean Staropramen?'

'Yeah. Send the team to Miles. No idea who most of them are. Don't give a fuck.'

pommpey

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

28.5k? Plenty of empty seats in both the SS and the Kop.

 

[KiwiBlabe]

'SkyBet Team of the Week'

Possibly put together by a pair of trainee researchers over WhatsApp who frankly don't give a fat fuck about Championship football.

'Midfield ... ?'

'Um ... no idea.'

'Ollie Norwood?'

'Who's he?'

'Played for Fulham. I like Fulham. My second fave team after Man City. My grandad liked them too. Said they were a great side.'

'What's that players name?'

'Norwood. Oliver Norwood.'

'Hang on. Just ... how do you spell it?'

'N-O-R-W-O-O-D'

' ... got it. He plays in midfield?'

'Yep. Hurry up. This has to be in by six and I wanna get a shower and go out and get pissed.'

'Yeah. Just put him down. He looks good.'

'Ace. Just having a shit. See you in the bar at half six. Staroporen for me.'

'You mean Staropramen?'

'Yeah. Send the team to Miles. No idea who most of them are. Don't give a fuck.'

pommpey

Watching SUTV they mentioned Norwood has been in the team of the week 9 times already, so I'm pretty sure they know how to spell his name.
Listening to JOC and Duffy waxing lyrical about him too suggests there are people who like Norwood that seem to know something about the game.
Maybe, just maybe you don't know quite as much as you think?

 

[duke]

I would guess between 14 and 25/30 years old.
Can they not see that the management team are doing their utmost in extraordinary circumstances? All you hear is moan moan moan, blaming everything from Hecky down to the Physios and kit washers.
I would guess that these "fans" are rather immature and can't cope with losing a couple of games and are unable to see the bigger picture.
Get behind the Club, Hecky and the lads. When all our players are fit we are better than anything in this division, so put a sock in it and give the management a bit of a break.

How old is derfblade?