Ha ha ha ha ha!

[blade too long]

Not lost a league game since Murphy went have we ?

he left leaving us adrift at the bottom , but weve climbed to an automatic spot without him , scoring plenty and keeping clean sheets

cant think of any reason to miss him

 

[MalvernBlade]

To be fair the center half coming in has given given us a platform to attack.

 

[Trigger Blade]

Pommpey, you still out there? Not heard a thing from you since we've won every league game after selling Murphy. The cabbages who bought season tickets await your words of wisdom.

I think he popped in briefly after Fulham's third....

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

Only a matter of time before someone posts that we've won all these games because we sold Murphy.

 

[blade too long]

Only a matter of time before someone posts that we've won all these games because we sold Murphy.

thanks for that

 

[Rodley]

I think he popped in briefly after Fulham's third....

You have to look back at these threads and cringe.

The flounce-o-meter was off the chart a few weeks ago with the Usual Suspects rubbing their hands with glee.

 

[RealMcCoy]

Really happy to see Collins come back this season. I don't think he's always the most solid centre half, he's certainly made some mistakes in the past, but the defence is better with him than without him. Never understood why Clough did what he did with Collins (and Butler come to that) given the weakness we showed.
I'd love to see him have a great season, but not sure he's good enough to keep the position. Certainly not if we go up.

 

[sportinguista]

Yes small club your rite, premiership is 23 seasons old we've been there for 3. We have languished around the lower leagues more or less since we formed. No trophy since 1925,

Er...Division Four Champions 1981/82...hello? Only fucking thing they've won in my lifetime and you're trying to deny it...I was there and I saw it with my own eyes...ah shite, don't tell me it was just a dream after all...

 

[mattbianco1]

missing Murphy , our only goal threat ? really
shows how wrong people can be

It shows us why the "ignore" button was invented. You don't have to read stuff from certain posters.

 

[Barney]

Murphy was by far and away our best player when he was here, and the fact that posters are implying his contributions in the past have been a hinderence just because we've sold him is a shame to see. Would you be uttering such words should Murphy still be in a Sheffield United shirt? I suspect not and I would go as far as saying that if someone was to post negatively towards Murphy whilst he was here then said poster would get ridiculed for stupidity on this board. It's time to realise that the Murphy sale and the rise up the league are about as independant from one another as is physically possible, and to suggest otherwise is quite ludicrous in my view.

 

[Large Mendonca]

...........and by the very same, when we play shit, certain other posters are incredibly absent too.

We all want the same thing, some people vent, others take stock and seek reason. As Brian of Nazareth once said "We're all different"

 

[Blade82]

I'm sure Pompey hopes this thread bites him on the bum all season as we walk promotion without murphy.

I wasn't overly dissappointed at the Murphy sale but can't blame some for thinking here we go again, same owd etc hence the negative comments, especially after a 4-0 hiding and following years and years of disappointment. This club is changing for the better though but some fans just need to see action rather than the usual talk before they start to believe it.

It's always nice to be proven wrong in these instances.

 

[mattbianco1]

I'm sure Pompey hopes this thread bites him on the bum.

Many of his posts do

 

[coaxingstar71]

Murphy was by far and away our best player when he was here, and the fact that posters are implying his contributions in the past have been a hinderence just because we've sold him is a shame to see. Would you be uttering such words should Murphy still be in a Sheffield United shirt? I suspect not and I would go as far as saying that if someone was to post negatively towards Murphy whilst he was here then said poster would get ridiculed for stupidity on this board. It's time to realise that the Murphy sale and the rise up the league are about as independant from one another as is physically possible, and to suggest otherwise is quite ludicrous in my view.

Totally agree.
Absolute bollox to suggest we've started winning because he's gone. I think we do still miss him at the moment because I don't think Adams is the answer on the left and I think he's uncomfortable there and his best position is up top. Of the current squad, maybe Woolford is the better option but I can see why Adkins is persisting with it and as we are winning, it's not a big problem.
Annoys me when former players are abused. Get over it, that's life.

 

[sitwell]

I think some are going to find it hard to accept that Adams will not play week in week out ,he will have to be managed the same as Reed and other young players are. Maguire was an exception to this but he was an exceptional player who is sadly been wasted at the moment.

 

[coaxingstar71]

I think some are going to find it hard to accept that Adams will not play week in week out ,he will have to be managed the same as Reed and other young players are. Maguire was an exception to this but he was an exceptional player who is sadly been wasted at the moment.

I couldn't believe it when Reed was getting grief over his performances at the end of last season. He's only 18 FFS!! Firstly, he was playing in an under performing side, secondly he was probably playing to some daft instructions from Negative Nige and thirdly it was his first full season as a pro - and then we expect our players to play without fear? Unbelievable.

 

[Blade56]

Murphy was by far and away our best player when he was here, and the fact that posters are implying his contributions in the past have been a hinderence just because we've sold him is a shame to see. Would you be uttering such words should Murphy still be in a Sheffield United shirt? I suspect not and I would go as far as saying that if someone was to post negatively towards Murphy whilst he was here then said poster would get ridiculed for stupidity on this board. It's time to realise that the Murphy sale and the rise up the league are about as independant from one another as is physically possible, and to suggest otherwise is quite ludicrous in my view.

I agree Murph was our best performing individual player. But it's the sum of the individual parts argument, for whatever reasons the team wasn't balanced while he was here and that potentially denied him service and/or put to much onus on him to carry the results.

With the team IMHO more balanced (since the Gillingham game) all players are noticeable as achieving their individual role resulting in a better team performance and 4 wins. I would rather have a good team performance than one or two outstanding individuals and a poor poor team performance.

As for murph I think we all wish him well in his quest for better things than we can offer, he's happy bench warming at Brighton waiting for his big chance and we're happy stringing results together

 

[him behind you]

Totally agree.
Absolute bollox to suggest we've started winning because he's gone. I think we do still miss him at the moment because I don't think Adams is the answer on the left and I think he's uncomfortable there and his best position is up top. Of the current squad, maybe Woolford is the better option but I can see why Adkins is persisting with it and as we are winning, it's not a big problem.
Annoys me when former players are abused. Get over it, that's life.

Agree with both you and barney if it's serious but I'd like to believe that the Murphy comments are classic sheffield tongue-in-cheek humour. Whilst we are winning without him and he may not have been the most consistent player we've had, there's no denying that on his day (and he had lots that weren't his) he would still be a positive addition to the current side.

Whether he'd be a positive addition to the "team" only he, the players, and the staff know that.

 

[coaxingstar71]

Agree with both you and barney if it's serious but I'd like to believe that the Murphy comments are classic sheffield tongue-in-cheek humour. Whilst we are winning without him and he may not have been the most consistent player we've had, there's no denying that on his day (and he had lots that weren't his) he would still be a positive addition to the current side.

Whether he'd be a positive addition to the "team" only he, the players, and the staff know that.

Oh it's serious alright, it's as serious as Pommpey believing that the board are keeping the club in this league on purpose.

 

[metalblade]

The classic case of a player being shit all of a sudden after leaving the club, the more they are rubbished indicates the better a player they were for us. Yes we have a more balanced and better forward line now but I think Murphy would still command a place in it if he was still with us so yes putting the improved results down to selling our best player is just a bit childish and spiteful of our fans.

 

[blade too long]

no ones said hes been a hinderance , he was very raw when he came and he owes us much for his improvement , he was a good player and contributed well , but hes gone
time to let it drop, players come players go ,
thats how football is
cherishing a particular player and bemoaning his departure is wasted emotion

sometimes a fresh approach is needed , thats whats occurred
Murphy did ok , the new set up has started like a house on fire

 

[blade too long]

so murphy was better than basham and brayford and Done
you prepared to go to the changing room and tell them

He did fine for us but he wasnt the be all
Good luck to him but we have young lads who will overtake him

 

[Cyprus Blade]

If Mr. Clough was still with us I think we would have felt Murphy's absence far more than we have, as he was the main outlet ball. Mr. Adkins' style is different (thankfully) and I doubt whether Murphy would have had the same kind of impact in the side as it is set up. I wish Murphy all the luck in the world and think he made a valuable contribution but, like Mr. Clough, he has gone and SUFC moves on. Mr. Adkins has made an impressive entrance: the players look fitter, better motivated, seem to know what they are doing, look far more comfortable with their jobs and SUFC have more than one string to our bow. Positive stuff.

 

[Guesty]

I think some are going to find it hard to accept that Adams will not play week in week out ,he will have to be managed the same as Reed and other young players are. Maguire was an exception to this but he was an exceptional player who is sadly been wasted at the moment.

Indeed, even against Chesterfield Adams was taken off after about an hour or so. Now I doubt it was tactical given he had scored twice and it was certainly early if the intention was to give him his own ovation so I assume he was shattered even in a game where he was tearing the opposition apart.

 

[grafikhaus]

Murphy was by far and away our best player when he was here, and the fact that posters are implying his contributions in the past have been a hinderence just because we've sold him is a shame to see. Would you be uttering such words should Murphy still be in a Sheffield United shirt? I suspect not and I would go as far as saying that if someone was to post negatively towards Murphy whilst he was here then said poster would get ridiculed for stupidity on this board. It's time to realise that the Murphy sale and the rise up the league are about as independant from one another as is physically possible, and to suggest otherwise is quite ludicrous in my view.

All true. To some people it's like the 'manager in the technical area' debate. Didn't like Clough's inactivity on the sidelines? Would you prefer a ranter and raver like Warnock? But, of course it's not black and white - as NA is showing.

And all this Murphy nonsense is classic black & white-ism. The only debate to be had is, how do you replace Murphy with whatever fee we got for him? If it was £1.75m, you can't buy a player of Murphy's talents for that kind of money. (© Michael Parkinson)

To expand the argument, what did we get for Maguire, McDonald, Murphy and, say, Quinn? Let's say £6m. I think we'd have been in the Championship now if we'd held on to that little quartet - all sold in the last 24 months. A truly ambitious club would not be looking at Adams, Sharp and Sammon. They'd be looking at Adams, Sharp, Sammon and Murphy.

 

[blade too long]

Brightons already got Murphy sat on the bench didnt get a look in yesterday, hes still learning , the sum of the team is greater than any individual
Our system now we can cope without him , thats not decrying what he did , just a fact,our balance is much better, the players we have in the shirts up front are all we should care about now.

 

[blade too long]

To expand the argument, what did we get for Maguire, McDonald, Murphy and, say, Quinn? Let's say £6m. I think we'd have been in the Championship now if we'd held on to that little quartet - all sold in the last 24 months.

to be fair 47 other teams below the championship could pick out 4 or 5 players theyd sold in the past 4 years and argue the same case , doesnt always follow though
see theres no mention of the equivalent spending over that period
weve been in the top 7 all 4 seasons so fallen just short , not deteriorated into a bottom half league one side
we all know 1 mans idiotic actions stopped us returning straight away
nothing the board did could account for that

 

[Rodley]

...........and by the very same, when we play shit, certain other posters are incredibly absent too.

We all want the same thing, some people vent, others take stock and seek reason. As Brian of Nazareth once said "We're all different"

I agree and I think everyone was disappointed to lose Murphy. I think the issue is that after one sale or one defeat, "I'm disappointed at that sale / defeat" is conflated to:

A) The Board haven't put any money in
B) The Board are taking money out
C) The Board are going to sell the freehold for 100s of millions of pounds and build a new ground for 30 quid
D) The investment doesn't exist and is a elaborate ruse to run the club into the ground
E) McCabe doesn't want us to go up as its too expensive and anyway he's too busy being the devil incarnate

It generally then ends up being reduced to sentiments such as "you're all idiots for continuing to support the club" and the emphasis is on anyone who disagrees with the A) to E) to prove it unequivocally.

It's tiresome.

 

[Large Mendonca]

I agree and I think everyone was disappointed to lose Murphy. I think the issue is that after one sale or one defeat, "I'm disappointed at that sale / defeat" is conflated to:

A) The Board haven't put any money in
B) The Board are taking money out
C) The Board are going to sell the freehold for 100s of millions of pounds and build a new ground for 30 quid
D) The investment doesn't exist and is a elaborate ruse to run the club into the ground
E) McCabe doesn't want us to go up as its too expensive and anyway he's too busy being the devil incarnate

It generally then ends up being reduced to sentiments such as "you're all idiots for continuing to support the club" and the emphasis is on anyone who disagrees with the A) to E) to prove it unequivocally.

It's tiresome.

Don't disagree with any of that - it's quite obvious the Board have backed the manager(s), and the very signing of Adkins himself should stop all that criticism.

 

[blade too long]

Let's see the optimists pour some sunshine on our best player

Jesus. I am depressed. Deane, Fjortoft, Quinn, Jagielka, Brown, Borbokis, Blackman, S Quinn, McDonald, Maguire but to name a few. What, if ever, came the other way but for substandard players? Christ, we had to almost burn down Bramall Lane to get the daft bellends to buy something with (some of the) the two and ahalf fro Maguire and that wasn't a centre back

pommpey

just at a quick glance
has anyone on that list actually gone on to win anything

Blackmans really set the world on fire hasnt he
he finally scored yesterday

had we sold someone who went on to win a cup or a title, macdonald played in wolves promotion from this league seems the best return, hardly world beating

dont remember there being fans carrying lit torches when we bought Brayford