Gravitational waves

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"The announcement is the climax of a century of speculation, 50 years of trial and error, and 25 years perfecting a set of instruments so sensitive they could identify a distortion in spacetime a thousandth the diameter of one atomic nucleus across a 4km strip of laserbeam and mirror." (Tim Radford, The Guardian)

A bit like our efforts to get out of Division Three then. Apart from the "perfecting a set of instruments so sensitive they could identify a distortion in spacetime a thousandth the diameter of one atomic nucleus across a 4km strip of laserbeam and mirror." We don't do "perfecting".
 
Call me a cycnic BUT, if you've spent a few million setting up this:

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and you're the bloke in charge and you'd like to get a Nobel prize or whatever, you would say this;

"We have detected gravitational waves. We did it," says LIGO executive director.

wouldn't you?
 
This might be wandering off topic but in case anyone's interested PBS Space Time have done a fairly high level explainer here on how they were found.



And this is their video from the time of the discovery.

 
This might be wandering off topic but in case anyone's interested PBS Space Time have done a fairly high level explainer here on how they were found.



And this is their video from the time of the discovery.


Einstein knew it all a hundred years ago, what a genius he was!
 


I love that film.

Me and my dad walked, yes walked to the Rex at Intake from Hemsworth (and back) just to see it.

I asked him (as he'd been in the big push from the north down through France toward Italy and Yugoslavia - where he was blown up by a mine and shot at by mistake by the fucking Partisans) if it was true. He said, "No son. The Americans weren't that good ... and the Germans weren't that stupid!"

Line from that movie.

Cowboy: "Pwhoar. You guys sure smell like a dung heap"
Crapgame: "Kinda make ya feel homesick, huh?"

Still have the 7" of the theme tune somewhere. Burning Bridges.

pommpey
 
I love that film.

Me and my dad walked, yes walked to the Rex at Intake from Hemsworth (and back) just to see it.

I asked him (as he'd been in the big push from the north down through France toward Italy and Yugoslavia - where he was blown up by a mine and shot at by mistake by the fucking Partisans) if it was true. He said, "No son. The Americans weren't that good ... and the Germans weren't that stupid!"

Line from that movie.

Cowboy: "Pwhoar. You guys sure smell like a dung heap"
Crapgame: "Kinda make ya feel homesick, huh?"

Still have the 7" of the theme tune somewhere. Burning Bridges.

pommpey
I love that film.

Me and my dad walked, yes walked to the Rex at Intake from Hemsworth (and back) just to see it.

I asked him (as he'd been in the big push from the north down through France toward Italy and Yugoslavia - where he was blown up by a mine and shot at by mistake by the fucking Partisans) if it was true. He said, "No son. The Americans weren't that good ... and the Germans weren't that stupid!"

Line from that movie.

Cowboy: "Pwhoar. You guys sure smell like a dung heap"
Crapgame: "Kinda make ya feel homesick, huh?"

Still have the 7" of the theme tune somewhere. Burning Bridges.

pommpey

The film was made in Vizinada in Croatia and if you go on google maps you can go to the actual streets where some of the main buildings are still visible.
 

Don't worry though, all the religious nuts are still allowed to say a magic man made the earth in 7 days, then flooded it, killing everything apart from 2 of every one of the 8 million species which he crammed onto a single vessel that was built buy 1 man in 1 day.

You can't throw them in a nut house though, you have to 'respect their views'
 
Congratulations to the scientists who have confirmed the existence of gravitational waves. Does this explain why Simonsen's penalty almost ended up in space?
Yep, but it failed to find any sign of Dan Burn


Plus we can find gravitational waves but some still can't find reight topic board ;)
 
So Einstein the genius was right, who'd have thought it, I won't pretend I can follow the maths but maybe now people can take another look and see if there is any truth in Darwin's wild assertions. I think we can all agree that they will be shown to be moonshine ;)
 
So Einstein the genius was right, who'd have thought it, I won't pretend I can follow the maths but maybe now people can take another look and see if there is any truth in Darwin's wild assertions. I think we can all agree that they will be shown to be moonshine ;)

I remember reading a comment sometime about how it's a good job the Bible doesn't go into how apples fall from trees or we'd all be arguing about that.

A kid once described it to me as a Magic Hand pulling you towards the Earth.)
 
I remember reading a comment sometime about how it's a good job the Bible doesn't go into how apples fall from trees or we'd all be arguing about that.

A kid once described it to me as a Magic Hand pulling you towards the Earth.)

Well it is a bit of a concept bro, but you have to give respect and due to these brainy chaps that work it out. I can just about get my head around Newton - and his laws were groundbreaking, a relatively short time ago. Einstein was on another level.

What annoys me is when my fellow citizens challenge a concept they can just about grasp - say evolution. I should say that the idea that the natural world was created in seven days, 6000 years ago is far more challengeable, than anything Darwin proposed. Even while being threatened with being burned alive it would be hard to agree with biblical ideas on why fossils are found up mountains. Nonetheless, I read that 42% of Americans don't believe in evolution and even allowing for that nation's natural stupidity this is troubling. Scientists are generally idealistic people doing their best for human knowledge and their ideas are far too easily manipulated by weasels imho. I'll get me coat.
 
Well it is a bit of a concept bro, but you have to give respect and due to these brainy chaps that work it out. I can just about get my head around Newton - and his laws were groundbreaking, a relatively short time ago. Einstein was on another level.

What annoys me is when my fellow citizens challenge a concept they can just about grasp - say evolution. I should say that the idea that the natural world was created in seven days, 6000 years ago is far more challengeable, than anything Darwin proposed. Even while being threatened with being burned alive it would be hard to agree with biblical ideas on why fossils are found up mountains. Nonetheless, I read that 42% of Americans don't believe in evolution and even allowing for that nation's natural stupidity this is troubling. Scientists are generally idealistic people doing their best for human knowledge and their ideas are far too easily manipulated by weasels imho. I'll get me coat.

 
Congratulations to the scientists who have confirmed the existence of gravitational waves. Does this explain why Simonsen's penalty almost ended up in space?
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The Simonsen penalty ball was finally discovered late last year by a team of dedicated Russian astronauts.

Bringing to an end one of the most complex searches of our time.
 
What annoys me is when my fellow citizens challenge a concept they can just about grasp - say evolution. I should say that the idea that the natural world was created in seven days, 6000 years ago is far more challengeable, than anything Darwin proposed

Evolution is more than a concept it is a well established and proven fact, even though when initially proposed by Darwin it was called The Theory of Evolution. This doesn't mean 'theory' in everyday usage no more than the theory when first proposed that the earth is a sphere and not flat.

The earth being 6,000 years old is up there with 'game changing investment and the premier league in 5 years'........:confused:
 
Well it is a bit of a concept bro, but you have to give respect and due to these brainy chaps that work it out. I can just about get my head around Newton - and his laws were groundbreaking, a relatively short time ago. Einstein was on another level.

What annoys me is when my fellow citizens challenge a concept they can just about grasp - say evolution. I should say that the idea that the natural world was created in seven days, 6000 years ago is far more challengeable, than anything Darwin proposed. Even while being threatened with being burned alive it would be hard to agree with biblical ideas on why fossils are found up mountains. Nonetheless, I read that 42% of Americans don't believe in evolution and even allowing for that nation's natural stupidity this is troubling. Scientists are generally idealistic people doing their best for human knowledge and their ideas are far too easily manipulated by weasels imho. I'll get me coat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
 
I have managed to capture a picture of the beginning of time......

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Oh alright then thyme! Work better if you say it..........o_O
 
Call me a cycnic BUT, if you've spent a few million setting up this:

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and you're the bloke in charge and you'd like to get a Nobel prize or whatever, you would say this;

"We have detected gravitational waves. We did it," says LIGO executive director.

wouldn't you?

Good question which goes to the heart of the scientific method: results have to be repeated to have any validity.

In this case I think the results were seen at two different observatories/facilities.
 
Actually these gravitational waves might explain the existence of Doncaster?

A sort of quirk existing in a ripple of the space-time continuum.
 

Fatty, thats just it, the waves are so microscopic in amplitude, I'm half expecting waves of inaccuracy in a few weeks time plus an apology, an excuse and a retraction

- do you remember the Italians decided that particles had been escaping CERN and smashing their way through the alps and dolomites at faster than the speed of light a couple of years back? a month later they decided that, surprise, surprise, they had mis-measured the distance, the accuracies required are as far as I'm concerned, unsurveyable.

- still the Italian mob were trying to prove Einstein wrong, at least the latest findings agree with old Albert and that lends the results a certain gravitas.....



the flip remarks about Doncaster by other contributors do them no credit whatsoever, as its the centre of the universe.
 

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