Higgy

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Me personally? Nope.

You're ruining it now; you've been all right so far, but really? The fact that he dragged himself along like a man with no arms doing an impression of a seal escaping a seal-culler? And then spent the whole of the second half grinning like the idiot he obviously is at the United fans? I'm ashamed he's even associated with the game I love.
 
It's just turned quarter past one on Sunday morning and it appears that the Chesterfield Poet Laureate has fucked off to bed with his sister.

One question remains: It's approximately twelve hours since Higgo's foul and red card; has that Chesterfield player stopped rolling round the pitch yet? ;)
 
Regardless of the player's reaction, it's a red card to go in with a two-footed tackle like that. He couldn't have expected anything else. Stupid and rash by Higdon. I didn't see the play leading up to tackle. Did he lose the ball a few seconds before? Quite often players make rash tackles like that when they have just lost possession. I will repeat it was stupid, but at least it showed that he was committed

On a brighter note, people are forgetting that just a week ago we put in our best performance of the season so far. JCR is fit again and Baxter should be back soon. We could soon have those two and Wallace starting games. Don't write us off just yet.
 
He didn't jump in two footed, both feet were on the ground. If the player hadn't reaction in such a stupid, unsporting, frankly disgraceful way then it might have been a booking. It depends if you saw it as dangerously late. I thought the ball was their to be won. And if you want to know what both feet of the ground looks like...
 
It was very very late but that is not a dangerous tackle. It was on the ground, not over the top of the ball and just a hard challenge. Yellow for me. As I said in shoutbox Paul Scholes did one of them per game.
 
Definite red, a forwards tackle, clumsy, late and in all honesty higden should be shown that thrice a day till he learns not to do things he has no idea how to do.
Saying that the chezzy player should feel ashamed, that reaction was less football and more audition for Breakdance 2 Electric Boogaloo.
My two hopes here and now are clough may now be forced to either give mcnutty an extended run in the team or hit the loan market now rather than later.
My other hope is higden comes back like Doyle after his red last season, a new far better player.
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Are you fekin kidding me!?!? How embarrassing is that!???
When I grew up playing my mind set was to not let a player know if he hurt me,what level do you get to when all that changes and you throw yourself round like a kid having a tantrum in a supermarket?
Pathetic, embarrassing , I hate this girly support sometimes.

*Higdon is still a moron
 
Can't help but notice all the Chessy players running after the event.
Were they running to aid their obviously stricken team-mate? No.
Running to take retribution on Higdon? No.
They were running to the referee to tell him to get a red out.
Priorities. The game's fucked. Last one to leave turn the light out.
 
they were so incensed they ran straight past brick shit house higdon and their transmorphing team mate to demand a red card
fierce rivalry weve got with the buttercups up the road in derbyshire
 
He was always going to get sent off for that regardless of the players reaction to being fouled.
 
I used to say that referees ought to consider giving the foul but still book the victim for diving/simulation.

I'm now going to upgrade that and say that they should also consider straight red cards for diving/simulation.
 

Are you fekin kidding me!?!? How embarrassing is that!???
When I grew up playing my mind set was to not let a player know if he hurt me,what level do you get to when all that changes and you throw yourself round like a kid having a tantrum in a supermarket?
Pathetic, embarrassing , I hate this girly support sometimes.

*Higdon is still a moron

Yes that was always the case. You gritted your teeth and got back up. The acting for the Chesterfield player is pathetic. I often wished that James Corden on "A League of their own" TV show, would give out a weekly Oscar for the best actor, this would win hands down this week.
 
I used to say that referees ought to consider giving the foul but still book the victim for diving/simulation.

I'm now going to upgrade that and say that they should also consider straight red cards for diving/simulation.

I agree cos when all's said and done it's fuckin cheating
 
Well Nigel did ask them to 'man up' and 'get stuck in' and we've seen a bit more of that since.

Higgy was 'only following orders'...
 
I used to say that referees ought to consider giving the foul but still book the victim for diving/simulation.

I'm now going to upgrade that and say that they should also consider straight red cards for diving/simulation.

Despite this fucks obvious playacting to get Higdon red carded, the referee could never be sure that a players wasn't genuinely hurt, so I don't think there will come a time when a player is carded for feigning injury. One of the worst things that ever happened in football was the introductions of yellow/red cards and the powers that be sanctioning bookings/sendings off for nothing tackles, coupled to that the theatricals from the officials who see themselves just as much one of the stars of the show as the players. All part of the "Americanisation" of the game I suppose. Divings another thing though, but we even had our Manager endorsing it last week. Still I suppose now that professional football is a business rather than a sport, there is no need to play in a sportsman like manner is there ?.
 
first time i've seen it.. comical acting but bottom line. it was a straight red.
 
I'm still not convinced it was a straight red, shocking acting after, I take it he went of injured?
 
the referee could never be sure that a players wasn't genuinely hurt
I have to disagree. I've seen players badly hurt and they either lay slumped in a heap or they wave to the bench for immediate assistance. They don't roll over three times, balance on their shoulder, then do 'the worm' before crawling about beating the turf. Also the fact this guy completed the 90 minutes should be a clue that there was no injury worthy of his dramatics.

If you mean that the referees aren't bright enough to understand this you're probably right. Doesn't stop the authorities handing out a ban afterwards.
 
I have to disagree. I've seen players badly hurt and they either lay slumped in a heap or they wave to the bench for immediate assistance. They don't roll over three times, balance on their shoulder, then do 'the worm' before crawling about beating the turf. Also the fact this guy completed the 90 minutes should be a clue that there was no injury worthy of his dramatics.

If you mean that the referees aren't bright enough to understand this you're probably right. Doesn't stop the authorities handing out a ban afterwards.

I can't think where he got that idea from?
 
I have to disagree. I've seen players badly hurt and they either lay slumped in a heap or they wave to the bench for immediate assistance. They don't roll over three times, balance on their shoulder, then do 'the worm' before crawling about beating the turf. Also the fact this guy completed the 90 minutes should be a clue that there was no injury worthy of his dramatics.

If you mean that the referees aren't bright enough to understand this you're probably right. Doesn't stop the authorities handing out a ban afterwards.

I know what your saying Punk Blade, I don't think it's a case of the refs not being bright enough, it's more a case of in this day of "ambulance chasing " lawyers, no referees going to take a chance, everyone could see the purpose of this cheats theatricals and it worked and I'm sure the official could as well, however it was always going to be a red card whether the player reacted like he did or not. Higdon shouldn't have made the tackle however and deserves every bit of criticism from the fans but, was it any worse than the tackle Doyle was sent off for last season ?before we give him too hard a time.
 
I honestly don't see how that could have been anything other than a red. If the ball was within 15 feet then maybe, just maybe, you could justify a yellow.

The FIFA interpretation is based on whether the referee thinks that the foul is careless, reckless or using excessive force:
FIFA said:
'Careless' means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless

'Reckless' means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned

'Using excessive force' means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

None of that should take away anything from the reaction of the Chesterfield player, which was frankly embarrassing. Still, he'd say that it got what he was after.

Higdon should never have let his frustration get the better of him. Given our goalscoring issues it's frankly ridiculous that he went in for that tackle - shades of Beattie at Exeter in 2012.
 
Higdon should never have let his frustration get the better of him. Given our goalscoring issues it's frankly ridiculous that he went in for that tackle - shades of Beattie at Exeter in 2012.

Indeed - had a perfect view from the halfway line of that one at St James's Park and it was just a ridiculous one, though different in that there had been absolutely no shred of provocation in that match. Was furious at the time given our striker shortages.

Sort of reminds me of the Doyle idiosy vs Fulham - a foul on him hadn't been given, seconds later he decided to vent his frustrations with a reckless challenge. Makes the decision for him to captain the side the first game that extra bit odder.
 
Indeed - had a perfect view from the halfway line of that one at St James's Park and it was just a ridiculous one, though different in that there had been absolutely no shred of provocation in that match. Was furious at the time given our striker shortages.

Sort of reminds me of the Doyle idiosy vs Fulham - a foul on him hadn't been given, seconds later he decided to vent his frustrations with a reckless challenge. Makes the decision for him to captain the side the first game that extra bit odder.
Nearly as odd as putting Mcarthy straight in Saturday
 

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