Honest discussion about the atmosphere

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YES Blade said:
It’s Plymouth at home, a match that everyone at the Lane expected us to win, including the Plymouth fans.

As we didn’t manage to put in an entertaining performance, the atmosphere was always going to be crap. That’s just how football is!
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It’s mad isn’t it? We go to Arsenal/Man U/any established premier team and they have the same attitude about playing us. Our fans are like ‘what a shit atmosphere there’ while there fans are like ‘we don’t care about little Sheffield United’ whilst watching their team dismantle us and win by a few goals with little threat coming back.
 

The atmosphere is poor because what we are playing for doesn’t feel new and exciting anymore. Simple as that. Fans grow vocal when something transformative is on the line in a season. Genuinely believe the atmosphere yesterday would have been louder if we were bottom and playing them.
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
It is only Plymouth, but I spoke to a few after the match who go away a lot. They commented on it being poor, and obviously that's in comparison to other teams who are playing Plymouth.
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The difference is there is now an expectation for us to beat Plymouth easily, how many other clubs in the Championship have that same expectation?

It’s similar to Man City, how many matches do their fans turn up to expecting an easy win? That mentality is always going to effect the atmosphere.

When you’re one of the best teams in the league, it’s just always going to happen.
 
Mag-83 said:
We are almost half way through the season and are three points clear at the top of the league despite having a 2 point deduction. Yet there are plenty on here saying “yes but we played shit.” “Yes but the atmosphere is shit.” “Fans leave early and so the fans are shit.” It is as if certain sections of our fans are in such a perpetual state of misery that they cannot and will not enjoy the good times. Snap out of it FFS.
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I think there has always been a state of mind like that. I first became a regular during the Bassett double promotion and then was old enough to have my own season ticket thereafter. Looking back at the season where we had just got promoted from the third division and ended up joint top and getting promoted again there seemed very little joy on the kop. Lots of moaning ‘we won again but Gannon/Morris is shit’ kind of things. I don’t know if these people had been scarred by the previous ten years or so of shitness but there was definitely something stopping them deriving any pleasure from what was essentially one of the most memorable, unique set of over achieving players we will ever witness.
 
TCsLoveChild said:
I went to Millwall on Wednesday and can hand on heart testify that this is bollox. Apart from the ground being nearly empty the only noise/ atmosphere came from the travelling Blades. UTB
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I also went to Millwall on Wednesday, I was also surprised how empty it was and yet despite that, they made more noise than we do at home in a drab game.
 
diplomat said:
I think there has always been a state of mind like that. I first became a regular during the Bassett double promotion and then was old enough to have my own season ticket thereafter. Looking back at the season where we had just got promoted from the third division and ended up joint top and getting promoted again there seemed very little joy on the kop. Lots of moaning ‘we won again but Gannon/Morris is shit’ kind of things. I don’t know if these people had been scarred by the previous ten years or so of shitness but there was definitely something stopping them deriving any pleasure from what was essentially one of the most memorable, unique set of over achieving players we will ever witness.
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Morris was shit tbf
 
S64 Blade said:
The only way it’ll ever change is by something organised. Other than Leeds I can’t think of another ground in the country that has a decent atmosphere, that’s not organised.
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I've been to Bellend Road a few times when the atmosphere has been dire.

Yeah, it's fantastic when it's going on but let's not pretend that's every week.
 
There's a huge memory loss amongst our fanbase.

As long as I can remember, early 80s, our support at home has been less than great in these type of matches.

Going back to promotions under Bassett there was some shocking atmospheres in games where we were expected to win. Not just a lack of noise but getting on the team's back too. Oxford stands out as a bad one.

Football has changed but atmospheres at the Lane have never been consistent in my time. You need games where it's not seen by many as a routine win, backs to the wall scenario, some controversy playing out, or the right away fans, to create the better ones.
 
AWetFlannel said:
I also went to Millwall on Wednesday, I was also surprised how empty it was and yet despite that, they made more noise than we do at home in a drab game.
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All I can say is that the 4 of us that went in our party actually commented on how bad the atmosphere was and the total lack of noise from the home support. Maybe we are all deaf 🤷‍♂️ Leeds away this year were excellent and Pompey weren’t bad, but other than that none of the others I can recall being any better than ours. UTB
 
TCsLoveChild said:
All I can say is that the 4 of us that went in our party actually commented on how bad the atmosphere was and the total lack of noise from the home support. Maybe we are all deaf 🤷‍♂️ Leeds away this year were excellent and Pompey weren’t bad, but other than that none of the others I can recall being any better than ours. UTB
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West Brom outsang us last week.
 
Atmosphere has been generally awful everywhere since we were ordered to sit down.
The kop in the early 80’s was magnificent even when we had gates in the mid teens. All the people who wanted to sing could stand next to each other. All the people who didn’t would go where it was quieter, or they got a better view or whatever.
It may have been the right thing to do, but it changed the atmosphere for the worse except for a handful of big games, where everyone stands anyway.
 
YES Blade said:
The difference is there is now an expectation for us to beat Plymouth easily, how many other clubs in the Championship have that same expectation?

It’s similar to Man City, how many matches do their fans turn up to expecting an easy win? That mentality is always going to effect the atmosphere.

When you’re one of the best teams in the league, it’s just always going to happen.
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How quickly our expectations have run away with us. Not half a season ago we were the worst team ever.
 
I def think a safe standing area where like minded fans would congregate would definitely help , I think that would naturally attract ppl who want to create an atmosphere.
I think the issue nowadays is that a lot of the fans that want to sing are spread out over the ground & it’s very difficult to get the atmosphere going when surrounded by quieter ones . I think that’s why we are a lot more vocal away from home , as the like minded are congregated together
The ‘problem’ being do we now have 23k season ticket holders retaining their seat positions so more difficult to create that starting point for a safe standing area ?
 

west_yorks_blade said:
Atmosphere has been generally awful everywhere since we were ordered to sit down.
The kop in the early 80’s was magnificent even when we had gates in the mid teens. All the people who wanted to sing could stand next to each other. All the people who didn’t would go where it was quieter, or they got a better view or whatever.
It may have been the right thing to do, but it changed the atmosphere for the worse except for a handful of big games, where everyone stands anyway.
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As I’ve posted before, I remember many crap games with no atmosphere in the standing days.
 
TCsLoveChild said:
No it’s not, not against us last week anyway. UTB
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I wasn't there last week but have probably been 7 or 8 times and every single one of them have been by an absolute distance better than 99% of the hundreds and hundreds of games I've been too at bramall lane.
 
west_yorks_blade said:
Atmosphere has been generally awful everywhere since we were ordered to sit down.
The kop in the early 80’s was magnificent even when we had gates in the mid teens. All the people who wanted to sing could stand next to each other. All the people who didn’t would go where it was quieter, or they got a better view or whatever.
It may have been the right thing to do, but it changed the atmosphere for the worse except for a handful of big games, where everyone stands anyway.
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There’s this fallacy that the atmosphere dropped off as soon the seating was implemented. As one of a group of ten ST holders sat together two and three rows from from the back, centrally, the atmosphere was still very good.

A ex member on here tried very hard to get something going, l can’t recall large numbers backing him. Where was everyone?
 
Sean Thornton said:
There’s this fallacy that the atmosphere dropped off as soon the seating was implemented. As one of a group of ten ST holders sat together two and three rows from from the back, centrally, the atmosphere was still very good.

A ex member on here tried very hard to get something going, l can’t recall large numbers backing him. Where was everyone?
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It’s not a fallacy, it’s lived experience, from a different person.
Maybe you ten felt no difference, but we did. Maybe you were the core group creating all the atmosphere and we got stuck next to all the boring people.
 
Wapping Blade said:
As I’ve posted before, I remember many crap games with no atmosphere in the standing days.
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Of course. Totally agree.
But when it was good, it was very good. And that happened far more often than it does now.
 
Sean Thornton said:
There’s this fallacy that the atmosphere dropped off as soon the seating was implemented. As one of a group of ten ST holders sat together two and three rows from from the back, centrally, the atmosphere was still very good.

A ex member on here tried very hard to get something going, l can’t recall large numbers backing him. Where was everyone?
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People are way too precious about the seat they rent off the club. If there was a whole reset, take everybodys season ticket seats off them, implement areas where different types of supporters want to sit, everybody could go in areas they want to go then, friends they want to be with, safe standing on both ends, split the bramall lane end in half for home and away fans, all of it safe standing. This is my ideas of the only way to improve it, and it almost certainly would. Yes people would start crying that they've rented a seat for however long and won't be able to go in it no longer but oh well. It's obviously not just bramall lane but we are certainly one of the quietest in the top 2 leagues, Hillsborough is fucking atrocious too whenever I see it on tv. Prices are a joke too which won't help either but that will only continue to go one way.
 
Sean Thornton said:
There’s this fallacy that the atmosphere dropped off as soon the seating was implemented. As one of a group of ten ST holders sat together two and three rows from from the back, centrally, the atmosphere was still very good.

A ex member on here tried very hard to get something going, l can’t recall large numbers backing him. Where was everyone?
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Wasn't Ricky trying to do it from the BLUT due to the ST issue? Not sure that would ever work in a higher league given the away fans below.
 
The atmosphere is directly linked to the action on the pitch....

Yesterday we did a job on the pitch, so the atmosphere was poor..

But how can we complain! We are top, and that yesterday was team management.

Some people just want to moan about something - why not just be happy?
 
Blademan18891889 said:
People are way too precious about the seat they rent off the club. If there was a whole reset, take everybodys season ticket seats off them, implement areas where different types of supporters want to sit, everybody could go in areas they want to go then, friends they want to be with, safe standing on both ends, split the bramall lane end in half for home and away fans, all of it safe standing. This is my ideas of the only way to improve it, and it almost certainly would. Yes people would start crying that they've rented a seat for however long and won't be able to go in it no longer but oh well. It's obviously not just bramall lane but we are certainly one of the quietest in the top 2 leagues, Hillsborough is fucking atrocious too whenever I see it on tv. Prices are a joke too which won't help either but that will only continue to go one way.
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What happened to the singing section in the BLUT? Don’t think there were any ST’s there.
 
west_yorks_blade said:
It’s not a fallacy, it’s lived experience, from a different person.
Maybe you ten felt no difference, but we did. Maybe you were the core group creating all the atmosphere and we got stuck next to all the boring people.
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So did the boring people stop you singing, making a noise?
 

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