I'll treat your reply with respect and see what you make of it Brownie.
No to both, thankfully for us fans our manager has lifted our squad well above both those possibilities, at least for the forseeable future.
I squeezed in the comment on Whitehouse rather than start a new thread. It didn't quite fit the thread topic but I'd just read of his latest goal at Lincoln and wanted to draw attention to him. You will recall he was the captain of the equal best youth team we've had while we've been watching our club these past 60 years. You will recall that he was one of the standout playres in our team that season, along with Maguire, Long, Kennedy, Slew. You may not recall the level they reached that season and that the standout players for Man Utd in the final were Pogba, Lingard, Ravel Morrison, Will Keane. That's how good they were and how good Whitehouse's team was.
Among those 8 players mentioned are such dramatic stories of success and failure, joy and tragedy, demons and stardust. It's a fine line Brownie, Elliott is still only 24 and free from injury these days. Yes he was that good in 2011 and yes he is a leader. If he does earn the right to play for us again in the future then nobody would be more delighted than me, especially if it's in the Premier League. Reed too.
What do you think?