"Happy with what we've got…"

[Putney Blade]

When talking about strikers, NC remarks "am happy with what we have got…". But what you have got NC won't get you promotion. Highest win so far is 2-1. Not surprising the top 3 - Bristol Titty, Peterborough, MK Dons average far more than our 1 goal per game average. They have goal scorers throughout. How can he be happy, thought be made an unsuccessful bid for a striker? There is simply not enough goal scorers in the current team to win promotion. Really difficult to see Higdon, McNulty and of course the mighty Porter getting into double figures - between them!

Smell the coffee Nigel….

 

[cahill]

We won today

 

[SwissBlade]

Clean sheets are vital

 

[Harry's Game]

Patience.. There is a really good striker signing in October from what I have heard, his name escapes me at the moment

 

[moDtheGod]

He's hardly going to say that what he has is not good enough, is he? Of course he'll want another striker deep down, but since he didn't get one, he has to make out like he's happy. Do you understand the concept of people management? Imagine your boss issued a press release saying that his staff weren't good enough and that he wanted replacements. How would you feel? Motivated? Happy? Dear me.

 

[Rollerball]

Someone please tell me, how after being unbeaten in 5, beaten 1 champion candidate, drew with another and beaten a free scoring team,and got a clean sheet can anyone really knock clough and the blades?
Yes not fantastic but saying that if we can play mediocre football and still get a win, why complain?
As for scoring throughout the team haven't we already had 6or more different scorers?
I'm if not happy with how things are going, satisfied we are progressing in the right direction.
UTB

 

[moDtheGod]

I'm not the first to say it by any means, but Charlton won this division by doing exactly what we did today. They weren't often great to watch but they ground out countless single goal victories, often from 1-0 wins, often courtesy of penalties and free-kicks. Who cares? Three points is three points.

 

[alcoblade]

When talking about strikers, NC remarks "am happy with what we have got…". But what you have got NC won't get you promotion. Highest win so far is 2-1. Not surprising the top 3 - Bristol Titty, Peterborough, MK Dons average far more than our 1 goal per game average. They have goal scorers throughout. How can he be happy, thought be made an unsuccessful bid for a striker? There is simply not enough goal scorers in the current team to win promotion. Really difficult to see Higdon, McNulty and of course the mighty Porter getting into double figures - between them!

Smell the coffee Nigel….

You should realise, you have to wait until we've lost before you make these points, when of course you'll be criticised along the lines of "where were you when we were winning".

Seriously, this is a perfectly sensible point. I really enjoyed the game today. We played some decent stuff and there are lots of positives. However, as many consistently point out, we need more strike power.

I was disappointed with Clough's statement for a microsecond, until I reminded myself that we are gambling our season on what will be a newly released convict to fire us to promotion.

Apologies to all who hate opinions that aren't wholly positive when we win, and wholly negative when we don't.

UTB

 

[Maidenhead]

When talking about strikers, NC remarks "am happy with what we have got…". But what you have got NC won't get you promotion. Highest win so far is 2-1. Not surprising the top 3 - Bristol Titty, Peterborough, MK Dons average far more than our 1 goal per game average. They have goal scorers throughout. How can he be happy, thought be made an unsuccessful bid for a striker? There is simply not enough goal scorers in the current team to win promotion. Really difficult to see Higdon, McNulty and of course the mighty Porter getting into double figures - between them!

Smell the coffee Nigel….

Or make all your plans public, the Prince can afford the price inflation on your preferred deals

 

[blade.i.am]

It's not about how many you score but whether you score more than the opposition. I'll settle for promotion Charlton style and then some serious investment when we reach the Championship.

 

[Maidenhead]

You should realise, you have to wait until we've lost before you make these points, when of course you'll be criticised along the lines of "where were you when we were winning".

Seriously, this is a perfectly sensible point. I really enjoyed the game today. We played some decent stuff and there are lots of positives. However, as many consistently point out, we need more strike power.

I was disappointed with Clough's statement for a microsecond, until I reminded myself that we are gambling our season on what will be a newly released convict to fire us to promotion.

Apologies to all who hate opinions that aren't wholly positive when we win, and wholly negative when we don't.

UTB

I'm really glad that I wasn't the only one that enjoyed the game today

 

[alcoblade]

It's not about how many you score but whether you score more than the opposition. I'll settle for promotion Charlton style and then some serious investment when we reach the Championship.

A separate point, but do you really believe that we're saving all our money until we're promoted. Has any cub, in history, done that?

My hunch is that there will be next to no investment, and they should just come out and say so.

UTB

 

[blader]

I'm not the first to say it by any means, but Charlton won this division by doing exactly what we did today. They weren't often great to watch but they ground out countless single goal victories, often from 1-0 wins, often courtesy of penalties and free-kicks. Who cares? Three points is three points.

The only thing I'll contribute to this is that charlton won 8 games 1-0 that season, but only 2 at home. Getting 1-0 away from home is the mark of champions, not so sure winning all your home games is.

In this mystical '1-0' season everyone referrs to, charlton still managed 82 goals! Wolves scored 89 last season and were considered free-scoring, so put in context, charlton weren't quite as non-scoring as is often made out.

Not saying it can't be done on 1-0s, but charlton weren't quite the side that is often quoted on here to prove you can go up without scoring many.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Maybe I was listening to a different Nigel Clough, but while he did say he was happy with what he has and that nothing was imminent on the loan front, I'm fairly sure he also said that if the right player (I.e. one that is better than what we have currently) does become available, we would try and get them in.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

After 6 games last season we had 4 points a goal difference of - 6 and had only scored 5 goals as well , and we where on our way out of this fucking league ,
The manager knows and has said as much what we need
The last time he who shall not be named came good we had to wait two and a half years then as well ,
As I said before 1-0 for me till May .
UTB .

 

[mattbianco1]

Clean sheets are vital

Yes but why didn't we score 15 ?

 

[Darthblade]

When talking about strikers, NC remarks "am happy with what we have got…". But what you have got NC won't get you promotion. Highest win so far is 2-1. Not surprising the top 3 - Bristol Titty, Peterborough, MK Dons average far more than our 1 goal per game average. They have goal scorers throughout. How can he be happy, thought be made an unsuccessful bid for a striker? There is simply not enough goal scorers in the current team to win promotion. Really difficult to see Higdon, McNulty and of course the mighty Porter getting into double figures - between them!

Smell the coffee Nigel….

Statistics speak for themselves ....... at this point in time our strikers are as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest ! That doesn't win promotion. If they're going to find the scoring touch they need to do it VERY soon.
UTB & FTP

 

[mattbianco1]

I'm gonna invent a capsule which enables me to hear the crowd from afar but drowns out all localised moaning and groaning around me.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

I'm gonna invent a capsule which enables me to hear the crowd from afar but drowns out all localised moaning and groaning around me.

Thought that was about 8 pints Matt

 

[moDtheGod]

Not saying it can't be done on 1-0s, but charlton weren't quite the side that is often quoted on here to prove you can go up without scoring many.

Fair point, but we've played 6 games. We might win our next five games by 2-0 or 3-0 mightn't we? It's incredibly early to judge.

I will keep taking 1-0s while the side are still gelling. How many started today that were the mainstay of our turnaround in form last season? Baxter, Murphy, Doyle, Howard, Collins... I'm struggling now. Isn't that over half the team?

Don't forget too that in those three games we've played Bristol City (top), Posh (2nd), PNE widely tipped to go up... oh, and we put a Premier League side out of the cup. I don't see the need for the doom and gloom just yet.

 

[blader]

Fair point, but we've played 6 games. We might win our next five games by 2-0 or 3-0 mightn't we? It's incredibly early to judge.

I will keep taking 1-0s while the side are still gelling. How many started today that were the mainstay of our turnaround in form last season? Baxter, Murphy, Doyle, Howard, Collins... I'm struggling now. Isn't that over half the team?

Don't forget too that in those three games we've played Bristol City (top), Posh (2nd), PNE widely tipped to go up... oh, and we put a Premier League side out of the cup. I don't see the need for the doom and gloom just yet.

Oh no, as I said, I wouldn't deny you can go up on 1-0s. My point is mainly to crush the common opinion that Charlton went up on the back of winning 1-0 every week when in fact they scored quite a lot of goals so aren't a great example.

However, history says the absolute minimum goals you need for automatic promotion is 65, and we seem a long way off that currently.

 

[moDtheGod]

Oh no, as I said, I wouldn't deny you can go up on 1-0s. My point is mainly to crush the common opinion that Charlton went up on the back of winning 1-0 every week when in fact they scored quite a lot of goals so aren't a great example.

However, history says the absolute minimum goals you need for automatic promotion is 65, and we seem a long way off that currently.

But I'm saying that we could still be just like Charlton. Grinding out some 1-0 wins when we need to (i.e. against tough sides and when not playing that well) but we might still do our fair share of thrashing in the future.

 

[lepton blade]

For me if we can keep getting results like today and the one over Crawley, winning while not playing at your highest level, is a pretty good habit to form. Imagine todays game under Weir, we'd have been looking at a 1-0 home defeat. I feel that today was a noticeable improvement on the last home game. Also am I the only one that thinks McNulty did well when he came on?

 

[Rollerball]

Oh no, as I said, I wouldn't deny you can go up on 1-0s. My point is mainly to crush the common opinion that Charlton went up on the back of winning 1-0 every week when in fact they scored quite a lot of goals so aren't a great example.

However, history says the absolute minimum goals you need for automatic promotion is 65, and we seem a long way off that currently.

History? What utter bollox a team can conceivably go up scoring 30 or even less if those are all 1-0 wins and that's for a 90 point season, less than half of your "absolute minimum" needed.
Look how many we scored the season Wendy pipped us, we have proven its wins and points that ultimately count not the amount you score, we were 5/6 highest goal scorers in Europe not just England and what did scoring loads of goals get us?
Another disappointing trip to the play offs.
So thanks for the history lesson blader but ill take 30+ 1-0 scraped wins to get out of this league than score "absolute minimum of 65" and still end up in this god forsaken shit hole of a league.

 

[blader]

But I'm saying that we could still be just like Charlton. Grinding out some 1-0 wins when we need to (i.e. against tough sides and when not playing that well) but we might still do our fair share of thrashing in the future.

Yes we could. But look at their season, the majority of those 1-0 wins came at the 'business end' of the season. Early on they were extremely free-scoring. However, we scored very few last season and the strikers we've added couldn't even make the first 11 today, so it's hard to see that we have added 20+ extra required

 

[blader]

History? What utter bollox a team can conceivably go up scoring 30 or even less if those are all 1-0 wins and that's for a 90 point season, less than half of your "absolute minimum" needed.
Look how many we scored the season Wendy pipped us, we have proven its wins and points that ultimately count not the amount you score, we were 5/6 highest goal scorers in Europe not just England and what did scoring loads of goals get us?
Another disappointing trip to the play offs.
So thanks for the history lesson blader but ill take 30+ 1-0 scraped wins to get out of this league than score "absolute minimum of 65" and still end up in this god forsaken shit hole of a league.

Utterly ridiculous response. If you think we can go up after a season of scoring 30 goals, you don't know anything about football.

We just not going to concede another goal then? What happens when the opposition score first? By my maths we'd have to score 2. The MARGIN of victory only has to be 1, but to say we only need to score 1 per game is utter nonsense.

 

[mattbianco1]

Yes we could. But look at their season, the majority of those 1-0 wins came at the 'business end' of the season. Early on they were extremely free-scoring. However, we scored very few last season and the strikers we've added couldn't even make the first 11 today, so it's hard to see that we have added 20+ extra required

Nothing in the past matters. Crystal Palace were in bottom 5 at Xmas two seasons ago and are now celebrating their 2nd season in the top flight.

I know what you're trying to say and yes, we will probably need to score more and I'm sure we will but if we win 30 games 1-0 we will go up.

 

[Rollerball]

Utterly ridiculous response. If you think we can go up after a season of scoring 30 goals, you don't know anything about football.

We just not going to concede another goal then? What happens when the opposition score first? By my maths we'd have to score 2. The MARGIN of victory only has to be 1, but to say we only need to score 1 per game is utter nonsense.

You really should learn to read blader, there are 46 games in a season, what I said was we only needed to win 30 games one nil to gain automatic promotion, no where does it say we will not concede another goal, surely a literate guy such as yourself is also somewhat numerate as proven by your "absolute minimum 65 goals needed"
Which means the other 16 games we could get hammered 10-0 and STILL gain auto promotion where as, as I pointed out scoring 90+ goals in no guarantee of promotion or play off triumph so explain how my reply is ridiculous and yours is anything but utter inane drivel.
Seems I do have some quarter with football old boy, how about you?
For you to say its not possible, inconceivable etc, have a good old think about it and then come back, I'm magnanimous enough to accept your retraction of my lack of football knowledge

 

[Latters]

To all the people mentioning Charlton. The difference is they had Wright Phillips and that lad who took the free kicks (Jackson?) to rely on. Unless we sign a couple, I could see us getting more 0-0s than 1-0s.

Speaking of free-kicks; to say Davies is supposedly a set piece specialist, 9/10 of his set pieces are pretty crap to be blunt. I'd prefer Baxter on corner and free-kick duty.

 

[Pinchy]

A separate point, but do you really believe that we're saving all our money until we're promoted. Has any cub, in history, done that?

My hunch is that there will be next to no investment, and they should just come out and say so.

UTB

But if your hunch is wrong (and I believe it is) any such statement would be bizarre, wouldn't it?