Gillingham

[Darren]

I have to say I was impressed by United's visit to my neck of the woods. The second half was a great example of how to hang on to a 1-0 lead. We never looked under any real pressure and from the 46th to the 94th minute never panicked. We looked a much better team than mid table Gillingham

The team has a solid look about them now and I think the introduction of Howard has a lot to do with it. He is calm and solid in goal and one goal conceded in 4 games tells its own story.

If we keep playing like that we will be comfortably mid table in a month or so.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I have to say I was impressed by United's visit to my neck of the woods. The second half was a great example of how to hang on to a 1-0 lead. We never looked under any real pressure and from the 46th to the 94th minute never panicked. We looked a much better team than mid table Gillingham

The team has a solid look about them now and I think the introduction of Howard has a lot to do with it. He is calm and solid in goal and one goal conceded in 4 games tells its own story.

If we keep playing like that we will be comfortably mid table in a month or so.

Glad you enjoyed the game Darren, but therein lies the obvious question. We have the appearance of a team who are following their manager's instructions carefully, and to repeat what is now an often heard refrain, we lack one, maybe two, ingredients, forwards of quality. I'm actually enjoying us and the way we're playing. I doubt it will all be plain sailing between now and the end of the season, but we have enough about us to collect the necessary number of points to be secure this season.

 

[boo radley]

Very good simple assessment.

 

[Jon Bon]

The team has a solid look about them now and I think the introduction of Howard has a lot to do with it. He is calm and solid in goal and one goal conceded in 4 games tells its own story.

I seem to remember a couple of months ago suggesting on here that we give young Calamity a rest and put Howard in his place. Luckily I managed to land the old crate safely in a field despite all of the flak damage. Think I'm going to take to the skies again with one of those trailing banners that says 'Who's The Daddy Now..?'

 

[Northyorksblade]

Why, oh why do people have to use childish derogatory nick names for players they don't like?

 

[Houso]

young Calamity a rest'

The state of this post.

 

[SwissBlade]

Why, oh why do people have to use childish derogatory nick names for players they don't like?

Agree with you there, it was the same with managers like Adams and Blackwell. Personally I find it completely disrespectful to give such nicknames to players that are currently with us.

Thankfully we have good positive nicknames like Scoogs and the Beard

 

[JohnDenver]

Thankfully we have good positive nicknames like the Beard

Positive insofar as it minds me of an untended lady garden….

 

[Darren]

Agree with you there, it was the same with managers like Adams and Blackwell. Personally I find it completely disrespectful to give such nicknames to players that are currently with us.

Thankfully we have good positive nicknames like Scoogs and the Beard

I think that giving a derogatory nickname to anyone is something that should really have been left behind in the primary school playground.

 

[SwissBlade]

Perhaps we should have a derogatory nickname for those that give derogatory nicknames

 

[pommpey]

You guys for real?

Are you suggesting the players are in some way hurt by the fact that they pick up daft nicknames that reflect their on-field underperformance?

Next, you'll be saying 'positive aspect of match write-ups only, please. We don't want to hear if a player has been sub-optimal during his 90 minutes on the pitch' (whilst 17-odd thousand pay upwards of £20 to watch them go down to a humiliating defeat at home, as has been done this season) When that happens (and I credit Foxy and Linds with a bit more leniency and judgement.) then this board ceases its purpose. We are not talking 'abuse' here. It's 'banter' in it's true sense, and reflects opinion.

By all means, give people like me a derogatory nickname. Fill your boots. Like me, I'd imagine our better-paid-than-you Galacticos couldn't give a fat fuck either.

pommpey

 

[Darren]

You guys for real?

Are you suggesting the players are in some way hurt by the fact that they pick up daft nicknames that reflect their on-field underperformance?

Next, you'll be saying 'positive aspect of match write-ups only, please. We don't want to hear if a player has been sub-optimal during his 90 minutes on the pitch' (whilst 17-odd thousand pay upwards of £20 to watch them go down to a humiliating defeat at home, as has been done this season) When that happens (and I credit Foxy and Linds with a bit more

By all means, give people like me a derogatory nickname. Fill your boots. Like me, I'd imagine our better-paid-than-you Galacticos couldn't give a fat fuck either.

pommpey

No, we're suggesting that giving someone a silly nickname as a means of criticism is a bit childish and..well... silly. You think objecting to it as a bit precious. Different strokes and all that.

 

[Jon Bon]

Fucking hell! This forum has turned into the Young Wesleyan's Methodist Association overnight!

Maybe I should start calling young Calam....er, George - 'Elliott Ness' - seeing how he's so 'untouchable' in all of your eyes.

Now we shall all turn to page 162, Psalm 42, chapter 4 - 'Thou shallst not have a bit of fun by taking the young messiah's name in vain', which will be read out aloud by that hairdresser's car driving puff, Swiss Blade.

 

[Selly]

No, we're suggesting that giving someone a silly nickname as a means of criticism is a bit childish and..well... silly. You think objecting to it as a bit precious. Different strokes and all that.

Hark at Mr Kinky Nipples over here...

 

[Northyorksblade]

You guys for real?

Are you suggesting the players are in some way hurt by the fact that they pick up daft nicknames that reflect their on-field underperformance?

Next, you'll be saying 'positive aspect of match write-ups only, please. We don't want to hear if a player has been sub-optimal during his 90 minutes on the pitch' (whilst 17-odd thousand pay upwards of £20 to watch them go down to a humiliating defeat at home, as has been done this season) When that happens (and I credit Foxy and Linds with a bit more leniency and judgement.) then this board ceases its purpose. We are not talking 'abuse' here. It's 'banter' in it's true sense, and reflects opinion.

By all means, give people like me a derogatory nickname. Fill your boots. Like me, I'd imagine our better-paid-than-you Galacticos couldn't give a fat fuck either.

pommpey

It's nothing to do with it maybe upsetting the players. In my opinion , it's childish,is all. Anyway surely banter is between participating people

 

[Houso]

Aside from the childish aspect of it, for me it's about potentially damaging a young player's already fragile confidence by giving him a shit nickname. Every wondered why opposition supporters give rival players belittling nicknames?

 

[Grecian2000]

Aye, it's not like nicknames exist all over the place and have since the beginning of time both good and bad.

Where would we be without Red Ken, The Iron Lady or Milk Snatcher (depending on your viewpoint), Chopper Harris, Eddie the Eagle, Steady Eddie, The Mannassa Mauler, Goldenballs, Psycho, Chariots, Two Jags, The Walrus et al.

Long may it be so.

 

[Houso]

Aye, it's not like nicknames exist all over the place and have since the beginning of time both good and bad.

Where would we be without Red Ken, The Iron Lady or Milk Snatcher (depending on your viewpoint), Chopper Harris, Eddie the Eagle, Steady Eddie, The Mannassa Mauler, Goldenballs, Psycho, Chariots, Two Jags, The Walrus et al.

Long may it be so.

Thing is, when it's someone who's supposed to support you, it garners a completely different tone.

If your Dad or other half started calling you Fatty every time you put on a few pounds, it would raise a few eyebrows. Or if you performed badly in your line of work and customers started to call you Retard, I get the feeling it wouldn't be shrugged off with a wry smile.

In a pressurised position such a goalkeeper, you don't want to be worried about every cross you go for fear of getting slagged off by the Kop.

 

[Darren]

Thing is, when it's someone who's supposed to support you, it garners a completely different tone.

If your Dad or other half started calling you Fatty every time you put on a few pounds, it would raise a few eyebrows. Or if you performed badly in your line of work and customers started to call you Retard, I get the feeling it wouldn't be shrugged off with a wry smile.

In a pressurised position such a goalkeeper, you don't want to be worried about every cross you go for fear of getting slagged off by the Kop.

Ah, but once you start paying young men £x thousand they become magically immune to the vulnerabilities other people have.

 

[Bladesway]

Thing is, when it's someone who's supposed to support you, it garners a completely different tone.

If your Dad or other half started calling you Fatty every time you put on a few pounds, it would raise a few eyebrows. Or if you performed badly in your line of work and customers started to call you Retard, I get the feeling it wouldn't be shrugged off with a wry smile.

In a pressurised position such a goalkeeper, you don't want to be worried about every cross you go for fear of getting slagged off by the Kop.

Your either good enough or you are not. a few naughty names really won't effect that. If someone is scared they are going to get pelters if they come for a cross they really ought to take up another job. If being called calamity brings your world down around you I would suggest you go seek professional help.

 

[Bladesway]

Ah, but once you start paying young men £x thousand they become magically immune to the vulnerabilities other people have.

If someone called you names in your job (and they probably do) what would you think of them? Childish? Arsehole? Fuckwit? Or ignore it and drive on. I can imagine he has to put up with far worse on the field of play than anything said here.

 

[Grecian2000]

Thing is, when it's someone who's supposed to support you, it garners a completely different tone.

If your Dad or other half started calling you Fatty every time you put on a few pounds, it would raise a few eyebrows. Or if you performed badly in your line of work and customers started to call you Retard, I get the feeling it wouldn't be shrugged off with a wry smile.

In a pressurised position such a goalkeeper, you don't want to be worried about every cross you go for fear of getting slagged off by the Kop.

Thing is Flouncy Bollocks (damn that Raul, I meant HOUSO), it works exactly oppositely (can't be a word can it?) for me.

If some stranger in the street called me Fatty I'd be calling him Fat Lip very soon afterwards, if any of my family were to do so it would just be banter and laughed off.
Worst a customer ever called me was a "supercilious cunt". This actually became my nickname for a while amongst my colleagues which I thought quite funny. Different strokes I suppose.

 

[Jon Bon]

Your either good enough or you are not. a few naughty names really won't effect that. If someone is scared they are going to get pelters if they come for a cross they really ought to take up another job. If being called calamity brings your world down around you I would suggest you go seek professional help.

Thing is though Bladesway, it's not George that's kicking off about it. He probably doesn't even read the forum. I'd hazard a guess that some folk on here have never been involved in team sport or been part of a social scene where banter, nicknames and general ribbing and piss taking are the norm. Some folk need to get out more.

 

[Bladesway]

Thing is though Bladesway, it's not George that's kicking off about it. He probably doesn't even read the forum. I'd hazard a guess that some folk on here have never been involved in team sport or been part of a social scene where banter, nicknames and general ribbing and piss taking are the norm. Some folk need to get out more.

Fuck off Warty Knob

 

[Jon Bon]

If your Dad or other half started calling you Fatty every time you put on a few pounds, it would raise a few eyebrows.

It only raised a few eyebrows when my missus bought me this private plate for my 50th birthday.

 

[Houso]

Thing is Flouncy Bollocks (damn that Raul, I meant HOUSO), it works exactly oppositely (can't be a word can it?) for me.

If some stranger in the street called me Fatty I'd be calling him Fat Lip very soon afterwards, if any of my family were to do so it would just be banter and laughed off.
Worst a customer ever called me was a "supercilious cunt". This actually became my nickname for a while amongst my colleagues which I thought quite funny. Different strokes I suppose.

Stranger in the street is entirely different. But regardless, I reckon it'd still give you pause for thought that someone thinks you're fat. It would ever so slightly damage your natural manly confident nature I have no doubt SC.

And with the family, JB isn't using it as 'banter', he's doing it in a (typically for him) unfunny attempt to slag off the player.

To tell the truth, I have no problem giving various players nicknames, but so many times people have commented on Long's lack of confidence and I just can't see how this attitude helps.

 

[oldblade]

You guys for real?

Are you suggesting the players are in some way hurt by the fact that they pick up daft nicknames that reflect their on-field underperformance?

Next, you'll be saying 'positive aspect of match write-ups only, please. We don't want to hear if a player has been sub-optimal during his 90 minutes on the pitch' (whilst 17-odd thousand pay upwards of £20 to watch them go down to a humiliating defeat at home, as has been done this season) When that happens (and I credit Foxy and Linds with a bit more leniency and judgement.) then this board ceases its purpose. We are not talking 'abuse' here. It's 'banter' in it's true sense, and reflects opinion.

By all means, give people like me a derogatory nickname. Fill your boots. Like me, I'd imagine our better-paid-than-you Galacticos couldn't give a fat fuck either.

pommpey

Can't see any post on this thread that says you must be positive. But there is a difference between being (negatively) critical and being abusive.

Referring to anyone by an abusive/offensive 'nickname' might reflect what the writer thinks of that player, but it's not banter in any sense of the word.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Nicknames as banter are usually generated by those known to the named. My wife calls me Fat Git and worse all the time and I give back the ultimate insult with a 'Sinitta'! In those situations (and me calling SV 'Gok') that would be banter. A stranger calling my missus 'Sinitta' might get a 'fuck off' if their lucky, but more likely a roundhouse in the mouth.

Not sure why a football ground would be classed any differently. Mind you, we could always ask Eric Cantona!

 

[Darren]

If someone called you names in your job (and they probably do) what would you think of them? Childish? Arsehole? Fuckwit? Or ignore it and drive on. I can imagine he has to put up with far worse on the field of play than anything said here.

If a number of my clients kept saying I was rubbish at what I do, it would effect my confidence yes. It would have effected it far more when I was Long's age.

Thing is, it either has no effect or a negative effect, so why do it?

 

[pommpey]

Your either good enough or you are not. a few naughty names really won't effect that. If someone is scared they are going to get pelters if they come for a cross they really ought to take up another job. If being called calamity brings your world down around you I would suggest you go seek professional help.

Nail/head.

I challenge anyone on here who hasn't subscribed in their adult life to using a nickname - warranted or not - against someone in the public eye.

And for this 'shall I go up for a cross - mebbe I'll get slagged off by the kop' ... have you actually listened to yourselves there?

Let's put it this way. If sensitive, young George Long catches a few crosses, then he doesn't get slagged off by anyone. If he can't square his pretty bloody gifted lifestyle, sponsorships, pool cars, fat paycheck, training for three hours five days a week, physios and dieticians, and ninety minutes of a weekend in front of a big crowd against looking into his performance and saying to himself (as I don't doubt Hodgy, Jim Brown, Alan Kelly and Simon Tracey did before him) and say, "I don't blame them for slagging me off there. That was shit goalkeeping" and self-improve as well as have the crowd sing "GeorgeLong! GeorgeLong!" when he does well, then maybe he's not cut out for this business. Are you saying he gets wonderful comments when he's between the posts down at the Bramall Lane end? I fear not.

Naïve?

pommpey