Genuine Question

[GC88]

A decent amount of millers fans who went at the time it was first used.

 

[Foxy]

A decent amount of millers fans who went at the time it was first used.

What, these ones who you asked a short time ago? - http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=450&fid=215&sty=2&act=1&mid=2121917698

 

[Slugger]

That's nothing like our song. For a start our 5th line is "Like a night out in Sheffield" not "Like a night out in Rotherham" Absolute bollocks to suggest we copied them.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Magnet was produced in Sheffield hence the link. It sounds very flimsy to me and the fact that the only link is to wiki just proves it.

Those lads in our A Force should be making up their own new songs.

 

[Slugger]

What, these ones who you asked a short time ago? - http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=450&fid=215&sty=2&act=1&mid=2121917698

Ther's someone on that board who helpfully explains what a greasy chip butty is!!


"Butty is a slang word for a sandwich, and a chip butty is simply..."

Priceless!

 

[GC88]

What, these ones who you asked a short time ago? - http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=450&fid=215&sty=2&act=1&mid=2121917698

Partly but I have been asking every Rotherham supporter I know as I spend a lot of time around there as well as the Rotherham fans I know who live nearby and at work.

 

[GC88]

Magnet was produced in Sheffield hence the link. It sounds very flimsy to me and the fact that the only link is to wiki just proves it.

Those lads in our A Force should be making up their own new songs.

The lyrics on there aren't quite right.

 

[Foxy]

Partly but I have been asking every Rotherham supporter I know as I spend a lot of time around there as well as the Rotherham fans I know who live nearby and at work.

I'll ask a few at work tomorrow if you'd like a bigger cross-section?

Out of interest, how does asking some of their fans if we nicked a song, confirm we did?

The origins have never been properly confirmed, but have often been argued with people claiming they were the first and with stories of who created it.

 

[Linz]

So you want to get rid of something which is seen as "our" song to replace it with...

du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du?

As Duncan Bannatyne would say: sorry, I'm ooot.

 

[GC88]

So you want to get rid of something which is seen as "our" song to replace it with...

du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du?

As Duncan Bannatyne would say: sorry, I'm ooot.

Who is that directed at?

 

[GC88]

I'll ask a few at work tomorrow if you'd like a bigger cross-section?

Out of interest, how does asking some of their fans if we nicked a song, confirm we did?

The origins have never been properly confirmed, but have often been argued with people claiming they were the first and with stories of who created it.

a few at work isn't really extensive research as I have done in and around Rotherham as well as exiled Rotherham fans and the ones on the link you have posted.

They all know they started it but united fans struggle to take it when suggested it's not a blades song and that it was copied but united have a history of incorrectly claiming songs.

 

[Foxy]

a few at work isn't really extensive research as I have done in and around Rotherham as well as exiled Rotherham fans and the ones on the link you have posted.

Given that two of them are retired ex-pro's and theres more than enough lifetime Millers that are nearing retirement age, I'd imagine they'll have a good idea

It's also handy, that my work is indeed in Rotherham.

If you'd like, I'll try and ask Ronnie Moore to do some digging at work too, I normally bump into him wednesday dinner times

I'm not saying you're wrong, merely suggesting that you can't claim to confirm it based on a post on Rotherham United Mad and your "extensive research".

Ask plenty of United fans and they "know they started it", where is the difference?

 

[bladesman1889]

Given that two of them are retired ex-pro's and theres more than enough lifetime Millers that are nearing retirement age, I'd imagine they'll have a good idea

It's also handy, that my work is indeed in Rotherham.

If you'd like, I'll try and ask Ronnie Moore to do some digging at work too, I normally bump into him wednesday dinner times

I'm not saying you're wrong, merely suggesting that you can't claim to confirm it based on a post on Rotherham United Mad and your "extensive research".

Ask plenty of United fans and they "know they started it", where is the difference?

This is another utterly pointless argument you've gotten into.

 

[GC88]

I don't really think pros are the people to ask - I doubt many of them know the words to their teams fans songs.

No united fan can say they started it because it wasn't originally a united song.

My research is more extensive than on Rotherham mad and asked people from all over Rotherham and all say the same.

 

[Foxy]

This is another utterly pointless argument you've gotten into.

Sorry, I thought the whole point of a discussion was to actually discuss something?

I'm not arguing, I'm merely asking how GC88 has "confirmation".

"Confirmation" on this issue is something that has been lacking in my entire lifetime, for this reason if some has come to the fore, I'm interested to learn of it.

Which other "utterly pointless arguments" am I paying to host?

 

[GC88]

My confirmation comes from the Rotherham supporters.

 

[Foxy]

My confirmation comes from the Rotherham supporters.

...and therefore I'd give it as much credence as confirmation from Sheffield United supporters, and so the debate continues for another few years

So if I understand correctly, your point is, that according to Rotherham fans we stole the song now famously linked with Sheffield United and modified the words to fit with our club?

How does this relate badly to us stealing songs that others are also stealing and are already famously linked with(and even named after) other European clubs?

 

[bladesman1889]

Sorry, I thought the whole point of a discussion was to actually discuss something?

I'm not arguing, I'm merely asking how GC88 has "confirmation".

"Confirmation" on this issue is something that has been lacking in my entire lifetime, for this reason if some has come to the fore, I'm interested to learn of it.

Which other "utterly pointless arguments" am I paying to host?

Just saying...you were arguing about which categories United fans are the other week, all seems very pedantic and pointless to me...but do carry on of course !

 

[Foxy]

Just saying...you were arguing about which categories United fans are the other week, all seems very pedantic and pointless to me...but do carry on of course !

I'm sorry, but I'll argue until I'm blue in the face about people appointing themselves spokesmen of who are and who aren't "worthy" United fans.

You might find it pedantic that I dislike people being categorised and slagged off by people that know nothing of them, but I don't.

If you don't want to read it, feel free to ignore it, but a discussion board becomes a bit pointless if people don't discuss differing opinions.

 

[Linz]

Just saying...you were arguing about which categories United fans are the other week, all seems very pedantic and pointless to me...but do carry on of course !

Chuffing hell, he's been here two weeks and someone's made him boss already

There is the option, as with all threads, not to read things you are not interested in. Personally, I can't stand cricket. But if people want to talk about it, it's up to them. I don't go round telling them that their discussion is pointless and to stop them talking about it just to appease myself.

There is also the option to start threads about topics you want to discuss... without having to go on the threads that you aren't interested in, just to tell us that you aren't interested in them.

The recurring theme in this thread seems to be "live and let live". People will sing what they want. And as long as they're on this forum, they can discuss what they want, as long as it's within the realms of our very relaxed rules. If the discussions do wander out of those boundaries, then it is up to Foxy and/or myself to put our members back on track.

We do not censor discussion. Nor do we expect our members to turn round and start telling other members what they can or cannot talk about.

For the last five years, this ethos has worked pretty well and we have attracted a group of people who all have a sense of humour and while having differing opinions, tend to debate them with eloquence rather than slanging matches.

Sorry to pull rank on you Sonny Jim... but thems the breaks.

 

[bladesman1889]

erm....a bit of an overreaction methinks...chuffing hell, I won't say anything in future :/

why do you think I'm trying to censor discussion? that's a bizarre thing to say.

 

[GC88]

The Rotherham fans are unanimous that it's their song.

United didn't really modify the words extensively.

United fans have a history of claiming to be the first team to use a song when it's not true.

 

[beechblade]

And the United fans are unanimous that its 'our' song.

That arguement swings both ways. But does it matter because they can say what they like, it is still us that are more famously linked with it in the end, even if we did adopt it we made it our own.

And as stated every other team has a history of claiming that this song was their song first when it's not true either, all clubs do it.

 

[SwissBlade]

Thanks GC88!

And there was I, thinking that you'd dazzle with me with a historical record of fact. But instead you ran an off the cuff poll on a few lads that you know from Rotherham and they unanimously agreed it was Rotherham that thought it up.

I've done a poll here in my office this morning on Neutrals and after I told them that the GCB was a Blades song, they all agreed that it was a Blades song. In fact I can back this up with statistics... 100% agreed it was a Blades song. Maybe someone could put it into a pie chart for me to demonstrate the facts.

United fans have a history of claiming to be the first team to use a song when it's not true.

Could you also back this up with actual facts as well...

 

[Linz]

I've done a poll here in my office this morning on Neutrals and after I told them that the GCB was a Blades song, they all agreed that it was a Blades song. In fact I can back this up with statistics... 100% agreed it was a Blades song. Maybe someone could put it into a pie chart for me to demonstrate the facts.

Swiss.

Perhaps you'd like to get them to vote on our poll: http://www.s24su.com/showthread.php?18467-GCB-ours-or-Rotherham-s

This is 100% scientific based on a calculated statistical sample that is also completely non-biased.

I imagine I shall be able to publish the results in some sort of journal with the phrase "FACT" tagged on the end. I might even edit Wikipedia.

That should settle it once and for all

 

[SwissBlade]

Linz - If we had a Thanks button I'd say thanks, but we don't so I can't

Thanks anyway (in a replica thanks button way)

 

[Grecian2000]

"The inspiration for great songs can arrive while being in the unlikeliest of places. John Denver reveals how this classic song came to him while travelling up a mountain in a ski lift!"

So, as it's really John Denvers song, the only question really is:

Was he a Blade or a Miller?

I would have thought ALL football songs are nicked from some sort of original and the words changed in a novel and amusing way to fit your club. However, songs with no words mean fuck all to anyone that's why no-one feels any attachment to them.

 

[SwissBlade]

However, songs with no words mean fuck all to anyone that's why no-one feels any attachment to them.

Unless of course they're European! Then they create vibrancy in a way only the modern support would understand!

Didn't you see how good the lyric-less Eurovision songs can sound on YouTube? I'm surprised if you didn't, the club officially endorsed one such song on the OS

But is a song without Lyrics enough I hear you ask, Oh no, You need Colour in the form of Flags and banners, Big ones, with huges wooden poles, you need to bounce up and down and you need Flares (nobodys been daft enough to mention them on here yet).

Then and only then will it mean something to us

 

[JJ Sefton]

Partly but I have been asking every Rotherham supporter I know as I spend a lot of time around there as well as the Rotherham fans I know who live nearby and at work.

Arsenal fans are a bunch of twats. I know that for a fact because I asked every Spurs fan I know...

 

[super_pig]

wtf is dale calavese.. is he one of the three tenors?.. if it's a pig song then we shouldn't be singing it.. i don't care how nice it is etc.. like everton don't sing never walk alone.. anyways i was previously a proponent of this singing section malarkey but i've decided its a dumb idea.. i'm frankly sick of being told when and how to do what when and where..like the bit where they play the first ten bars of annies song.. it makes me cringe.. i don't need some moron to tell me when to sing anything thanks.. reminds me of these european teams where they have some monkey hanging on the front of the section encouraging everyone to sing.. they never actually watch the game do they!
best singing memory.. never walk alone for whole of first half.. half time and half of second half.. grimsby away.. 1981(ish).. a copper turned to us and said in thirty years he'd never seen anything like it <sob>
rotherham invented GCB.. heh.. the words have been changed gc.. if they are the words that you based your argument on then you aren't aware of the original version