Genuine Question

[Foxy]

they're not being told or forced to do anything but there's definitely 'anti-singing section' feelings on here.

Again, if you'd read, even back to the first time a singing section was mooted, it's more actually 'anti-certain people's disrespectful attitudes towards others' feelings.

This continues to be consistantly be misunderstood and argued, resulting in the further diluting and misunderstanding of the original point and annoyance, and looks set to continue in circles

 

[GC88]

But if it was their 'invention' and had relevance to their club or their town, surely they'd sing it like we do?

It was supposedly brought to united by Rotherham based blades who knew about the song from Rotherham United.

I don't know the extent to which it was used by the millers.

 

[shorehamview]

The atmosphere at the Lane has often been rather quiet in recent months. This might be due to the football on view. If you want to sing, then do. It seems there is a bit of a schism between the two sides of the kop, in so much as two different songs are being sung at the same time. So what. I've nothing against people who want to shout and sing all day long. I used to do the same. I don't now, partly because half a lifetime of Marlboro's makes me cough like hell when I sing for any length of time. But don't slag me off if I don't join in. I've nothing against people who wear colours every match, or buy badges to festoon their garb. Just because I choose not to doesn't make me less of a Blade than the others. Every poster on here will have a story of how much they have endured supporting United, and the stories will all be like their support. Different, but no less valid for that difference.

Just don't tell me when to sing, or what colours to wear, or what badges to buy, or what mentality to have. Because I'll instruct you on the delights of, as DuncDisorderly succinctly put it, sex and travel.

 

[Foxy]

I don't know the extent to which it was used by the millers.

Wouldn't your extensive questioning of Rotherham people and fans who would know have kind of brought that up? or was the research actually just restricted to a couple of message boards after all?

By the way GC88, you aren't "suffering" because you dared to "question the origin" of GCB.

You were merely asked to provide a solid source of such confirmation, given that you seem to be the first to have apparently confirmed it

Sadly, when you proclaim things to be true, sometimes people question you or give their own opinion - rather than just appointing you gospel

 

[Blades_257]

It was supposedly brought to united by Rotherham based blades who knew about the song from Rotherham United.

I don't know the extent to which it was used by the millers.

Until there's facts (and obviously they'll be hard to obtain) this debate won't end.

Personally I really doubt it originated from Rotherham, because if it did it'd be notorious as they'd sing it regularly. Maybe it was used in a small capacity by them somewhere along the line and we took it and enhanced it. But I'm just speculating.

Ask any fan in the country though about the GCB song and the only club they'd mention is Sheffield United as we're the only club the song is synonymous with.

 

[Linz]

:hello: Bladesmad by the way.

Yes, for some reason, GC88 doesn't like us. Apparently the people who post on here are not "proper supporters". He said it on Bladesmad though. He's only brave enough to say it in a roundabout way on here.

Perhaps this proclamation from him in mind, you will understand why certain people aren't exactly too keen to kiss his arse.

Best wishes

Linz xxx

 

[GC88]

A series of inaccurate quotes and accusations.

 

[Foxy]

A series of inaccurate quotes and accusations.

They were indeed. I might look them out when I'm back from footy if i'm feeling particularly petty.

 

[bladesman1889]

Did I even say you?

Erm... nope.

If you actually read the thread, it was samcunliff. Again, you jump to assumptions.

You quoted me and asked who the first was to spit the dummy out- surely you can see why I thought it was aimed at me

Everyone has the right to their own opinion and, as I have said before, you aren't going to change it by posting as you have in this thread. I'm not trying to change your minds. You're all set on this singing and dancing business. Go for it.

OK then...I may as well never debate anything if I'm never going to change anyone's minds! Why do these politicians bother :lol: :lol:

I only wanted to see why people disapprove of this section and why all the bad feeling- I understand nobody is trying to prevent it happening.

And as you've referred to me as "ignorant", "hypocritical" and now "patronising" I don't think it's remiss of me to say that you're annoying the tits off me. And that's without you being stood there twirling a bit of wool at me chanting non-verbal noises at me akin to those of a baby who cannot yet speak.

Maybe that annoys you but maybe you should rethink how you come across to some people.

Of course you are, just like I'm allowed to say that if the advocates in this thread are anything to go by, I would have to repeat myself ten times whilst trying to have a conversation with them because they are too cloth-eared to actually listen to what is being said. Probably best I'm nothing to do with the singing section because my patience, while expansive, does have an upper limit.

Just a point, I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "patronising".

I've simply read everything you've written and responded. I can't understand the bad feelings and why you're growing impatient.

Just a point, that last statement is quite ironic don't you think? And you don't have to explain that one to me thanks...

 

[Mousey]

A series of inaccurate quotes and accusations.

Yes they are, so when are you going to prove them correct?

 

[GC88]

Ask any fan in the country though about the GCB song and the only club they'd mention is Sheffield United as we're the only club the song is synonymous with.

exactly.

Which is what disappoints me when people say that the ring of fire chant and some of the other proposed ones are unimaginative copies when the clubs main anthem is possibly one and another one of the best songs at the club is an adaptation of another teams song.

There isn't anything wrong with using a chant and making it 'ours'.

 

[bladesman1889]

No, there's an anti-being pestered to fuck about 'singing' wanky Italian 'songs' feeling on here.

No one has said anything about the singing section being bad.

Nobody's pestering you to sing these songs, and...

anyways i was previously a proponent of this singing section malarkey but i've decided its a dumb idea..

 

[moDtheGod]

How can you make it "ours" though unless you modify it? Until; you modify it, you're just copying.

 

[bladesman1889]

Again, if you'd read, even back to the first time a singing section was mooted, it's more actually 'anti-certain people's disrespectful attitudes towards others' feelings.

This continues to be consistantly be misunderstood and argued, resulting in the further diluting and misunderstanding of the original point and annoyance, and looks set to continue in circles

So why is Linz getting so angry with me when I've been nothing like disrespectful when discussing the SS?

 

[Zinedine]

Ole, Ole, Ole Ola:
We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades,
We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades,
Woooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh SHEFF UNITED
The Best in the World, The Best in the World

That good enough for "NO WORDS ARGUMENT"

 

[bladesman1889]

The atmosphere at the Lane has often been rather quiet in recent months. This might be due to the football on view. If you want to sing, then do. It seems there is a bit of a schism between the two sides of the kop, in so much as two different songs are being sung at the same time. So what. I've nothing against people who want to shout and sing all day long. I used to do the same. I don't now, partly because half a lifetime of Marlboro's makes me cough like hell when I sing for any length of time. But don't slag me off if I don't join in. I've nothing against people who wear colours every match, or buy badges to festoon their garb. Just because I choose not to doesn't make me less of a Blade than the others. Every poster on here will have a story of how much they have endured supporting United, and the stories will all be like their support. Different, but no less valid for that difference.

Just don't tell me when to sing, or what colours to wear, or what badges to buy, or what mentality to have. Because I'll instruct you on the delights of, as DuncDisorderly succinctly put it, sex and travel.

Good post.

 

[Linz]

A series of inaccurate quotes and accusations.

O Rly?

LINK

Yet more nonsense from bob.

A number of them made the decision to ridicule the idea a while ago (aug 09) only for them to end up being humiliated when the response from the club, players and management appears to be 100% positive.

The comments on that topic are those of bitter, ignorant people who cannot distinguish between fan and supporter and couldn't take it when it was suggested some people are not content with being mere reactive supporters. The section as brought new enjoyment and excitement to some fans yet has been made out be a segregated area full of chavs, kids etc. and when suggested that anyone who is against these people and the section doesn't deserve to be associated with united they reacted adversely due to their bladeness being brought into question.

It wasn't a bigger blade debate, it was hopefully an education in how people want to vocally support the team no matter what - and don't just sing when we're winning - which appears to be the mentality of some on there. It is a total fact that the former are better supporters than the latter and yet again they struggled to come to terms with it.

Can't search back to August 09 lovey, can't be arsed.

But I'd like to know who was "humiliated"?

 

[DazBlade88]

Why can't we all just get along? :cry2:

 

[Linz]

Why can't we all just get along? :cry2:

Piss off

 

[jacknat]

porterfield out!!

 

[shorehamview]

Good post.

That's because I'm fucking great.

Piss off

Okay Mum. Pissing off now.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

exactly.

Which is what disappoints me when people say that the ring of fire chant and some of the other proposed ones are unimaginative copies when the clubs main anthem is possibly one and another one of the best songs at the club is an adaptation of another teams song.

There isn't anything wrong with using a chant and making it 'ours'.

No there isn't but there is something wrong with trying to divide our fans into them and us.

 

[SwissBlade]

Crikey you lot have been busy!

United fans have a history of claiming to be the first team to use a song when it's not true.

@ swissblade

in 24 hours I have proven the bob booker song and we are bladesmen aren't sufc originals and serious doubt about the greasy chip butty song(in my opinion proven it's not united also.

No you haven't proven anything, other than you can't prove anything. So i'll concede you've proven that.

Wheres your facts?

Was it the operations director who spoke about the cavese chant - someone who is a big part of the club.

The tom hark song is just played by the dj.

It's his career so isn't "prawn sarnie" - it's clear he understands more than some fans.

Yes Simon Argall. Looking at his CV, I'm not even sure he's from Sheffield. He's at the club for commercial reasons, so of course he's going to back these things. Its his arse on the line to increase revenue across all Blades Business streams

I'm not sure him being our ops director means that he understands more than some fans (shouldn't that be supporters)

The DJ being Gary Sinclair.

I think they have other 'anthems'.

I don't get it. You're so sure (you confirmed it) that the GCB was a Rotherham song, yet you weren't around when it was first sung... and you only 'think' they have other 'anthems'

Finally you talk about people being against the club because they don't back the Singing Section. However, you talk about standing in this section for 90 mins and a quick glance of your posts on Bladesmad shows that you're offering advice to others on how to smuggle smoke bombs into the lane.

So before you throw the question at others being against the club, perhaps you should have a look at yourself

To answer your question from Bladesmad as to why they don't have a place at football matches
You obviously weren't at Forest away last game of the season back in 93 (I think) when we sent them down. A Blade had a flare there, held it for a while but then decided to disgard it, resulting in the flare burning a kid.

 

[GC88]

I'm tired of this debate and apologise if I have offended anyone.

 

[GC88]

Ole, Ole, Ole Ola:
We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades,
We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades, We're Blades,
Woooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh SHEFF UNITED
The Best in the World, The Best in the World

That good enough for "NO WORDS ARGUMENT"

What is that?

Ignore the comments about no words - it's ok as it was.

 

[JJ Sefton]

@ swissblade

in 24 hours I have proven the bob booker song and we are bladesmen aren't sufc originals and serious doubt about the greasy chip butty song(in my opinion proven it's not united also.

@shorehamview

I'm not claiming they created the melody but they were the first to adapt it. A chant with no words can be used to boost and sustain atmosphere/noise level and a way of celebrating a goal/victory and are much more enjoyable to participate. United back these chants so if you don't you are against united.

I smell

 

[bricktop]

You mean like this...[video=youtube;L-1BUmbdC9A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-1BUmbdC9A[/video]

Brilliant, absolutely fucking brilliant.

 

[SwissBlade]

I'm tired of this debate and apologise if I have offended anyone.

No offence taken by me GC88, its all banter!

 

[bricktop]

To be honest this thread is comedy cold.

To surmise.

The older United supporters who don't paticularly sing much at games are the Sarnie Army

Dale Cavese is an original song.

The songs we have been singing for years are nicked off other clubs

Based on a scientfic and forensic case study Annie's Song is not a Blades song but a Rotherham song.

Stop the world, i'm getting off

 

[Linz]

The older United supporters who don't paticularly sing much at games are the Sarnie Army

You're not allowed to say that brownie, as people young and old love the singing section and all those who sail in her (apart from those who can't follow logical arguments or actually read what people have said, of course.)

You're generalising by saying those who want the singing section are younger and those who think it's a "bit daft but each to their own and all that" are older. This is despite the fact that many people have listed their age in this thread and those generalisations, as generalisations tend to be, are generally true.

You might be interested to learn that someone received short shrift somewhere else too....