Outgoing? Hamer

[SUFC Guy]

If he is going to any of the promoted teams, it will be Coventry. They can get him on a discount.

That is a more realistic option. We would need to get a sell on fee nailed down.

 

[Hallamboy87]

I'm fairly certain they have a sell on fee for him. Financially it could get complicated and I'm a tad worried we would be at a disadvantage

 

[Down the Channels]

I am sure this has been said before, but if we are only going to get £4M / £5M for him I would rather keep him and let the contract run down.
If he can help get us promoted somehow then he may want to sign another contract.
Better than spending money on large loan fees and agents fees for new arrivals.
He does need to get fitter though and cut out the petulant bookings.

 

[jt64]

I am sure this has been said before, but if we are only going to get £4M / £5M for him I would rather keep him and let the contract run down.
If he can help get us promoted somehow then he may want to sign another contract.
Better than spending money on large loan fees and agents fees for new arrivals.

a) In percentage terms, how much do you think Hamer would increase our chances of promotion compared to the situation where we sell him for the fee you quote?
b) How much more expensive do you think loan fees would be than Gamer's current wages?

 

[CPB]

If Hamer leaves I reckon it will be to go back nearer to Holland. Cause a PL club might tempt him for another crack at it.

Feel like Hull could be a hiding to nothing though. Although money talks if it's a better wage.

Stranger things have happened that he signs a new deal here. Don't quite see it happening myself but I wouldn't completely rule it out if we have enough money coming in from other sales OR new investment.

 

[TankersleyBlade]

I'm fairly certain they have a sell on fee for him. Financially it could get complicated and I'm a tad worried we would be at a disadvantage

We bought for an undisclosed fee, rumoured to be £15m. If we end up selling him for £5m ish (most estimates around here given age / contract situation) then if we have to pay a sell on I’d be sacking anyone involved n negotiating the original purchase……along with anyone who played a role in our transfer business last summer!!

 

[Keen Blade]

I am sure this has been said before, but if we are only going to get £4M / £5M for him I would rather keep him and let the contract run down.
If he can help get us promoted somehow then he may want to sign another contract.
Better than spending money on large loan fees and agents fees for new arrivals.
He does need to get fitter though and cut out the petulant bookings.

Get fitter and cut out the petulant bookings ?
Like that's ever gonna happen

 

[DifferentClass]

If he is going to any of the promoted teams, it will be Coventry. They can get him on a discount.

wIlDeR oUt BeCaUsE hE sIgNs OuR oLd PlAyErS!

Meanwhile, when Frankie boy does it:

 

[Hallamboy87]

We bought for an undisclosed fee, rumoured to be £15m. If we end up selling him for £5m ish (most estimates around here given age / contract situation) then if we have to pay a sell on I’d be sacking anyone involved n negotiating the original purchase……along with anyone who played a role in our transfer business last summer!!

We did sign him a few years ago and i think we all presumed he would leave when we got relegated and would have gone on to bigger and better things (not just kebabs). They had a sell on percentage with Gyokeres, so wouldnt surprise me with Hamer

 

[Hallamboy87]

wIlDeR oUt BeCaUsE hE sIgNs OuR oLd PlAyErS!

Meanwhile, when Frankie boy does it:

In all fairness he is our best player and deserves to be playing in the premier league

 

[Bladeloyal]

Sell ons usually are only a percentage of profit above purchase

 

[Pedro Verde]

I'm fairly certain they have a sell on fee for him. Financially it could get complicated and I'm a tad worried we would be at a disadvantage

We could always sign Lundstram

 

[finlaytheblade]

We bought for an undisclosed fee, rumoured to be £15m. If we end up selling him for £5m ish (most estimates around here given age / contract situation) then if we have to pay a sell on I’d be sacking anyone involved n negotiating the original purchase……along with anyone who played a role in our transfer business last summer!!

You only pay a sell on with a profit! We will get no where near what we paid ! So logically no sell fee.

 

[bladesmanluke]

If Hamer leaves I reckon it will be to go back nearer to Holland. Cause a PL club might tempt him for another crack at it.

Feel like Hull could be a hiding to nothing though. Although money talks if it's a better wage.

Stranger things have happened that he signs a new deal here. Don't quite see it happening myself but I wouldn't completely rule it out if we have enough money coming in from other sales OR new investment.

Hull is nearer Holland. Straight on the disco ferry

 

[Champagneblade]

Sell ons usually are only a percentage of profit above purchase

Exactly. A sell-on fee usually makes no odds if you're selling for a lower fee than you purchased.

 

[Down the Channels]

a) In percentage terms, how much do you think Hamer would increase our chances of promotion compared to the situation where we sell him for the fee you quote?
b) How much more expensive do you think loan fees would be than Gamer's current wages?

a) As a potential player of the Championship again I would say 'a little'. But fine margins and all that.
b) Probably similar numbers (inc all the costs involved). With the caveat there being that we are looking at some good premier league loans rather than something like Ogbene!

Gus knows Utd, knows Wilder and any new loan is more of a gamble.

 

[54yrblade]

In all fairness he is our best player and deserves to be playing in the premier league

Our best player was a low bar last season. He might fit a bottom end PL team but not longer a serious baller.

Other than if he fancies it during a game.

 

[mattbianco1]

We bought for an undisclosed fee, rumoured to be £15m. If we end up selling him for £5m ish (most estimates around here given age / contract situation) then if we have to pay a sell on I’d be sacking anyone involved n negotiating the original purchase……along with anyone who played a role in our transfer business last summer!!

Sell ons usually are only a percentage of profit above purchase

Thats what I was gonna say. So in theory, Coventry don't get anything as we have lost money

 

[FriethBlade]

Well if we sell Hamer after selling Brooks its going to be a joy watching sideways, sideways, sideways, backwards.... repeat

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Why would Hamer sign for a club this summer and instead get a cut of those millions ( however many) in wages for himself? Unless a premier league wage hits him in the face of course.

I wouldn't be shocked if he stays.

 

[Nick Jansky]

wIlDeR oUt BeCaUsE hE sIgNs OuR oLd PlAyErS!

Meanwhile, when Frankie boy does it:

Frankie boy hasn’t done it has he?

 

[Nedski]

From what I've seen and read, Hamer seems happy here and happy with his situation.

He's clearly never going to be the epitome of fitness but even if he's a bit overweight and not as fit as he could/should be, he's still far and away our best and most talented player while earning very good money. He could move to another club for an extra £10-20k a week but then he will most likely be forced in to changing his entire lifestyle only to end up back in the championship eating lettuce and no alcohol. Here he can do everything he wants, live the life he wants, eat and drink everything he wants, and still be adored by the majority. Ambition is overrated!

We're not going to replace Hamer for £5m we might get for him, just like we'll never replace Ndiaye or Berge for £15m apiece, we've never got close to replacing Norwood for the £2m we spent on him, and so on. If Hamer goes this summer we are heading for a few years of mid table oblivion.

 

[Torrix1889]

Well if we sell Hamer after selling Brooks its going to be a joy watching sideways, sideways, sideways, backwards.... concede

Fixed it for you.

 

[Blade58]

Hamer will go if we get a buyer who’ll pay the fee and his wage demand

The club won’t and can’t afford to let him see his contract out and walk away for nowt

 

[247Blade]

Well if we sell Hamer after selling Brooks its going to be a joy watching sideways, sideways, sideways, backwards.... repeat

Yep plenty of early leavers or non attenders .... the joys of a new season with Wilder in charge!

 

[54yrblade]

From what I've seen and read, Hamer seems happy here and happy with his situation.

He's clearly never going to be the epitome of fitness but even if he's a bit overweight and not as fit as he could/should be, he's still far and away our best and most talented player while earning very good money

An this says it all about where we are right now. We should be happy with a mediocre, CBA attitude.

 

[Dkc]

Hamer will go if we get a buyer who’ll pay the fee and his wage demand

The club won’t and can’t afford to let him see his contract out and walk away for nowt

We could offer him a new one

 

[bertieblade]

The club have offered him a new deal it is all about him signing it as an alternative to being offered more money elsewhere

 

[Tazzy]

Hes gone backwards last few seasons Half arsed and booked almost every game get shut

 

[Darren William]

Yep plenty of early leavers or non attenders .... the joys of a new season with Wilder in charge!

All shit in the same pot the phrase or piss in it .!