Fuck me...

[MAQ]

Might be best if you don't run a forum then

hmmmmmmmm...............RED RAG & BULL come to mind

 

[RaWW]

As someone said early in this thread not every person is the same. Some people get far too wound up by what other people think. Do some people really want the stadium to be full of people who think the exact same, talk about the same things, see the game the exact same way. I hope not cos that would be the most boring thing I could imagine at football.

When we lose regardless of how we've played I am pissed off, I am absolutely gutted, I feel like my insides have been torn out and I just can't bear to think about the game cos it reminds me of how pissed off I was/am.

This is just the way I am, and the way that a lot of other people are. I'm not having a dig Linz but whilst you were playing with Barbies and dressing up as a fairy I was playing football, watching football. I can't remember a point in my life when football wasn't everything to me. A lot of people who know me (outside the SUFC family) and they just can't understand how much I love football, and especially SUFC. When you go home after the game you've got things like ironing and washing up to think about when the boys just carry on thinking about football. ( that last sentence was a joke!!)

I hate everything about the team when we lose and I feel like shouting my mouth off, but in a few days I'll have calmed down and the whole thing starts again.

I can understand why people post things after a game that seem extremely harsh but what i can't seem to get my head around is when people are nit picking through other peoples posts and try to catch them out, that is a bit dirty and underhand if you ask me.

Everyone has a right to an opinion and everyone has a right to give theirs.

I wish I could come home from a defeat and be in a jolly mood just cos I watched the game, but I can't, I never have been able to and never will be able to.

 

[Linz]

So, just so I have this straight... everyone should be entitled to their opinions apart from me?

Me having my comment on other people's opinions amounts to nit picking and is dirty and underhand yet you having your say on my opinions stands up as some beaming light of reason?

People coming home and shouting their mouth off about the football is fine yet people coming home and whinging about the conduct of their fellow fans is not?

And because I happen to be female, my love for football can somehow be discounted with a cheap jibe about Barbies? (yeah... I never had one but stereotype all you want.)

 

[matth]

It does seem a little - as last season, when Robson was in charge - that there are certain people on here who are more concerned with what their fellow supporters are getting up to than what's going on with the club.

I don't agree with most of the drivel that BeightonBlade posts, but at least it's mainly directed at the club - the players, the manager and the chairman - rather than what other people do or do not do at matches or on fora.

 

[MAQ]

and there it goes !!

 

[Foxy]

As someone said early in this thread not every person is the same. Some people get far too wound up by what other people think. Do some people really want the stadium to be full of people who think the exact same, talk about the same things, see the game the exact same way. I hope not cos that would be the most boring thing I could imagine at football.

I don't want anyone to think or see the game the same way as me, I do however get wound up by the way other people (mainly started since we became slightly successful) go off. It's not that they disagree with my opinion that riles me, it's their apparent complete disrespect and personal hatred of individuals no matter what they do.

Do either Lee Hendrie or Nick Montgomery deserve to be called "c*nt" or "retard"? Did Amy Warnock deserve to be booed and called "fat cow"?

For example, just a few days ago I saw Nick Montgomery stick his head into a challenge where there was quite a high chance of him getting a face full of studs. He won the ball, only for it to drop between him and another opposition player, who incidentally would normally have been beaten to the ball by one of Montys teammates, if he'd have not been daydreaming. Against the odds, he again won the ball, but only by cannoning it off the player who he was up against.

Having ignored the initial winning of the ball, the bloke behind spewed out "you fucking useless wanker, fuck off off the pitch you waste of oxygen".

For me, whatever your opinion on his playing abilities, that is totally out of order. I know we'll get the odd person, who doesn't know how to show their frustrations.. but it must be catching because its week in week out these days.

There are many examples, I could go on all day, the bloke next to me stating if he saw Tonge in the car park he'd "run him over the twat"

When we lose regardless of how we've played I am pissed off, I am absolutely gutted, I feel like my insides have been torn out and I just can't bear to think about the game cos it reminds me of how pissed off I was/am.

I'm the same, but I'm increasingly getting more frustrated by the torrent of abuse and knee-jerk over-reaction than the fact we've lost.

I hate everything about the team when we lose and I feel like shouting my mouth off, but in a few days I'll have calmed down and the whole thing starts again.

I can understand why people post things after a game that seem extremely harsh but what i can't seem to get my head around is when people are nit picking through other peoples posts and try to catch them out, that is a bit dirty and underhand if you ask me.

I'd say I differ slightly, as I rarely get so riled at the team themselves, more the situation.

I may myself seem at times like I'm nit picking, but I'm merely giving my opinion on the situation at hand and trying to coax out a particular reasoning behind someone elses.

 

[happyhippy]

Again, only if Cotterill can get back to being able to actually fulfil last seasons promise. So far, Halford has scored himself, put in some cracking crosses and his long throws are better than most corners. Cotterill on the other hand, has beat 2 men a couple of times before losing the ball or crossing behind the strikers.

Perhaps if he'd had more time on the pitch then he would have created more, but the problem is, unless he's creating he'll offer little else. Unless the rest of the team can cover this (at the moment it's not looking likely) then it's a major risk starting him at the moment.

I totally agree in the long term, but the way they are both currently playing and looking, I think it would be detrimental to the side dropping Halford for Cotts. Give him more time in the reserves and coming off the bench till he looks fit/interested.

Some interesting points regarding Halford and Cotterill, but I have to say I think Cotterill should start. We could even try Halford alongside Speed in midfield, as a slightly more defensive midfielder, now that Tonge has gone. If we need more grit, we can always have Monty on the bench, or just interchange as and when required by tactics.

I do agree that his delivery has been pretty poor at times, but as I said on another thread, we did 'look' more dangerous when he came on v Cardiff. I really do think we need to have two true wide men on the field, and if we're not going to be playing Keef (for whatever reason), then I think Cotterill fills that void on the right.

 

[matth]

It's been noted by some people that Halford sees his best position as being in midfield.

Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is. Paddy could decide that his best position is as a centre-forward, but it wouldn't make it true - his performance against Yorkshire CCC a couple of years ago notwithstanding

 

[happyhippy]

It's been noted by some people that Halford sees his best position as being in midfield.

Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is. Paddy could decide that his best position is as a centre-forward, but it wouldn't make it true - his performance against Yorkshire CCC a couple of years ago notwithstanding

True , but I personally see him as more of a central midfielder, or defender, than a winger.

 

[TonyAgana]

True , but I personally see him as more of a central midfielder, or defender, than a winger.

He certainly isn't a winger. Neither is Stephen Quinn. That's the main issue for me.

 

[Foxy]

True , but I personally see him as more of a central midfielder, or defender, than a winger.

He's always said himself that his preferred position is central midfield.

I totally agree with all the thinking behind Cotts starting, I just think its a very difficult decision to make for Blackwell with the way they are both playing.

Cotts could be a big risk, he could also come back in and click again. I just don't think its so black and white as others do.

I totally agree that we need the balance that two natural wingers provides, but the two wingers need to be playing well, not just getting a start because of their natural position.

Lets not forget that most of Cotts short career so far he's been described as much as a striker than a midfielder. He also seems to have picked up a tendency to come inside this season, something Keef was repeatedly complained about for.

Still, one thing is for sure, we are quite likely to see some changes on Tuesday night in my opinion.

 

[keenzy]

Players should adapt to what position they are put in.

Having been playing football for well over 10 years(not a kick around in the park) i have played in every position and done well in them all. I'd say my best position is sat in front of the back four, but yet i have been played up front and scored goals, iv played the wing and got plenty of assists and played left back even keeper on occasions. Its not that difficult to adapt to another role. If you think it is, i must be some talented footballer!

 

[beightonblade]

keenzy for midfield.....................all our prayers answered !

 

[keenzy]

yes they would be. Im 6ft, can head a ball, pick a pass and tackle, id play for £500 a week and no bonus'. Sign me up!

 

[Foxy]

yes they would be. Im 6ft, can head a ball, pick a pass and tackle, id play for £500 a week and no bonus'. Sign me up!

Yeah but you'd just sit on the bench moaning on about your toe!

For the record, I agree, any professional footballer should be able to adequately play in any position.

 

[keenzy]

if it was for united, i would get drugged up and play through it, or have it amputated!

 

[beightonblade]

keenzy and 'our gert' midfield sorted....................:cry2:

QUALITY not QUANTITY

 

[keenzy]

your gerts up front! replacing hendo!

 

[jose_d_blade]

i dont know why we dont try a more attacing formation.
why do we need to play 442 if we havent got 4 inform midfielders why not play 433 or even 424 weve got plenty of strikers. even if we keep playing hoofball surly thers more chance of keeping the ball up front if thers some one for henderson or beattie to lay the ball off to.
ive watched webber a few times and he seems to get the ball beat the players zoom down the pitch to run in to a dead end if he was playing as a winger at least therd be some one to pass to.
same as sharp play him in the hole behind henderson and beattie n all that running around could be put to good use.
even if we start with 442 if nothings happening and not much is coming from the outher way "cardif" surly this would be better than hoping to pinch a goal "shit or bust" is better than "wait n see" in my opinion

 

[beightonblade]

your gerts up front! replacing hendo!

'our gerts' sum lass..............she can do both jobs !................

multi taskins a breeze for her !

 

[shorehamview]

keenzy for midfield.....................all our prayers answered !

Apart from the one about not signing any more ginners.

 

[matth]

Players should adapt to what position they are put in.

Having been playing football for well over 10 years(not a kick around in the park) i have played in every position and done well in them all. I'd say my best position is sat in front of the back four, but yet i have been played up front and scored goals, iv played the wing and got plenty of assists and played left back even keeper on occasions. Its not that difficult to adapt to another role. If you think it is, i must be some talented footballer!

What a steaming load of bollocks.

Even if you play more than just a 'kick around in the park', the level you play at is vastly different to the level professionals play at. If any footballer could adapt to any role, there wouldn't be even nearly as many problems in getting players in for specific roles, and injuries wouldn't matter as you could just replace them with someone else from the squad.

Players have favoured positions that play to their strengths and skills, and to say that any player can play in any position is just rubbish.

 

[Billyblade]

Apart from the one about not signing any more ginners.

Oi !!

 

[Robbie]

Sixth in the table and a defeat against a team who desperately needed to win..

I'm sorry... have I been asleep and it's currently April 2009?

Surely these 2 are contradictory to each other? (the latter refering to it was a game we needed to win)

We aren't going to play with no fear every game and some players are going to have an off day. I suppose you go into work every day of you life with "no fear" and giving 100%, or do some days go by with everything against you? you have a customer complaining at you before you have even started work?.

I'd expect 100% on match days.

I wish I could come home from a defeat and be in a jolly mood just cos I watched the game, but I can't, I never have been able to and never will be able to.

Same applies for me fella. I come home from a loss always with a hammering headache, because I'm frustrated. I go to watch the game yes, but when we lose I am extremely disappointed, regardless of the opposition.

I can understand sometimes if a team is actually better than us, but Derby? Oh dear.

Players have favoured positions that play to their strengths and skills, and to say that any player can play in any position is just rubbish.

I believe every player should have "some" versatility. However some players you know couldn't play at a decent level in other positions. Chris Morgan is a fine example. Where as others like Monty can do a decent job in pretty much any position you play him.

At the level of United, Matt is right though, they are specialised for that position, and whilst they may do an ok job elsewhere, its not a solution. Morgan could be a fantastic striker in Sunday league football I am sure, however at that level he would be awful.

 

[Samantha]

At the end of the day...

If we come home tonight and we've performed wonderfully and had a massive win, Blackwell will be king, McCabe will be our saviour once again, and the team will be the best team we've ever had.

My point - nobody is happy, or ever going to agree. The chance of us winning every game per season is pretty low (has any team ever done it)? The chance of us performing 100% and every fan being happy every game per season - is the most unlikely event I've ever come across!!

 

[matth]

I believe every player should have "some" versatility. However some players you know couldn't play at a decent level in other positions. Chris Morgan is a fine example. Where as others like Monty can do a decent job in pretty much any position you play him.

At the level of United, Matt is right though, they are specialised for that position, and whilst they may do an ok job elsewhere, its not a solution. Morgan could be a fantastic striker in Sunday league football I am sure, however at that level he would be awful.

Stop agreeing with me - it's freaking me out

 

[Robbie]

At the end of the day...

If we come home tonight and we've performed wonderfully and had a massive win, Blackwell will be king, McCabe will be our saviour once again, and the team will be the best team we've ever had.

I have no problems with McCabe.

I stand by my assesment that Blackwell isn't the right man to take us where we aspire to be.

The team is ok for me as it stands.

None of these views will change if we have a good win tonight.

Stop agreeing with me - it's freaking me out

I agree we should stop agreeing

 

[RaWW]

So, just so I have this straight... everyone should be entitled to their opinions apart from me?

Me having my comment on other people's opinions amounts to nit picking and is dirty and underhand yet you having your say on my opinions stands up as some beaming light of reason?

People coming home and shouting their mouth off about the football is fine yet people coming home and whinging about the conduct of their fellow fans is not?

And because I happen to be female, my love for football can somehow be discounted with a cheap jibe about Barbies? (yeah... I never had one but stereotype all you want.)

I wasn't having a pop at you personally Linz, and my Barbie jibes are just me messing about with ya, you know what I'm like, I've still the same sense of humour when I sat (virtually) next to you.

The main point I was getting at is that every fan is different. There is no set rule to say how a fan must behave.

I know it's frustrating when people mouth off about players when they are trying their best, but sometimes certain people rile others up. I.e. Hendrie for me.

 

[Foxy]

I know it's frustrating when people mouth off about players when they are trying their best, but sometimes certain people rile others up. I.e. Hendrie for me.

But what makes it wrong to be of the opinion that its out of order to personally abuse such a player?

The only possible factor I personally could see for Hendrie riling anyone since he came to the lane are his comments about wanting to sign for Leicester. Which even then, I think were completely understandable under the circumstances. I get riled with players all of the time for a variety of reasons but I personally feel that abusing them to the level some do is wrong.

In Hendrie's case, i've always thought he was a talented player, but thought if the rumours were true he was a nasty individual. Having seen him since at the blades, he's done absolutely nothing but convince me that either the rumours were all lies or that he has changed as a person.

I don't want anyone to behave in a set way or have a set opinion (I'd be pointless me paying out to run a forum if that was the case), but equally I should be able to have the opinion that certain ways of acting towards people we are supposed to support are out of order.

 

[Billyblade]

True,RaWW, every fan is different with their reactions during and after the game. It would be a very boring world if we all behaved the same.

Me, personally I am as passionate as the next man at the match and regularly get told to calm down but I seem to be able to switch off after the match. There are more important things going on in my life for me to let that take a hold.Is that right or wrong? Who knows? I think its right because I support my team, but don't go home and kick the crap out of the wife if we play badly.

What I don't like is personal abuse towards players and constant droning, whining and griping from kick-off. It is so counter-productive.

How would most people like it if they had someone sat behind their chair, lathe whatever while they were working telling them they were wank at their job and they hoped they broke their leg?

People seem to think that because a footballer gets paid so much they somehow deserve to be abused verbally and sometimes physically. You only have to look at the disgraceful treatment dished out to David Beckham after his sending off in the World Cup.

These points are not aimed at anyone on here and in no way are supposed to be a description of any of you (unless you sit on row II). They are my observations of peoples behaviour towards footballers and each other during and after matches.

Let's get behind the team, I personally don't think any member of that team is not trying. Let's not groan at every mis-placed pass, try and get some singing going, whatever happened to Fortress Bramall Lane?

Up The Blades!!!!!!