CONFIRMED Harry Clarke loaned until the end of the season

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Working Class Hero said:
Made even worse by the fact that we had arguably the best right back in the league, and sold him to our main rivals.

If we'd told Leeds to fuck off that might have been the couple of points swing that got us promoted.
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Have you a memory problem?

Bogle has similarities to Sereki but he’s not as athletic. Bogle was good for us in the Championship and looked good going forward but in defence he always struggled. He was a big flop in the PL and looked out of his depth, altho all the defence was poor.

Getting 6 million for him was a great deal for us for someone near the end of their contract. Also had doubts about Bogles mentality, when the going got tough his head dropped and he lost interest.
 
No problem with the Bogle fee for me, it's the selling him to Leeds bit

It's bad luck that he's actually stayed fit all season for the first time ever but we probably should have known that would happen....

I'm sure we could have found another taker for him, maybe just a slightly smaller fee

Why we signed Gilchrist I don't know. I assumed it meant we'd be playing with a back 3, with him RCB. It was indeed the only thing that would have made sense. We should have just signed a solid, reliable round peg round hole RB like Jonjo Kenny. Seriki was already factored in as the attacking option (direct Bogle replacement) to a greater extent than we realised
 
Sheffsteel said:
Have you a memory problem?

Bogle has similarities to Sereki but he’s not as athletic. Bogle was good for us in the Championship and looked good going forward but in defence he always struggled. He was a big flop in the PL and looked out of his depth, altho all the defence was poor.

Getting 6 million for him was a great deal for us for someone near the end of their contract. Also had doubts about Bogles mentality, when the going got tough his head dropped and he lost interest.
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Not looking such a great deal now.
Most of our players were out of their depth in the Premiership, and not surprised his head dropped last season. It dosent seem to have dropped this season.
Personally I think he's been the difference between us and Leeds if we had kept him i think we would have won the league.
We have really struggled at right back this season and we've missed his goals and assist's, I think he's hardly missed a game as well.
What ever league we are in next season that position needs to be priority, unfortunately none of the ones we have played there this season look remotely good enough.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Have you a memory problem?

Bogle has similarities to Sereki but he’s not as athletic. Bogle was good for us in the Championship and looked good going forward but in defence he always struggled. He was a big flop in the PL and looked out of his depth, altho all the defence was poor.

Getting 6 million for him was a great deal for us for someone near the end of their contract. Also had doubts about Bogles mentality, when the going got tough his head dropped and he lost interest.
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You think selling your right back to your promotion rivals, when you don't have another one as good is a great deal?

£6m might have been a great deal if we'd sold him to a mid-table side after we'd replaced him, but that's not what happened.

We haven't had a proper right back all season and that's obviously cost us points.
 
Working Class Hero said:
You think selling your right back to your promotion rivals, when you don't have another one as good is a great deal?

£6m might have been a great deal if we'd sold him to a mid-table side after we'd replaced him, but that's not what happened.

We haven't had a proper right back all season and that's obviously cost us points.
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Bit revisionist, we didn't want to sell him he demanded to go and given his injury record and his half arsed attitude in his time here it was the right decision

Rewriting history won't change those facts
 
Frank the tank said:
Bit revisionist, we didn't want to sell him he demanded to go and given his injury record and his half arsed attitude in his time here it was the right decision

Rewriting history won't change those facts
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Maybe so, but I was responding to a post stating that RB has been a problem all season, and however you dress it up, that looks worse when we sold one that's better than anyone who's played there for us all season.
 
Working Class Hero said:
Maybe so, but I was responding to a post stating that RB has been a problem all season, and however you dress it up, that looks worse when we sold one that's better than anyone who's played there for us all season.
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If you assume keeping him would have Improved the situation which it probably wouldn't give the historical evidence
 
FTPE said:
It paid for Burrows and more importantly Cooper. With Wes still in the net we don't even make the playoffs let alone push for autos.
The 'deal' is irrelevant though, as he wanted to leave.
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I know he wanted to leave.
I was just pointing out to the original poster that it wasn't the great deal he made out it was.
 
loyalblade95 said:
Inconsistent and missed a chunk of games at a crucial time of the season, Clarke is just one of those signings we got unlucky with and it didn't help that Gilchrist was injured at the same time.

RB and RW have been problem positions for us all season (everywhere else we've been fine), as out of 4 RB's (Seriki, Gilchrist, Clarke and Choudhury), not one them has managed to hold the position all season, either through form or injury.

Same with BBD, Brooks and JRS at RW, none of them have managed to make the position their own this season.

In contrast, Cooper, Hamer, Campbell, Burrows, Peck, Souttar (when he has here) and Anel have all made their respective positions their own this season.

2 positions that will definitely need addressing in the summer.
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Unlucky?

Stfu, this was a disgraceful signing, it's on Wilder and he should be sacked now Clarke's out injured.
 
AWetFlannel said:
Unlucky?

Stfu, this was a disgraceful signing, it's on Wilder and he should be sacked now Clarke's out injured.
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He was fit when he arrived. Injuries happen, surely. I don't see how it's a disgraceful signing.
 

Booker4 said:
He was fit when he arrived. Injuries happen, surely. I don't see how it's a disgraceful signing.
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But Wilder must have known he had feet that could get injured, right? Probably forced him to play through the injury that made it worse as well.

Whatever way you look at it, Wilder is 100% to blame and needs to go.
 
AWetFlannel said:
But Wilder must have known he had feet that could get injured, right? Probably forced him to play through the injury that made it worse as well.

Whatever way you look at it, Wilder is 100% to blame and needs to go.
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Wow. Delusional. So one bad signing is enough to sack a manager. Gutless
 
Well that was a complete waste of time for everyone involved.

Fuckety Bye, Harry.
 
Danetheblade said:
Wait.. Clarkes injured again?
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Don't think he's injured right now, point I made in my initial post was that he'd missed quite a few games with injury, Gilchrist was injured and went back to Chelsea for treatment around the same time.

Pretty sure Gilchrist is back from injury now as well, but one of either him or Clarke have to miss out due to the loan limit.
 
loyalblade95 said:
Don't think he's injured right now, point I made in my initial post was that he'd missed quite a few games with injury, Gilchrist was injured and went back to Chelsea for treatment around the same time.

Pretty sure Gilchrist is back from injury now as well, but one of either him or Clarke have to miss out due to the loan limit.
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According to CW in Burnley presser (haha) Clarke is back at Ipswich injured out for the rest of the season.
 
The Bear said:
According to CW in Burnley presser (haha) Clarke is back at Ipswich injured out for the rest of the season.
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Ah right, I've not seen his presser.

Only injury team news I saw on Sky concerned Arblaster and Shackleton.
 
So Jan consisted of:

Clarke: Did little now injured
Choudhury: Very hit & miss so far
Holding: Barely had a kick for whatever reason
BBD: Hit & miss but I would say a net positive all in all
Cannon: Absolute disaster


Not a great way to start things with the new owners money is it?
 
paidsy said:
So Jan consisted of:

Clarke: Did little now injured
Choudhury: Very hit & miss so far
Holding: Barely had a kick for whatever reason
BBD: Hit & miss but I would say a net positive all in all
Cannon: Absolute disaster


Not a great way to start things with the new owners money is it?
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Cannon showed he has goals in him. A poacher and a finisher if we play to his strength. Needs to play off a target man. I'd argue BBD a net negative. We were a better team before the Xmas break. The injuries to Arblaster and Souttar proved critical and what happened to Brooks? He seems to have just disappeared. The January window wasn't that great in retrospect. Souza's form has also dipped dramatically not helped by injury of course. There's a loss of belief and flatness about our play. It's hard to see how we turn it around.
 
Camden Blade said:
Cannon showed he has goals in him. A poacher and a finisher if we play to his strength. Needs to play off a target man. I'd argue BBD a net negative. We were a better team before the Xmas break. The injuries to Arblaster and Souttar proved critical and what happened to Brooks? He seems to have just disappeared. The January window wasn't that great in retrospect. Souza's form has also dipped dramatically not helped by injury of course. There's a loss of belief and flatness about our play. It's hard to see how we turn it around.
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Happy for Cannon today. BBD is now becoming incredibly wasteful.
 
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