'He's a pig'

[SwissBlade]

If they gave it me all back I could find out.

Why not find out the cost of a cruise liner first and then work out how much you've earnt in your esteemed working life, then see if it comes close. I'm guessing that your refund would only reach into the thousands... thats some cruiseliner

 

[Slim Man]

Yet another demonstration of a pointless post.

Our season tickets over the years where we have suffered disappointed would only amount to a small yacht.

In all seriousness. If you want glory - disappear and support PSG (as there is no other competition in the French league) or maybe pick one of the two Spanish giants where you will only get a bit of disappointment thrown in (for the good old days) when they only win someone 4-0 rather than 6-0.

This is Sheffield United - be prepared for the downs that come with the rare ups.

Id take a small yacht.
I don't want glory, I want some sort of success that's all. Or even just giving 100% for 90 minutes will do.

Hell, I'll take a 1-0 against Rochdale...

 

[Blademan89]

I can't understand a word you're on about. So what have I said that's meant to have been so wrong? If Scougall played 90 minutes for us all season we would get relegated.

I've been to every game this season you fucking wally. I apologise for not having any bias towards ex wendies and speaking the truth about our shit players.

Slagging of Sougall after a couple of bit part appearances (one of which was alright the other, today wasn't much cop) for one.

The second is making Clarke appear to be a Demi-God.
I, like you, have been to all games this season. So you will also have seen the numerous sitters Clarke has missed?
Maybe is off the pace, still settling in, but as it stands he has not been our best player at all.

Fleck has a far better chance of being our best player so far (today aside as no one was stand out) over Clarke.

Saying playing Sougall for 90 mins over the season just goes to show you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, as someone on here has already said a few times. When he first came and played for us, he didn't relegate us did he?
Did he relegate us last season? The season before?

Stupid notion that a midfield player will relegate us if he plays 90 mins of every match. Again shows your lack of credibility in your posts.

Speak the truth on shit players......? Why say Long needs competition when in truth he needs replacing?

Come back when your posts actually have some sense in them.

As I can see from other people's posts, I'm not the only one to have picked up on the stupidity of some of your comments.

 

[SwissBlade]

Errrrm, what? So you'd give Scougall a 4 year deal? I'm lost.

Are you on crack? Where did i say that. Silly post.

Its quite simple, give the side more than 2 games, ive said for many many years, look after 10 games and make an objective review of progress. Quite how you managed to ascertain that i was suggesting offering 4 year deals to players is beyond me, but then its beyond you too and you thought it up...

 

[Clarkey87]

Id take a small yacht.
I don't want glory, I want some sort of success that's all. Or even just giving 100% for 90 minutes will do.

Hell, I'll take a 1-0 against Rochdale...

I think after today we'd all have taken 1-0 over Rochdale.

I'd take 1-0 over bottom of the league Southend if it means recoding our first win.

That's your first post I agree with you.
So you do make a post with some sense after all!!

 

[SwissBlade]

Id take a small yacht.
I don't want glory, I want some sort of success that's all. Or even just giving 100% for 90 minutes will do.

Hell, I'll take a 1-0 against Rochdale...

Ok so in the space of about 10 minutes you've gone from having spent hundreds of thousands on being a Blade to narrowing your estimate down to perhaps tens of thousands. Give it an hour and you'll be happy with a lilo and a draw...

 

[alcoblade]

2 league games, well done you guys

It's not two league games to assess Clough's players who, after Adams, are to a man just not good enough.

UTB

 

[Clarkey87]

Ok so in the space of about 10 minutes you've gone from having spent hundreds of thousands on being a Blade to narrowing your estimate down to perhaps tens of thousands. Give it an hour and you'll be happy with a lilo and a draw...

Haha I like that one.

 

[SwissBlade]

It's not two league games to assess Clough's players who, after Adams, are to a man just not good enough.

UTB

True to an extent, but i wasn't responding to that, so keep it in context, i was responding to the OP's above that post.

 

[Clarkey87]

It's not two league games to assess Clough's players who, after Adams, are to a man just not good enough.

UTB

In that case, why have we still got long??

 

[Slim Man]

Ok so in the space of about 10 minutes you've gone from having spent hundreds of thousands on being a Blade to narrowing your estimate down to perhaps tens of thousands. Give it an hour and you'll be happy with a lilo and a draw...

I'd be happy enough with that anyway...

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

He did no worse than anyone else and was a damn sight better than Done, Duffy, Fleck and Basham today. As has been stated, he looked decent when he came on the other night.

For someone to pick him out for criticism today, I'd have to question their judgement.

Fleck, shades of Britton, ball flying over his head constantly. To be fair though, our midfield totally out battled again.

 

[Latters]

What did he do with the ball? I genuinely cannot recall him having ANY positive impact. He certainly isn't a winger and doesn't have any impact playing centrally either.

A bit of direct running and a few passes to our players. More than a lot of others on the pitch. There was one point where he played a pass to Clarke on the edge of the area and if Clarke had have read the fact it was meant to be a one-two, Scougs would have been through on goal. Instead Clarke turned away and, I think, lost the ball.

Whilst I'm not making him out to be our saviour, Scougall offers some pace, agility, direct running, decent close control and reasonable passing. He's even not afraid to have a shot. All attributes we're lacking at the moment; so, until we sign some more players, I'd give him a chance in the first team.

 

[Slim Man]

Are you on crack? Where did i say that. Silly post.

Its quite simple, give the side more than 2 games, ive said for many many years, look after 10 games and make an objective review of progress. Quite how you managed to ascertain that i was suggesting offering 4 year deals to players is beyond me, but then its beyond you too and you thought it up...

Sarcasm goes a long way on the Internet.
Scougall has made no progress in 3 years, what difference is 7 more games going to make?

 

[Blademan89]

In that case, why have we still got long??

That's true. Well said.

Long has had many of opportunities to prove himself, which he hasn't done.

He is a half decent shot stopper, but makes far too many mistakes, and can NOT command his area.

......And when it comes to a floating ball in his box, he doesn't know if to have a shit, shave or shower.

 

[Marcus Aurelias]

And I have more chance of seeing the Queens tits than I have of seeing Clarke n Sharp forming an effective partnership.

Give it 10 games, come back to me, and tell me I was wrong

Lizzie's just texted - "Tell that Dronnie to fuck waiting 10 games. Tell him to pop round Tuesday when Phil's out and tell him not to forget his specs."

 

[bartman]

Done on the wing.

*slaps palm onto forehead

Done was on the left of a narrow 4-3-3 and wasn't playing as a winger. However no matter what position he plays he should be able to con pass a ball to his own player and not run around like a headless chicken. He would have been off after 20 minutes for me

 

[grafikhaus]

I've no problem with that summary, i can't argue with it as i wasn't there. However, like i said, 2 games.

Yes its 2 games for Rochdale and agreed, theyre not going to be the top team in the division (based upon previous seasons), but we need to allow our side the chance to gel.

Make no mistake, a nervy side like ours, having lost two games, won't have been helped conceding a daft goal like that, but we really need to put it into perspective.

A good, reasoned response as ever, Swiss. (are you drunk? )

I'd agree with the side being virtual strangers, but surely a lot of teams find themselves in that position at the start of a season. Maybe we've rushed too many new 'uns in too soon?

And why should United be nervy? Surely CW has drummed into the team the need to turn it into 'Fortress Bramall Lane'? Another magnificent crowd (thought there were a few more than 19k TBH), 500 Rochdale fans, a perfect pitch what more do these players want? True, the crowd were quiet for most of the first half (and the sarcastic cheers for Long when he took a loose ball just after their goal. What do these morons think that achieves?). When we had a semi-serious attempt early in the 2nd half, the crowd (esp. the kop) got fired up. But it's 'feed one to feed the other'. We've had nothing to cheer about for too long, and the numbers still turning up are incredible.

What seriously worries me about today is where do we go next? I was watching Mr. McCabe and he must be tearing his hair out. What more can he do? He's changed the manager and backroom staff, backed the new manager with the funds for eight (so far) new players and he has to watch a performance like today's. It's not him who decides who to bring in, formulates the tactics, ensures fitness levels or get the team to do the basics like occasionally putting a decent fucking cross in.

 

[SwissBlade]

Sarcasm goes a long way on the Internet.
Scougall has made no progress in 3 years, what difference is 7 more games going to make?

Well I know Wilder is a Blade and watched us a little bit over the years, but he had another job over that last 3 years of which you speak. So perhaps in those 7 games (by the way 10 games isn't cast in stone, its a reasonable milestone as it represents over 1/5 of a season which i like to gauge progress on) Wilder, as his manager might start to see where a player (and this isn't specific to Scougall) can fit into the side. Perhaps he will, perhaps he won't.

People moaned that Butler didn't get a chance under Clough, others even believed that the exiled Collins deserved his chance under Adkins. Perhaps Wilder should be allowed the chance to assess his side himself.

Lets get this right, Wilder has cleared out a lot and brought in a few this summer. The players he has may have been signed by previous managers, but they are his side now and as such he has to assess them for his needs.

 

[blade67]

Fair enough mate, misinterpreted. It's not even like Clarke's flick ons have been into bad positions they've been exactly where you'd expect.

fwiw, danny, I thought Clarke did all you can expect of a target man today.

A few need to get tighter to him and feed off them. We all slagged Sammon off for not winning headers last season. Clarke comes in, shows us how it's done and we just slag him off regardless. Bizarre.

 

[SwissBlade]

A good, reasoned response as ever, Swiss. (are you drunk? )

I'd agree with the side being virtual strangers, but surely a lot of teams find themselves in that position at the start of a season. Maybe we've rushed too many new 'uns in too soon?

And why should United be nervy? Surely CW has drummed into the team the need to turn it into 'Fortress Bramall Lane'? Another magnificent crowd (thought there were a few more than 19k TBH), 500 Rochdale fans, a perfect pitch what more do these players want? True, the crowd were quiet for most of the first half (and the sarcastic cheers for long when he took a loose ball just after their goal. What do these morons think that achieves?). When we had a semi-serious attempt early in the 2nd half, the crown (esp. the kop) got fired up. But it's 'feed one to feed the other'. We've had nothing to cheer about for too long, and the numbers still turning up are incredible.

What seriously worries me about today is where do we go next? I was watching Mr. McCabe and he must be tearing his hair out. What more can he do? He's changed the manager and backroom staff, backed the new manager with the funds for eight (so far) new players and he has to watch a performance like today's. It's not him who decides who to bring in, formulates the tactics, ensures fitness levels or get the team to do the basics like occasionally putting a decent fucking cross in.

Until we turn a corner, Uniteds players will be nervy. We lost two games in the week, so the confidence won't be high.

Something that we're not used to at the lane is patience. I listened to the first half whilst i was at work and i saw the shoutbox implosion as Long conceded. It was clearly audible after the goal that the crowd ironically cheered Long receiving the ball straight after the goal.

The fortress Bramall Lane will take a while to build, stick with it. Players will make mistakes, let them. Players will take time to find their role. Let them. Wilder may get tactics wrong with the players he has. It'll take more than a couple of games.

As for McCabe, best thing he can do is relax. Him and the prince have brought in Wilder, sit back and let him do his job.

 

[LenTednTony]

Leon Clarke is wank.

Calvin Andrew was miles better today.

There i said it. Totally and completely ineffective today, as were our prehistoric tactics.

UTB

Ps was it lost on anyone else that the ONE AND ONLY time we managed to combine quality movement with an excellent ball PLAYED IN TO FEET resulted in our goal ?

Totally agree Db. Clarke is not good as I said on another thread. I alao think that Scougs is an ok squad player. Bash and Brayford are not playing badly either. Some of the rhetoruc is ott for all except, I am sorry, but Long. Simple catch punched and save spilled. Although he made a couple of good saves I wonder if he will ever turn the corner. Having said that, he did it on our day of tribute to John Hope who saw us to promotion and yet, was known to drop a couple of rickets on the way!

 

[Rodley]

Until we turn a corner, Uniteds players will be nervy. We lost two games in the week, so the confidence won't be high.

Something that we're not used to at the lane is patience. I listened to the first half whilst i was at work and i saw the shoutbox implosion as Long conceded. It was clearly audible after the goal that the crowd ironically cheered Long receiving the ball straight after the goal.

The fortress Bramall Lane will take a while to build, stick with it. Players will make mistakes, let them. Players will take time to find their role. Let them. Wilder may get tactics wrong with the players he has. It'll take more than a couple of games.

As for McCabe, best thing he can do is relax. Him and the prince have brought in Wilder, sit back and let him do his job.

 

[Blademan89]

fwiw, danny, I thought Clarke did all you can expect of a target man today.

A few need to get tighter to him and feed off them. We all slagged Sammon off for not winning headers last season. Clarke comes in, shows us how it's done and we just slag him off regardless. Bizarre.

No one is slagging clarke off, so get that right from the start. What people are saying is the fact that Clarke has missed more than a fair few sitters in the games he has played in. This given that he comes with the reputation of goal scoring.

I think you miss the main point in the OP. He isn't our best player and you can't say that he is based on the performances by the team so far.
Fleck certainly is in with a shout for that (despite going missing a bit today).

 

[SwissBlade]

Totally agree Db. Clarke is not good as I said on another thread. I alao think that Scougs is an ok squad player. Bash and Brayford are not playing badly either. Some of the rhetoruc is ott for all except, I am sorry, but Long. Simple catch punched and save spilled. Although he made a couple of good saves I wonder if he will ever turn the corner. Having said that, he did it on our day of tribute to John Hope who saw us to promotion and yet, was known to drop a couple of rickets on the way!

This week i've heard:
Sharp is not good enough - 20 goals last season
Clarke not good enough - 19 goals last season

 

[blade67]

No one is slagging clarke off, so get that right from the start. What people are saying is the fact that Clarke has missed more than a fair few sitters in the games he has played in. This given that he comes with the reputation of goal scoring.

I think you miss the main point in the OP. He isn't our best player and you can't say that he is based on the performances by the team so far.
Fleck certainly is in with a shout for that (despite going missing a bit today).

Plenty are slagging Clarke off actually. One post starts "Clarke is wank" so you must be blind if you can't see that. I think he's also been described as lazy by others.

I can see a case for him being our best player today. He's not had much competition has he?

I thought he did a decent job of a target man, it's not his fault that the midfield can't find any space so the centre halfs can only lump it forward. Fleck may have been great in other games but he was part of a midfield that got over run today.

Clarke has played three games and got 1 goal, the same as our other "star" striker. In my experience of watching football for many years, strikers who miss a few tend to score a few also over the season. It's the ones who never seem to get chances you have to worry about

 

[Linz]

Wind your necks in, the lot of you.

Infractions given.

I see my plea for constructive and reasoned debate has bypassed a few of you.

 

[Slim Man]

This week i've heard:
Sharp is not good enough - 20 goals last season
Clarke not good enough - 19 goals last season

I'm sure we can both agree that that is absolute bollocks. Can't believe people are saying that about those two.

 

[PeteBlade]

Done was on the left of a narrow 4-3-3 and wasn't playing as a winger. However no matter what position he plays he should be able to con pass a ball to his own player and not run around like a headless chicken. He would have been off after 20 minutes for me

We bought him as a striker. He scored goals for his previous team as a striker. He scored goals for us as a striker.

He's not played up front since and we're all frustrated that he's not playing well.

Bemused.

 

[Blademan89]

Plenty are slagging Clarke off actually. One post starts "Clarke is wank" so you must be blind if you can't see that. I think he's also been described as lazy by others.

I can see a case for him being our best player today. He's not had much competition has he?

I thought he did a decent job of a target man, it's not his fault that the midfield can't find any space so the centre halfs can only lump it forward. Fleck may have been great in other games but he was part of a midfield that got over run today.

Clarke has played three games and got 1 goal, the same as our other "star" striker. In my experience of watching football for many years, strikers who miss a few tend to score a few also over the season. It's the ones who never seem to get chances you have to worry about

Get your facts right the person who mentioned the word lazy said that he is either still settling in, not quite fit enough fitness yet or lazy. Only time will tell on that front.

Not many would be up for the title of best player today. It was poor on all fronts - tactically and on the pitch.

The "star striker" you elude to has been far from it this season. From his bit part sub appearances McNulty has shown more so far than Sharp.

It's going to be a long season so only time will tell on what we have so far.
But as it stands, Wilder has a much bigger job on his hands than he may have thought when he took the job.