Get ready for more segregation

[Worksop II]

From the SYP twitter page:

The game was classified as low risk and therefore all security was provided by SUFC, no police presence at all.

I was past all this before it happened, walked past plenty of Police outside and opposite side of the road at the BP Garage

As there usually is

 

[vorpal blade]

That's right but I walked past the trouble just before it erupted, I walked on to the gaggle of Police outside the Cricketers', they were oblivious, they couldn't see up Bramall Lane to where the fighting was because of the Coaches parked on t'other side of the road from the Ground.

They need to be on Bramall Lane when the away supporters exit the ground - (I accept, this is with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight) - they need to let the 2 different sets of supporters out at different times (I was surprised to see the Norwich fans leaving straight after the whistle).

And yet, when they Police ARE proactive and try to separate the fans at the end of the game all they get is grief.

But above all, the fault yesterday lay with some of OUR supporters - as I have posted elsewhere, there was minor banter, some of our scum shouted Tractor Boys at 'them', they shouted Wednesday as 'us', but you know what? at that point, they were skinnymalink Norfolk
teenagers and 20 somethings shouting at tougher, broader, conditioned 40 odd year-old cretins from Sheffield.

Incidentally, as I saw it, the Blades who got involved were walking UP Bramall Lane from John Street, therefore because nearly everybody else was walking towards town, including the Norwich fans there was more likelihood of confrontation than among those walking the with the flow.

I don't know the ages of the person who fell or who punched him - but I must say that mature men who would strike a KID aren't hard - you are cowards, and deserve nothing but a year or so in prison or worse. Such conduct is disgusting, go to hell.

 

[SB_90]

Blade for sale was bang on in his reply to you.

its alright being mr hindsight after the event, being mr righteous after everythings calmed down & your sat at home. im not condoning it or agreeing with it & im sure the people are regretting there actions waking up this morning but im giving the reason for why because its human nature as i say heat of the moment few pints resentment bubbling for 1/2hr. bringing both fans out ar same time was recipe for disaster 1 slight thing from either fan would set it off.

anyone who has been angry at some point which is 100% of the population. knows why it kicks off. you wont like it but you have you wake up & smell the coffee

 

[Maidenhead]

The lad who went down on our box near the end, blonde haired player, number 23 I think?, was signalling to the bench he needed to come off, then got up and continued playing, he was laughing and waving at the south stand fans as he left the pitch at full time, trying to wind people up, players need to remember they get out in one piece, their fans don't always. Reckless behaviour.

I don't condone violence but players winding fans up can only be a bad thing.

So Michael Doyle at West Ham was wrong to wind them up and they had every right to batter our fans after then game as a result?

Grow up, it's part of the game and you're not adult enough to take it on the chin stay at home.

Pots/ kettles, swings/roundabouts?

 

[Hamburg Blade]

i dont want to condone the fighting but we have to be realistic the rumoured fighting outside wouldnt surprise me, as end of a game was a ticking timebomb waiting to go off & Norwich players have to take there share of the blame because the keeper didnt help & was asking for trouble, when goading the kop at Full Time fanning the flames of some pretty angry fans who wanted to grab goalkeeper by the throat

& all it would take was 1 word said out of turn either way. it would all kick off like it did. im usually a calm man control his anger but tension was high with me so other with shorter fuses. sounds horrible but im amazed it was just 2 or 3 that got hit

Fucking shameful post. Absolutely shameful.

 

[vorpal blade]

its alright being mr hindsight after the event, being mr righteous after everythings calmed down & your sat at home.

Not all of us, thump people when we are frustrated or even angry - drunk or sober, some of us don't get so carried away that they wake up next morning regretting the blood on their hands.

Its fucking showing off - and to injure someone for the sake of showing off is debased - filthy.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

I walked down BL straight after and there was a confrontation between some of our lads and Norwich fans trying to exit the stand.

 

[snootyfenooty]

The average age of our mob was 50+

Blades Grandad Crew.

Why not stick with BBC. The Blades Baldies Crew

By the way, I walked past it. Six and two fucking threes as per usual. And guess what also. I wasn't interested in any of it and walked straight past a few metres away and nobody gave a fuck about me.

 

[PeteBlade]

And there is no doubt the actions of their players and keeper in particular led to a more volatile atmosphere.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. It's a game of football. Yes, it created an atmosphere in the ground, but as any kind of excuse for smashing lot up outside?
People should grow up. Or find a second braincell.

 

[vorpal blade]

By the way, I walked past it. Six and two fucking threes as per usual. And guess what also. I wasn't interested in any of it and walked straight past a few metres away and nobody gave a fuck about me.

have you ever heard the story about the Good Samaritan?

Levite.

 

[S64 Blade]

From the SYP twitter page:

The game was classified as low risk and therefore all security was provided by SUFC, no police presence at all.

Funny they say that when there were about six police officers stood at the bottom of H block the South Stand all game.

I know it's not many, but to say there was no police presence is false.

 

[snootyfenooty]

have you ever heard the story about the Good Samaritan?

Levite.

Yeah I have as it happens. There's no mention of him being an OAP with a knackered back and there's also no mention of him being expected to do SYP's job for them when they do their usual disappearing act.

 

[PeteBlade]

Their No 23 needs an invoice for the NHS and SYP bill.

Perhaps he could go halves with the Kraut cunt over settling it.

People who get that angry at a bit of play acting should pay the bills of the people they hit rather than absolve themselves of blame and blame what happened on the pitch instead.

 

[SB_90]

Fucking shameful post. Absolutely shameful.

unfortunately yes it is & unfortunately no one want to see it. or have this discussion. as in ideal world we all want to go home. after having a great day out. but after that sort of Match which was very angry. the referee needed a police/steward escort off the pitch for god sake, goalie & 23 threw more petrol on the bonfire at full time by inciting the fans.

when you have 2500 utd fans & 2500 norwich fans all exiting. like in any walk of life it minority that spoils it & tars the majority you cant tell me. them 5000 are not angels & all it took when emotions were high was 1 utd fan out of 5000 taunting the wrong norwich fan or other way 1 norwich fan out of 5000 goading the wrong utd fan & that ticking timebomb was going to kick off

we will have to agree to disagree. as we nust go around in circles

 

[Bladesman]

Funny they say that when there were about six police officers stood at the bottom of H block the South Stand all game.

I know it's not many, but to say there was no police presence is false.

It's not like the SYP to lie.

 

[Sean Thornton]

have you ever heard the story about the Good Samaritan?

Levite.

He'll leave it if you will.....

 

[Stretch]

Is this the guy that applauded the away fans rather than leave the pitch after going down injured. It was at that point I felt the atmosphere turn very hostile

Yep, the same. It all got very nasty at that point.

 

[alcoblade]

Why don't the police hold the visiting fans back and escort them to the buses ,trains. Parents with kids should be kept well away from visiting fans.

I'm fairly sure it's a human rights issue - no really!

They have to have special cause for concern to do it. And it really is in sue ial cases.

 

[prince albert]

have you ever heard the story about the Good Samaritan?

Levite.

we were playing Norwich not Spurs .............................

 

[Rodders]

I'm fairly sure it's a human rights issue - no really!

They have to have special cause for concern to do it. And it really is in sue ial cases.

Exactly - and so it should be. Why should anyone be locked in a building not of their own free will? Plod should be further up BL, definitely but ultimately the problem is with braindead cunts not being able to control themselves.

 

[alcoblade]

Exactly - and so it should be. Why should anyone be locked in a building not of their own free will? Plod should be further up BL, definitely but ultimately the problem is with braindead cunts not being able to control themselves.

I think it's ridiculous, personally. It was absolutely guaranteed to go off at Sunderland. A 5 minute wait would have avoided it.

Pretending this can be tackled by mass outrage at those who commit it is just naive. There's the world as we want it, and the world we have to deal with.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

There's the world as we want it, and the world we have to deal with.

But the world is only as it is because these knobsticks don't get dealt with properly - the police aren't around, if they do arrest anyone they probably won't get charged, if they do they get little more than a slap on the wrist. There isn't a never ending supply of these morons, if enough of them are prevented from attending the match then there will be no, or nearly no, trouble. Why should everyone else suffer just to prevent these idiots from doing what they want (and sometimes plan) to do?

 

[alcoblade]

But the world is only as it is because these knobsticks don't get dealt with properly - the police aren't around, if they do arrest anyone they probably won't get charged, if they do they get little more than a slap on the wrist. There isn't a never ending supply of these morons, if enough of them are prevented from attending the match then there will be no, or nearly no, trouble. Why should everyone else suffer just to prevent these idiots from doing what they want (and sometimes plan) to do?

If people think hanging back 5 minutes is really suffering, then there's an ocean between how I and they see the world.

No method of policing would have avoided the Sunderland situation. "Suffering" a 5 minute wait (ironically we ended up being forced to wait for about 15 minutes) would have avoided it.

Some people's human rights, and how easily they can be abused, are uttterly absurd to me.

 

[raul]

If people think hanging back 5 minutes is really suffering, then there's an ocean between how I and they see the world.

No method of policing would have avoided the Sunderland situation. "Suffering" a 5 minute wait (ironically we ended up being forced to wait for about 15 minutes) would have avoided it.

Some people's human rights, and how easily they can be abused, are uttterly absurd to me.

What was the Sunderland situation??

 

[Rodders]

If people think hanging back 5 minutes is really suffering, then there's an ocean between how I and they see the world.

No method of policing would have avoided the Sunderland situation. "Suffering" a 5 minute wait (ironically we ended up being forced to wait for about 15 minutes) would have avoided it.

Some people's human rights, and how easily they can be abused, are uttterly absurd to me.

It's not the hanging around for 5 mins per se that's the issue for me, it's the fact that these bellends get no consequences and everyone else just has to put up with it.

 

[mosbolad]

What was the Sunderland situation??

I'm unsure of the relevance but Sunderland is situated
54.8862° N, 1.4786° W

I hope this helps..........

 

[vorpal blade]

OK, if keeping the Norwich fans in for 5 minutes constitutes involuntary imprisonment, and I'm not convinced it does (is sue ial Latin for something or is it a predictive text misfire?) then aren't there other measures, for instance, parking the buses on the side right next to the stand (facing UP the hill) although I can see that feeling VERY cramped or just stopping home supporters walking down Bramall Lane between Harwood St and John Street?

 

[WhiteHawk]

 

[Sean Thornton]

CORRECTION

We lied about the Hillsborough disaster.

 

[Hugh Nitedite]

Personally think its ridiculous to use the human rights argument to prevent keeping away fans in for an extra 10 mins which would prevent (to a large degree) these confrontations. I remember back in the seventies being quite happy to be kept in.
The health and safety of departing fans should surely override in this situation .
On a purely practical note, why cant they park the coaches on the other side of the road closer to the ground and position stewards at the ends, this would make it a short step for away fans to get into the coaches and at the same time create a natural barrier between home and away supporters