Outgoing? Hamer

[Maurice Maurice]

By not paying poor wages and leaving negotiations until the end when the balance of power sits with the player.

It does happen at other clubs, but let’s not pretend we aren’t repeat offenders here for it happening to our top talent.

What do you mean poor wages? 10 plus grand a week sounds pretty decent to me.

Not sure how accurate this is...

2026-27 Sheffield United Salaries and Contracts - SalaryLeaks

Sheffield United's total wage bill for the 2026-27 season is £16.3 million, the 10th-highest in the English Championship. Explore their historic payroll tables.

www.salaryleaks.com

 

[Bladesman]

Exactly. The management of it is poor given it’s a repeating pattern for top players.

And if we hoped Leeds were going to give us the same price as 12 months ago then that commercial naivety is telling.

Well Leeds thought the money could be better spent elsewhere, can't argue with it either because they did spend it elsewhere and stayed up.

Which is why I am surprised Coventry are pushing this hard for Gus especially if they are close to meeting our asking price. As I still see some of their fans want to see that money spent on someone else who is more likely to have better fitness, keep them up and have some re-sale value.

 

[KMC-1889]

So Carl Scheiber then!

That’s basically what he does, what you outlined there.

If we call him that will everyone stop suggesting this is some sort of silver bullet?

Remember that terrible season Spurs has last year -> DoF.

It’s about getting quality decision makers into the club and outing those that aren’t. Call them what you want.

I’m surprised Hoyland and Allen are both unscathed after last season’s mess.

Great.

When is Carl Scheiber getting sacked?

You can’t call out one single example of a bad DOF not working when there’s so much evidence of it working, and working well.

 

[Valley Blade]

I can’t tell you something that hasn’t happened.

I can tell you who has left with one year or less left on their deal, for a far lower price. None of which we ever really replaced.

Ndiaye
Berge
Anel
Bogle
And now, Hamer.

We also let one of our most expensive signings ever, Oli McBurnie, walk away for zero.

Hamer hasn't gone yet. We made substantial money on all of them except for Berge and McBurnie. What is it that you propose the club do, to make people sign contracts, they don't want to sign?

 

[Silent Blade]

What do you mean poor wages? 10 plus grand a week sounds pretty decent to me.

Not sure how accurate this is...

2026-27 Sheffield United Salaries and Contracts - SalaryLeaks

Sheffield United's total wage bill for the 2026-27 season is £16.3 million, the 10th-highest in the English Championship. Explore their historic payroll tables.

www.salaryleaks.com

All are estimates from a typical clickbait website

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I would support strictly adhering to a 2 year rule with contracts

Don't care who the player is. Nobody can be treated as irreplaceable, because none of them are

If they enter the last 2 years, don't want to renew, and have significant transfer value, then sell

The return on investment since 2019 has been disgraceful and can never happen again

Timing player sales is a crucial skill, and not all that difficult either

 

[Keen Blade]

Yes yes yes yes

These lollipops you speak of ?

They’re available where ?

Hurry mate , I'm melting faster than they do.
Get a pack of 3 for the weekend

 

[UddersBlade]

I can’t tell you something that hasn’t happened.

I can tell you who has left with one year or less left on their deal, for a far lower price. None of which we ever really replaced.

Ndiaye
Berge
Anel
Bogle
And now, Hamer.

We also let one of our most expensive signings ever, Oli McBurnie, walk away for zero.

Cracking post. All under Bettis reign….. he is the one constant for this shit show!

 

[Keen Blade]

Cracking post. All under Bettis reign….. he is the one constant for this shit show!

He's the CEO - the buck stops with him - if the executives are crap at their jobs , he's the Chief and it's his responsibility.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

All are estimates from a typical clickbait website

Thought it probably was but the bottom line is that we likely pay salaries that are competitive at this level or we wouldn't have the likes of Bamford, Tanganga et al on the books.

 

[S64 Blade]

What do you mean poor wages? 10 plus grand a week sounds pretty decent to me.

Not sure how accurate this is...

2026-27 Sheffield United Salaries and Contracts - SalaryLeaks

Sheffield United's total wage bill for the 2026-27 season is £16.3 million, the 10th-highest in the English Championship. Explore their historic payroll tables.

www.salaryleaks.com

It is irrelevant if it sounds a lot to you and I.

 

[bertieblade]

Wilder stated this morning that the wage bill when we achieved 92 points was the fourth highest in the league, it is currently 10th highest

 

[S64 Blade]

Hamer hasn't gone yet. We made substantial money on all of them except for Berge and McBurnie. What is it that you propose the club do, to make people sign contracts, they don't want to sign?

We could and in some cases, should have made substantially more.

As Bladesman outlined, making a call sooner would help the club plan to properly replace and give the club leverage to sell at a higher price. We have very limited negotiating power in the final year which is why they all leave for relatively smaller amounts.

I get we can’t win them all, but that’s a pretty harrowing list of failures over the last 3 years.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

It is irrelevant if it sounds a lot to you and I.

Well then why are we discussing it? We don't even know what it is so it's moot.

 

[Bladesman]

I would support strictly adhering to a 2 year rule with contracts

Don't care who the player is. Nobody can be treated as irreplaceable, because none of them are

If they enter the last 2 years, don't want to renew, and have significant transfer value, then sell

The return on investment since 2019 has been disgraceful and can never happen again

Timing player sales is a crucial skill, and not all that difficult either

Exactly, not sure we are firm enough on this. This all needs to be done in a summer window as well not mid season.

 

[S64 Blade]

Well then why are we discussing it? We don't even know what it is so it's moot.

You raised the point about it being a lot.

I’m saying it’s a lot to us, but to the people who matter in this argument, the players, it seemingly isn’t enough.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

You raised the point about it being a lot.

I’m saying it’s a lot to us, but to the people who matter in this argument, the players, it seemingly isn’t enough.

Another poster made the comment that we pay shit wages, we have a full squad so obviously what we're paying those players is enough.

 

[TopBoy]

Nothing wrong with that interview, as honest as the day is long. I am mates with others who have season tickets elsewhere (Forest, Peterborough, Notts County, and a load in non-league) and all of these clubs (plus others I hear on phone-ins) are in the same position: waiting for movement further up the food chain before players to purchase and then loans become available. You can do your business early if you are awash with cash; we're not and will just have to wait our turn, frustrating as it is.

 

[Bladesman]

I would support strictly adhering to a 2 year rule with contracts

Don't care who the player is. Nobody can be treated as irreplaceable, because none of them are

If they enter the last 2 years, don't want to renew, and have significant transfer value, then sell

The return on investment since 2019 has been disgraceful and can never happen again

Timing player sales is a crucial skill, and not all that difficult either

There is a bit of a backfire on this though. For example, we made it too obvious with Berge that we wanted to offload him before he got to the last year of his contract. We handed leverage to other clubs who were happy to sit and wait for him to get cheaper.

It just needs to be an unwritten internal rule that before the final 2 years of any player deal, it's either sign an extension or leave. There has been no agent leverage working out here by letting a player get to the final year, its never forced us as a club into offering much better terms.

 

[S64 Blade]

Another poster made the comment that we pay shit wages, we have a full squad so obviously what we're paying those players is enough.

Was enough.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

Was enough.

Oh, ok.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Exactly. The management of it is poor given it’s a repeating pattern for top players.

And if we hoped Leeds were going to give us the same price as 12 months ago then that commercial naivety is telling.

Its easy to say we should have sold last summer now knowing what we do.Reality is we had just missed out on promotion and had intentions of going again. Until we self sabotaged ourselves I think we could have too

 

[Valley Blade]

We could and in some cases, should have made substantially more.

As Bladesman outlined, making a call sooner would help the club plan to properly replace and give the club leverage to sell at a higher price. We have very limited negotiating power in the final year which is why they all leave for relatively smaller amounts.

I get we can’t win them all, but that’s a pretty harrowing list of failures over the last 3 years.

On your list, 2 players have left for less, than we bought them for. Hardly a harrowing list of failures is it. It will probably be less or very similar to all the other clubs. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and just another stick to beat the club with.

 

[S64 Blade]

On your list, 2 players have left for less, than we bought them for. Hardly a harrowing list of failures is it. It will probably be less or very similar to all the other clubs. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and just another stick to beat the club with.

No it isn’t.

You’re missing the point entirely about them being sold for far less than we could have otherwise got if they’d not had 1 year left on their deal.

Over the last few years we are consistently under selling key players and replacing them with inferior players.

The trend is evident in our plight on the field.

Next summer may be even more interesting with all the following having their deals up in 2028.

Peck
Burrows
Cooper
Arblaster
O’Hare
Tanganga

 

[Bladesman]

No it isn’t.

You’re missing the point entirely about them being sold for far less than we could have otherwise got if they’d not had 1 year left on their deal.

Over the last few years we are consistently under selling key players and replacing them with inferior players.

The trend is evident in our plight on the field.

Next summer may be even more interesting with all the following having their deals up in 2028.

Peck
Burrows
Cooper
Arblaster
O’Hare
Tanganga

Sell now!

 

[Valley Blade]

No it isn’t.

You’re missing the point entirely about them being sold for far less than we could have otherwise got if they’d not had 1 year left on their deal.

Over the last few years we are consistently under selling key players and replacing them with inferior players.

The trend is evident in our plight on the field.

Next summer may be even more interesting with all the following having their deals up in 2028.

Peck
Burrows
Cooper
Arblaster
O’Hare
Tanganga

I understand all that. However, how can you physically make someone sign a contract they don't want to? You seem to be implying United are so badly run that they don't even try. I would find that to be highly unlikely and almost laughable.

 

[Wards]

football team that apart from a cup win in 87 has never done anything,

With all due respect, that’s a fuck ton more than us in the last 100 years

 

[Blades1971]

£8 Million plus Simms. Get it done.

 

[bertieblade]

£8 Million plus Simms. Get it done.

Where did you pluck those figures from?

 

[TJ blade]

Because, despite all evidence to the opposite, Wilder sees himself as a top tier manager and has become obsessed with big names like Phillips & Souttar. He’d see players like Cleary as beneath him.

Wilder's no were near a top tier manager, this is possibly his last job at this level!