Outgoing? Hamer

[bertieblade]

I personally would get rid.
We could hopefully raise £5m and take his high wages off the books .
When he is good he is v good , but too much of a liability giving the ball away in dangerous positions, gets keyed for stupid fouls in ridiculous areas of the pitch which do not necessitate a foul

 

[CPB]

Hes gone backwards last few seasons Half arsed and booked almost every game get shut

Thought he was out best player and was voted the leagues best player in 24-25.

Last season his form was not as good.... yet he still ended up with the most assists in the entire division.

 

[247Blade]

All shit in the same pot the phrase or piss in it .!

 

[Nedski]

An this says it all about where we are right now. We should be happy with a mediocre, CBA attitude.

The point is that he can actually get away with it because he's good enough to. Would you rather get a Monty headless chicken type, or a Hamer who actually makes football enjoyable?

He needs the defensive responsibilities taken off him though. I've said it before but we waited a long time for someone to play the Duffy role, and now we have Hamer who is far better than Duffy even though Duffy was incredible for us.

He needs to play off the striker or in the middle of a 3 in 4231 but unfortunately we've just sold our best winger so I've got no idea what formation we'll be going with.

 

[Danetheblade]

The point is that he can actually get away with it because he's good enough to. Would you rather get a Monty headless chicken type, or a Hamer who actually makes football enjoyable?

He needs the defensive responsibilities taken off him though. I've said it before but we waited a long time for someone to play the Duffy role, and now we have Hamer who is far better than Duffy even though Duffy was incredible for us.

He needs to play off the striker or in the middle of a 3 in 4231 but unfortunately we've just sold our best winger so I've got no idea what formation we'll be going with.

Is he? I mean, he's the one player we have who's capable of doing the outrageous, but his fitness is shocking.

He needs to actually do his defensive duties, he's not Salah or Messi.

 

[Revolution]

Hes gone backwards last few seasons Half arsed and booked almost every game get shut

Say you don’t understand what you’re watching without saying “I don’t understand what I’m watching”.

 

[54yrblade]

The point is that he can actually get away with it because he's good enough to. Would you rather get a Monty headless chicken type, or a Hamer who actually makes football enjoyable?

He needs the defensive responsibilities taken off him though. I've said it before but we waited a long time for someone to play the Duffy role, and now we have Hamer who is far better than Duffy even though Duffy was incredible for us.

He needs to play off the striker or in the middle of a 3 in 4231 but unfortunately we've just sold our best winger so I've got no idea what formation we'll be going with.

And his fitness is woeful. A lack of personal responsibility and being accepted by the club's manager/ coaching team.

Shall we discuss 'culture'?

 

[Nedski]

Is he? I mean, he's the one player we have who's capable of doing the outrageous, but his fitness is shocking.

He needs to actually do his defensive duties, he's not Salah or Messi.

Half of the squad is unfit but Hamer seems to get called out for it more than most.

Wilder has never taken fitness and diet seriously which is why Brooks and Seriki's faces don't fit because they do take it seriously.

 

[Nedski]

And his fitness is woeful. A lack of personal responsibility and being accepted by the club's manager/ coaching team.

Shall we discuss 'culture'?

I hate the culture. We need a strong DoF to come in and basically say "Chris what the fuck is going on, we kick off in 2 hours. Peck has just rolled out of bed and Tyrese has just turned up with 4 Gregg's sausage rolls and doesn't look like he's sharing them".

 

[54yrblade]

I hate the culture. We need a strong DoF to come in and basically say "Chris what the fuck is going on, we kick off in 2 hours. Peck has just rolled out of bed and Tyrese has just turned up with 4 Gregg's sausage rolls and doesn't look like he's sharing them".

Love that!

 

[Danetheblade]

Half of the squad is unfit but Hamer seems to get called out for it more than most.

Wilder has never taken fitness and diet seriously which is why Brooks and Seriki's faces don't fit because they do take it seriously.

I think it's partly down to how obvious it is, he's often blowing out his arse after 40 minutes, and as a result of the fitness issues, he's often suspended for cynical fouls.

 

[TJ blade]

In all fairness he is our best player and deserves to be playing in the premier league

Hes not good enough to play in the prem...sorry I'll refraise that fit enough!

 

[CPB]

Half of the squad is unfit but Hamer seems to get called out for it more than most.

Wilder has never taken fitness and diet seriously which is why Brooks and Seriki's faces don't fit because they do take it seriously.

Whilst I do agree that fitness has been an issue. It's been an issue for the past 5 seasons.
And fitness did not seem to be an issue on the rise to the PL and first season back...
Which includes times when Wilder was not manager.

It was very notable in my opinion how "unfit" the squad seemed last August and September.
Under Hecky it was almost less fitness but overall conditioning. Because he focused on training at full tilt all the time the players often picked up injuries and when we had a 3 game week looked knackered in the midweek games after about 70mins. There are always a few exceptions though who can handle that level of demand.
Hecky even noticed it in the promotion season and had to pull it back a bit around the November/Dec time when players were dropping like flies.

Selles may have said he was focusing on fitness but for whatever reason alot of the squad came back in poor shape. Hamer, Campbell, Burrows, Cooper were one's that looked less conditioned.

Wilder has had 1 pre-season since being back. I really hope the fitness and conditioning is pushed this summer to help us.

Also with Brooks and Seriki it's only this season they have started to be able to play 90 mins consistently too. Before they seemed to be done by about minute 65.

 

[Hallamboy87]

Hes not good enough to play in the prem...sorry I'll refraise that fit enough!

If we were in the prem, I still wouldn't mind him coming on for the last 30 minutes though. Don't need to complete 90 mins.

 

[BrianTheBlade]

I personally would get rid.
We could hopefully raise £5m and take his high wages off the books .
When he is good he is v good , but too much of a liability giving the ball away in dangerous positions, gets keyed for stupid fouls in ridiculous areas of the pitch which do not necessitate a foul

Whats it like up on the moon ?

Cause you aint on this planet

 

[247Blade]

Is he? I mean, he's the one player we have who's capable of doing the outrageous, but his fitness is shocking.

He needs to actually do his defensive duties, he's not Salah or Messi.

Stick him in defence .... ya wouldnt get many players going round him

 

[BrianTheBlade]

I would sell Hamer and Seriki

They give the ball away and are flare players

What we need is a team of Jamie shackletons and Joe Rothwells with a sprinkling of Mark Mcguines's

 

[Tazzy]

Say you don’t understand what you’re watching without saying “I don’t understand what I’m watching”.

Tell me your happy watching a unfit player through his own fault. stand by what i say get shut

 

[bertieblade]

I may think differently if he was not in the last year of his contract but needs must

 

[Nedski]

I would sell Hamer and Seriki

They give the ball away and are flare players

What we need is a team of Jamie shackletons and Joe Rothwells with a sprinkling of Mark Mcguines's

Wilder's true stubbornness shines through with McGuiness. He is 100% a perfect Wilder signing, but because Wilder didn't sign him he got limited game time. It must have been a right struggle for him to play Bindon instead as he's another non wilder signing but he's a loan so a little more acceptable to his ego.

 

[Wards]

Sell Hamer and there is zero flair and creativity now Brooks has gone. Madness to sell him.

 

[bertieblade]

Hamer and Brooks have to be replaced but contract position dictates they leave

 

[Champagneblade]

Say you don’t understand what you’re watching without saying “I don’t understand what I’m watching”.

There is a resignation to him leaving but I do wonder if there is a way to keep him.

There is no other player on the books who can influence a game as much as Hamer.

We have to create and score otherwise the season is a write off before it has begun.

You play 3-4-2-1 and you put him and O’Hare behind Bamford.

You can cash in on anyone else.

if bids are 4-6m then I’d rather have Gus for a year than 2 players with half his ability.

If we are to make one educated gamble, I’m coming round to thinking this is it, especially as Brooks has now departed.

 

[Blademan89]

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Wilder's true stubbornness shines through with McGuiness. He is 100% a perfect Wilder signing, but because Wilder didn't sign him he got limited game time. It must have been a right struggle for him to play Bindon instead as he's another non wilder signing but he's a loan so a little more acceptable to his ego.

Or maybe it has to do with McGuinness not been very good and Bindon better than him?

Not everything has to have a narrative.

 

[Blademan89]

Tell me your happy watching a unfit player through his own fault. stand by what i say get shut

More than happy to watch a half fit hamer than a fully fit chong.

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

Wilder's true stubbornness shines through with McGuiness. He is 100% a perfect Wilder signing, but because Wilder didn't sign him he got limited game time. It must have been a right struggle for him to play Bindon instead as he's another non wilder signing but he's a loan so a little more acceptable to his ego.

There's a lot of competition these days, but this might be the most irrational anti-Wilder take yet.