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Tony Currie

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From a supporters and management viewpoint we can all see this year we are going to be real contenders. We have recruited excellently and Hecky has done a great job of balancing the back three (Norrington-Davies being a good example).

To my point, promotion is worth at least £150 million plus any further parachute payments so why on earth would you let anyone leave unless the full asking price is achieved, even £30 million for Berge would be peanuts compared to the potential riches. This window is a real test for the prince, the club has invested wisely and is in an enviable position.

Hold your nerve and don't sell!
 

I'm pretty sure if there are no negotiations for any of our players by Monday then nothing will happen, maybe a few sniffing round in Jan, by which if the performances stay on point the prices will go up as will the desperation of any potential buyers.....that'll be the real test for the board if top top money is on the table
 
From a supporters and management viewpoint we can all see this year we are going to be real contenders. We have recruited excellently and Hecky has done a great job of balancing the back three (Norrington-Davies being a good example).

To my point, promotion is worth at least £150 million plus any further parachute payments so why on earth would you let anyone leave unless the full asking price is achieved, even £30 million for Berge would be peanuts compared to the potential riches. This window is a real test for the prince, the club has invested wisely and is in an enviable position.

Hold your nerve and don't sell!

Makes me laugh people wanting to gamble using other peoples money.

Would any supporters be willing to hold their nerve and put £1000 in the kitty.
If we get promoted you get £1500 back, if we fail to gain promotion you lose your £1000.
These are very small amounts compared to what's at stake, so would you gamble your house away regards us gaining promotion.

Also if we did hold our nerve and still failed to get promotion and this lead to us having a points deduction and doing a Derby County.
I wonder how many fans would stay with the club? I reckon the vast majority on here would be giving the owners hell, suggesting they are the worse and most irresponsible owners. Many would be saying it was madness to gamble the future of the club and it was pure greed by the owners.

I remember similar stuff when we were trying to buy Maupay, then McBurnie, then Brewster.
Loads of fans were insisting we wouldn't buy any of these players because we lack ambition
Several even said that Brewster is guaranteed to be a top talent, so pay him what ever he wants and we'll be able to sell for £50 million in a few years when he's kicking around the England team. My point is that risks that look like "sure things" sometimes don't work.

However even though I try to be pessimistic, must admit that with Berge we look like certs for top 2.
Although even without Berge we still have a realistic chance of top 2, but Berge makes us stronger.
To be honest it all depends on the bid, if it's under 20 million then it's not worth considering but close to 25 million makes it tempting.

I suppose a compromise that might be more acceptable is that we sell him for £25 million but are allowed to keep him for this season.
So the other team get their man at a reasonable price, we are promoted back to the PL but we then lose Berge next season and need to buy a replacement.
 
Makes me laugh people wanting to gamble using other peoples money.

Would any supporters be willing to hold their nerve and put £1000 in the kitty.
If we get promoted you get £1500 back, if we fail to gain promotion you lose your £1000.
These are very small amounts compared to what's at stake, so would you gamble your house away regards us gaining promotion.

Also if we did hold our nerve and still failed to get promotion and this lead to us having a points deduction and doing a Derby County.
I wonder how many fans would stay with the club? I reckon the vast majority on here would be giving the owners hell, suggesting they are the worse and most irresponsible owners. Many would be saying it was madness to gamble the future of the club and it was pure greed by the owners.

I remember similar stuff when we were trying to buy Maupay, then McBurnie, then Brewster.
Loads of fans were insisting we wouldn't buy any of these players because we lack ambition
Several even said that Brewster is guaranteed to be a top talent, so pay him what ever he wants and we'll be able to sell for £50 million in a few years when he's kicking around the England team. My point is that risks that look like "sure things" sometimes don't work.

However even though I try to be pessimistic, must admit that with Berge we look like certs for top 2.
Although even without Berge we still have a realistic chance of top 2, but Berge makes us stronger.
To be honest it all depends on the bid, if it's under 20 million then it's not worth considering but close to 25 million makes it tempting.

I suppose a compromise that might be more acceptable is that we sell him for £25 million but are allowed to keep him for this season.
So the other team get their man at a reasonable price, we are promoted back to the PL but we then lose Berge next season and need to buy a replacement.
Plenty of points to play for.
 
From a supporters and management viewpoint we can all see this year we are going to be real contenders. We have recruited excellently and Hecky has done a great job of balancing the back three (Norrington-Davies being a good example).

To my point, promotion is worth at least £150 million plus any further parachute payments so why on earth would you let anyone leave unless the full asking price is achieved, even £30 million for Berge would be peanuts compared to the potential riches. This window is a real test for the prince, the club has invested wisely and is in an enviable position.

Hold your nerve and don't sell!

by the way TC my criticism isn't aimed at you.

It's a general criticism of those that ALWAYS want us to spend...spend...spend...even if we build up massive debt they aren't bothered.
However building up debt to massive levels acts like a weight around our neck.
Keep Berge and we MUST get promoted otherwise we're in big trouble.

However I agree with Stevo, speculation is pretty quiet, almost non existent, so I don't think clubs are will be willing to pay anywhere near our £25 million valuation.
Don't think we'll sell anyone, however I reckon if we're doing well then we could see big bids for Berge and N'Diaye in the January transfer window.
 
I think the £25m figure would have been sufficient to trigger his release if we would not have had such a good start to the season. HRH can see the potential in this team with Berge in it and will now want closer to the £35m release figure.
 
I fear Everton sneaking in as they have many times robbing us of our assets
Fucking Everton, anyone with any ambition would be mental to go there at the moment, they look terrible and are staring relegation squarely in the face. If Berge or Ndiaye go there then I hope we pass them on the way up.

Their ground will look great when it's done, even though it'll be empty with a few hundred Reading fans rattling around in the away end when they're in the Championship next season.

I hope we manage to see the window out unscathed. The negotiation I'd have with Berge would be (assuming the board don't sell him over Hecky's head) would be to stick around and if we don't go up or things are looking bleak in January then feel free to start looking elsewhere.
 
From a supporters and management viewpoint we can all see this year we are going to be real contenders. We have recruited excellently and Hecky has done a great job of balancing the back three (Norrington-Davies being a good example).

To my point, promotion is worth at least £150 million plus any further parachute payments so why on earth would you let anyone leave unless the full asking price is achieved, even £30 million for Berge would be peanuts compared to the potential riches. This window is a real test for the prince, the club has invested wisely and is in an enviable position.

Hold your nerve and don't sell!

I agree in principle, but it isn't as black and white as: "If we keep Berge we definitely go up, if we sell him we definitely don't". In reality, keeping Berge probably increases our chances of promotion from something like 35% to 45%. If that was the case, this would put Berge's 'worth' to us at 10% x £150m = £15m.

Secondly, it's a myth that promotion is worth £150m. Yes, that's the amount that we would get in sponsorship and TV money. However, promotion would also trigger a whole host of wage increases, bonuses and other costs. A lot of teams in the top flight don't turn in a profit at all.
 
Fucking Everton, anyone with any ambition would be mental to go there at the moment, they look terrible and are staring relegation squarely in the face. If Berge or Ndiaye go there then I hope we pass them on the way up.

Their ground will look great when it's done, even though it'll be empty with a few hundred Reading fans rattling around in the away end when they're in the Championship next season.

I hope we manage to see the window out unscathed. The negotiation I'd have with Berge would be (assuming the board don't sell him over Hecky's head) would be to stick around and if we don't go up or things are looking bleak in January then feel free to start looking elsewhere.
If Berge and Ndiay go there were not going anywhere mate!
 
Hold your nerve.......

and BE RUTHLESS

We should still be looking to strengthen

Same applies to the manager and players, need to aim to fucking smash this league and not let up - seize this opportunity in the first half of the season and we'll be there
 
We're 5 games in - so its not so much about holding our nerve, just yet, but its about perspective.

After 5 games we're top of the league and we're looking like were settling into the season nicely. But its 5 games into a long season. I'd normally say to judge us after 10-12 games as thats normally 1/4 of the way in, players are fit, new/ existing managers in the league are finding their feet and whilst its always great to get a good start, there are always sides that start slowly. We can say so far that we've started well.

This season though, i think will be different due to the early start to the season and then the mid season break for the World Cup. I hope we're in a strong position come the World Cup break because the second half will be unpredictable since all momentum will have been lost. Some clubs will lose players to the world cup, others will have strong runs of form interrupted, others will have poor form interrupted. So i think its so important this year to get a lot of points on the board early.

As for sales. Berge would be the big one. He's in his best form since he got here and will have attracted attention, but i'd be surprised if there are any tempting bids which arrive before the end of the window... But there are clubs with money, struggling to gel and might just think that a £35Mill bid could tempt us (it will if it hits the release). We've however brought in plenty of midfielders that can play in an attacking role, so perhaps we're expecting it anyway...

I'm less concerned now about losing players where we have good coverage than i would've been a few years ago. Maybe because its innevitable after spending our parachute payments and maybe because the money in the game is so huge now. The one i wouldn't want to lose is N'Diaye as he's much harder to replace from within.

Make or break season in many ways but its not disaster if we lose players... it just creates a wobble which i am sure that the club want to avoid. Jan sales would be much more likely.
 

From a supporters and management viewpoint we can all see this year we are going to be real contenders. We have recruited excellently and Hecky has done a great job of balancing the back three (Norrington-Davies being a good example).

To my point, promotion is worth at least £150 million plus any further parachute payments so why on earth would you let anyone leave unless the full asking price is achieved, even £30 million for Berge would be peanuts compared to the potential riches. This window is a real test for the prince, the club has invested wisely and is in an enviable position.

Hold your nerve and don't sell!
Agree, but what if Berge wants to go ?
 
Agree, but what if Berge wants to go ?
Well he bloody can`t go ..... he needs to man up and decide where his loyalties lie......

Doesn't he know he's already at the best place for his career development - no other club could offer him what we offer him and deep down i think he knows that
 
From a supporters and management viewpoint we can all see this year we are going to be real contenders. We have recruited excellently and Hecky has done a great job of balancing the back three (Norrington-Davies being a good example).

To my point, promotion is worth at least £150 million plus any further parachute payments so why on earth would you let anyone leave unless the full asking price is achieved, even £30 million for Berge would be peanuts compared to the potential riches. This window is a real test for the prince, the club has invested wisely and is in an enviable position.

Hold your nerve and don't sell!

I'm sure you'll be the first to defend HRH if he takes your advice, Utd don't achieve promotion and are forced into a fire sale next season.

As others have said, it's easy to gamble with other people's money. To date, HRH has played a relatively safe game - yes, he spent big when the club were in the Prem (which he probably regrets) but the club remains effectively debt free, even though they'll most likely have an operating deficit this season.

I for one wouldn't want the club's future to be gambled.
 
Should have sold Berge for around 10 million before the season started.

When the big dogs come calling.

No bigger Blade than me Seth.
 
Yep after refusing the low offers and getting what we asked for, if the same happens with Berge I'll be happy
Yeah, I doubt we’d sell him for less than we paid for him. I think he’d probably accept that. It’s if we were offered, say £25m from a decent club, I think he might push for a move in that scenario.
 

Yeah, I doubt we’d sell him for less than we paid for him. I think he’d probably accept that. It’s if we were offered, say £25m from a decent club, I think he might push for a move in that scenario.
I wouldn't blame him either. He seems like a good lad who wouldn't down tool's to force a move threw (I hope) like Lundstram and Ramsdale
 

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