I wrote a huge rant in this thread last night, but I deleted it because it got a bit nasty. These kids are really starting to wind me up. They can tell me how to support the club when they've lived 325 miles from Sheffield and missed rent payments to be able to afford to make the 650 mile round trip to watch us get relegated, amongst other things.
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The GCB song was stolen so effectively from Rotherham that on my (admittedly few) trips to Millmoor in my youth I never once heard the Millers fans singing it. We must have knocked it completely out of their heads.
Never heard it at the Auto Windscreens Final in 1996 either, and given every living Millers fan was presumably present at that game you'd have expected to hear it...
For those of us who think everything was better in the old days - check out old MOTD's and Big Match from 70's and 80's and just about every crowd can be heard singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" at somepoint so todays copycatting still has some way to go to match that.
I was certainly sung at the Lane. I think it stopped in the late 80s for some reason.
Never heard it at the Auto Windscreens Final in 1996 either, and given every living Millers fan was presumably present at that game you'd have expected to hear it...
For those of us who think everything was better in the old days - check out old MOTD's and Big Match from 70's and 80's and just about every crowd can be heard singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" at somepoint so todays copycatting still has some way to go to match that.
I was certainly sung at the Lane. I think it stopped in the late 80s for some reason.
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To be perfectly honest who really bloody cares whose song it is, if it creates atmosphere I don't care.
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So in terms of positive PR then, this thread has been another winner...
Quite a few of these singing section advocates seem to be suggesting that supporting the team is something which is brand new and they should receive kudos for thinking of such an innovative idea. And on certain other sites, where the memberbase is generally younger and perhaps in terms of support, newer, it has been welcomed with some aplomb. Because for the X-Factor generation, nothing says fun like being the centre of attention.
A lot of the older Blades say that this is a load of old bobbins. You only have to look at the retro thread from yesterday to see that groups of people getting together with flags and t-shirts and running mini-buses to away matches is as old as the hills. Can't fault your enthusiasm chaps, but when you have "been there, done that"... it is a little Pope's dead, if you get my meaning.
If you want to ape Italian football, knock yourselves out. You've got your little section, go mad.
But if this thread is anything to go by, you're not going to attract the arse-licking following you seem to want to recruit and especially not with the level of reasoning and debate the advocates seem to possess, as evident in this thread and others.
By all means continue, like I said, we don't censor the forum. But can't you see that you're just turning a lot of people off?
I am trying to be tactful, but it is becoming increasingly difficult.
Quite a few of these singing section advocates seem to be suggesting that supporting the team is something which is brand new and they should receive kudos for thinking of such an innovative idea. And on certain other sites, where the memberbase is generally younger and perhaps in terms of support, newer, it has been welcomed with some aplomb. Because for the X-Factor generation, nothing says fun like being the centre of attention.
A lot of the older Blades say that this is a load of old bobbins. You only have to look at the retro thread from yesterday to see that groups of people getting together with flags and t-shirts and running mini-buses to away matches is as old as the hills. Can't fault your enthusiasm chaps, but when you have "been there, done that"... it is a little Pope's dead, if you get my meaning.
If you want to ape Italian football, knock yourselves out. You've got your little section, go mad.
But if this thread is anything to go by, you're not going to attract the arse-licking following you seem to want to recruit and especially not with the level of reasoning and debate the advocates seem to possess, as evident in this thread and others.
By all means continue, like I said, we don't censor the forum. But can't you see that you're just turning a lot of people off?
I am trying to be tactful, but it is becoming increasingly difficult.
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I have been told this was a Rotherham song (as i put earlier) but i don't understand how you can do research on it. I've found Wikipedia, highly unreliable, and that is it. I've never been to a Rotherham match so i can't go around saying that they sing it all the time.
This is just small club syndrome. The bigger club sing a song we might have sung a few years back, we shall claim it as ours and then not sing it ever but still fight to the death over the orgins of it.
This is just small club syndrome. The bigger club sing a song we might have sung a few years back, we shall claim it as ours and then not sing it ever but still fight to the death over the orgins of it.
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You've got completely the wrong end of the stick, why do you think people are telling you how to support the club? Calling the people in the singing section 'kids' is also very patronising and a silly generalisation.
Would you prefer the atmopshere to remain the same as it has been this season? Because it's not going to improve without a singing section of some sort. Many other similar sized clubs have one- Coventry, WBA, Derby, Forest & Boro to name a few- so I don't see why people would be against it.
super_pig- Dale Cavese isn't a pig song, they've never sung it. It comes originally from Italy but it's used throughout Europe now. It's just something a bit different to the current songs and it's catchy. Again, nobody is telling you how or when to support the team. All this singing section is, for me anyway, is getting together a group of like-minded supporters who want to try and improve the atmopshere in BL on matchdays. If there's a section where all the songs are started off from then hopefully the rest of the kop and ground will join in from there. I just cannot understand all the negativity and pessimism towards the idea, it's very disappointing to see.
And linz, that's quite an ignorant post. Like too many others, you're generalising and categorising the fans in the singing section. I've looked on bladesmad and asked on vitalfootball, on both sites there's widespread approval for it from old and young users. It's not just the younger fans who participate and support this idea, so please don't assume it is.
I have exposed another chant - "we are bladesmen" is a mere adaptation of a section of the famous millwall hooligans chant "no one likes us".
I'd just like to know what the critics of copying songs of other teams think about two of the clubs anthems being stolen also hence them being no different to the dale chant and ole ole ola etc.
I'd just like to know what the critics of copying songs of other teams think about two of the clubs anthems being stolen also hence them being no different to the dale chant and ole ole ola etc.
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I think Rod Stewart might have something to say about that.
SwissBlade
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You're punching above your weight now GC88! Minor point though, can you back this up?
Again, in case you missed it in earlier posts with regards to ripping off other team's songs
bad - no words or link to the Blades
good - when they get adapted to the Blades
better - they're witty and Blades related
So back to this one... can you back this up, or is it an unusually wild statement not based on fact?
shorehamview
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"We are Bladesmen" or "No-one likes us" and all the other varieties are derived from "We Are Sailing" by Sir Roderick Of Stewart.
And if The Greasy Chip Butty song is to be claimed by Rotherham fans they may as well claim to have written "You'll Never Walk Alone", "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" and the Magna Carta.
As for songs with no words, how the fuck do you sing them? Unless you can do a perfect impression of a violin or a trumpet then what's the fucking point?
And if The Greasy Chip Butty song is to be claimed by Rotherham fans they may as well claim to have written "You'll Never Walk Alone", "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" and the Magna Carta.
As for songs with no words, how the fuck do you sing them? Unless you can do a perfect impression of a violin or a trumpet then what's the fucking point?
Why is it? How many of them are older than 25?
I'm 27 by the way, I'm still only a kid myself.
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in 24 hours I have proven the bob booker song and we are bladesmen aren't sufc originals and serious doubt about the greasy chip butty song(in my opinion proven it's not united also.
@shorehamview
I'm not claiming they created the melody but they were the first to adapt it. A chant with no words can be used to boost and sustain atmosphere/noise level and a way of celebrating a goal/victory and are much more enjoyable to participate. United back these chants so if you don't you are against united.
in 24 hours I have proven the bob booker song and we are bladesmen aren't sufc originals and serious doubt about the greasy chip butty song(in my opinion proven it's not united also.
@shorehamview
I'm not claiming they created the melody but they were the first to adapt it. A chant with no words can be used to boost and sustain atmosphere/noise level and a way of celebrating a goal/victory and are much more enjoyable to participate. United back these chants so if you don't you are against united.
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Woo... I definitely fit into the "kid" bracket then.
And feeling the ache in my joints, I don't find that patronising at all
I'm quite flattered.
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I do hope you're not planning for a career in law. I can say with confidence right now that if you are, you're not going to be very good at it.
shorehamview
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A chant with no words is more of a mime really. It needs words, even if they are woah woah.
And saying something is true isn't the same as proving it.
Can you prove that?
shorehamview
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Shit yeah. All of my writings are based on solid fact. Especially the ones about Christa Ackroyd and the gimp mask.
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The problem is, your evidence seems to consist of you just saying so
This is why the thread reach "pointless" level.
You no listen!
shorehamview
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Let's have it then please. According to Bob Booker he got the ooh-ahs before Cantona. Unless of course council for the prosecution can prove different.
GCB is "widely known" to be ours.
So you admit that you ARE telling people how to support the club? Nice.
Bob booker did get the ooh ah before cantona.
But the oops outside your head song was released in 79, mufc used it for Paul McGrath who was there from 82-89 - booker only signed for united in 89 and mufc had been singing it long before.
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May I present to the court, exhibit A.
http://www.s24su.com/showthread.php?17739-Singing-Section-at-the-lane&p=241163&viewfull=1#post241163
I'd say... not many.
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