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SuperDuperBlades said:
Norqood is "sometimes" excellent at the long pass. At other times he is carelessly shite.
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Agree, Norwood is generally excellent but does make the odd mistake/ unforced error.
Where as Fleck keeps it simple, doesn’t take risks so doesn’t make as many mistakes.

Think I’d prefer players to give it a go.
Last season Stevens also played it safe every match, stopped making his early season mistakes but rarely took on a man or tried anything difficult. This season he’s upped his game, much more positive, gained confidence and tries to make things happen.

I also like the look of Dowell too, yes he’s lost possession a few times and made a few mistakes
But he’s always positive, looking to impress with the odd trick and flick, takes men on and tries the difficult pass.
Reminds me of the talent that Brooks had. Dowell has the potential to be a real player.
 

Regardless of whether or not his standards have dropped recently , one thing is absolutely certain , John Fleck is absolutely vital to us & how we play . Even at below his best he is still head & shoulders above anybody else we have in his position , he is irreplaceable & we must keep him at all cost!
 
JohnDenver said:
This. The notion that Norwood doesn’t pass to him enough for him to play well is bobbins.
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I'll rehash what I said Saturday. It's a different partner with a different style to Coutts, it ain't 'bobbins'



Problem for Fleck is Norwood. Norwood tries things too often that Coutts would never have tried - he’d instead have given it to Fleck to run with - and often they do come off but it’s hindering Fleck’s game.

That being said Norwood is miles ahead of Coutts right now in every sense of the word.

Fleck and Norwood are by far our best pairing as it stands. No one comes close, not Coutts, not Dowell, and certainly not Lundstram.
Last seasons Coutts and it would be a much tougher choice but as it stands he is miles off.
 
Piffle and Tosh said:
The Fact that there are actually 2 people that agree with this statement worries me deeply or is it that you and their blind dogs are computer literate
a lower league player with potential ,Male cow manure of the highest order .
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It's true though isn't it. Until last season, he'd only ever played in Scotland and League 1 so was really a lower league player with potential. IMO, he showed a lot of that potential last season and some this season, until he played for Scotland, after which his performances have been average but poor by his standards.
 
If Fleck goes I cannot explain how p1ssed off I will be, especially for the 4 million offered. Would clearly signal a lack of ambition by the board let alone a huge disrespect to us fans for both ballsing up our promotion prospects and selling to those bell ends.
 
Akinbiyi said:
I'll rehash what I said Saturday. It's a different partner with a different style to Coutts, it ain't 'bobbins'



Problem for Fleck is Norwood. Norwood tries things too often that Coutts would never have tried - he’d instead have given it to Fleck to run with - and often they do come off but it’s hindering Fleck’s game.

That being said Norwood is miles ahead of Coutts right now in every sense of the word.

Fleck and Norwood are by far our best pairing as it stands. No one comes close, not Coutts, not Dowell, and certainly not Lundstram.
Last seasons Coutts and it would be a much tougher choice but as it stands he is miles off.
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I still don’t buy it. Many of Fleck’s poorer performances have been characterised by the number of errors he makes on the ball - something not forced on him by anyone. His shooting has deteriorated from an already underwhelming level. His energy doesn’t seem quite what it was.

Coutts used to ping long balls out to the left wing when he was running the midfield. Norwood perhaps goes long a bit more often, but not every other pass. It hasn’t cut out Fleck from our pattern play. We still play a patient passing game. The ball is often recycled from one wing to the other via Duffy Fleck and Norwood.

And Fleck has put in a few really good performances alongside Norwood. His drop in levels hasn’t been consistent.

At his best he can accept the ball under pressure, turn out of trouble and carry the ball forward. He’s not doing that, and I’m sure it’s not because the ball is flying over his head every time.

To me it’s down to Fleck, and he’s putting Wilder in a quandary with his contract gambit.
 
I suspect that we'll sell for the right price. Whether that would be Wilder's decision or our glorious owners.

Something doesn't seem to be right with him this season. Whether it's a question of having to play deeper or something else.

As others have said though he's part of a midfield which has dominated most games in a club who are 3rd.

It would likely cost us a lot to replace him.
 
robbiez666 said:
I suspect that we'll sell for the right price. Whether that would be Wilder's decision or our glorious owners.

Something doesn't seem to be right with him this season. Whether it's a question of having to play deeper or something else.

As others have said though he's part of a midfield which has dominated most games in a club who are 3rd.

It would likely cost us a lot to replace him.
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He will go for the right price and it will Flecks decision, not the board or manager. No player is going to turn down premier league football and a doubling/tripling of his wages. He would be a fool to do so at his age really.
 
Be interesting to see how determined we are, if true. Whether we have to sacrifice Fleck to bring in other players. Given we've not seen much of the Brooks money, the owners might be looking to cash in.
 
Yellarbellyblade said:
Possibly explains your grouchy grumpy way of forwarding your arguments with these young whippersnappers on here. Age can bring wisdom but in the words of Mahatma Ghandi “it is unwise to be too sure of one’s own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err”

In other words it is the height of self delusion to believe you are always right just because of your age.
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Nothing to do with age.
Just plain and simple self delusion :rolleyes:
 

Pinchy has never liked Fleck since he came in and went on to prove as effective as his Rolls Royce Couttsy, he always used to give it the whole midfield deserved credit bullshit when Fleck deserved singling out for special praise. He struggles with this currently due to the fact that Coutts is struggling for fitness and game time after his horrific injury, (which is understandable), he really can’t cope and needs Fleck to move on just so he can sleep at night. :)

Fleck hasn’t been shit like he’s making out, he’s obviously carrying out different instructions to last season and that’s part of the reason we’ve conceded a lot less goals this season compared to the last one. I’m not going to go into it but it’s as clear as day that he covers more nowadays.

Coincidentally, tufty or Wilder as I like to call him plays this shit player week after week, anyone would think that pinchys tufty is a right daft twat! :)
 
Nicolaus_Copernicus said:
“John? Hello, this is Manuel Luis Pellegrini Ripamonti here. Yes, you can call me ‘La Maquinaria’ if you want, all my close friends do. Do you know all those dirty thoughts you have when your mind wanders when you’re waiting for Lunny to control a football and pass it to you? I can make them all come true. Yes, even that one involving a swimming pool full of export strength Bucky wine. I will furnish you with as much money as you can dream of, i will allow you to provide for future generations of the Fleck family that are currently no more than twinkles in your children’s eyes and I’ll also allow you to come on for the last 10 minutes in Carabao Cup games when we’re 3 up. Do we have a deal?”
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"Are you phoning from West ham Jimmy?
If you arr, I think ye best get fooked off, ma kilt n sporren are happy in Sheffield, this is where they make the gurrrrders that go inta ma iron-bruu!"
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again. This so-called dip in Fleck's form is a fallacy. He was made to look outstanding last season when Coutts went down and he had to carry the midfield with over half the season left. This season he's returned to being a mainstay of the mid-three with able support around him instead of the Leonard/Evans/Lundstram fiasco. He's bullet-proof, he's one of Wilder's first names on the team sheet and the only time he's missing from the line up is when he's OD'd on the yellows. If United flog him it will compare with any example of torment the club have imposed on us in the last 50+ years of me watching them, especially at this juncture in their history. It also wouldn't surprise me.
 
Pinchy said:
It is, but youngsters never appreciate the value of experience until they get it.
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True but I think it goes something like:

40: appreciate the value of experience

50: realise that despite your experience you’re not infallible

60: start relying heavily on experience as it’s all you’ve got.

70: stop giving a shit about things and just say what you want when you want.
 
BushBlade said:
True but I think it goes something like:

40: appreciate the value of experience

50: realise that despite your experience you’re not infallible

60: start relying heavily on experience as it’s all you’ve got.

70: stop giving a shit about things and just say what you want when you want.
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30: old enough to realise that there’s the odd, old, daft twat knocking about. :)
 
Spammers still got the tit on!

Re: John Fleck
Post by Marco Boogers Boots » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:48 am

If he's their player of the year, I say sign him up.

Then register him as John Tevez, never pick the cunt then send him on loan to Sheffield Wednesday next season.

Blunt cunts


Re: John Fleck
Post by OZHAMMER » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:08 am

Take him and Billy Sharp.

Not because we need them, but because the Blunts do.
 
derfblade.3 said:
Spammers still got the tit on!

Re: John Fleck
Post by Marco Boogers Boots » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:48 am

If he's their player of the year, I say sign him up.

Then register him as John Tevez, never pick the cunt then send him on loan to Sheffield Wednesday next season.

Blunt cunts


Re: John Fleck
Post by OZHAMMER » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:08 am

Take him and Billy Sharp.

Not because we need them, but because the Blunts do.
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Well at least they’re not crying about their free stadium for a change.
 
derfblade.3 said:
Spammers still got the tit on!

Re: John Fleck
Post by Marco Boogers Boots » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:48 am

If he's their player of the year, I say sign him up.

Then register him as John Tevez, never pick the cunt then send him on loan to Sheffield Wednesday next season.

Blunt cunts


Re: John Fleck
Post by OZHAMMER » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:08 am

Take him and Billy Sharp.

Not because we need them, but because the Blunts do.
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I actually think they hate us more than vice versa, based on conversations I've had with Hammers.Presumably they feel the PL was just in the £5m fine and we should have just accepted they lied to the PL, braking a key rule in the process which was supposed to be a points deduction of course.
 
BushBlade said:
True but I think it goes something like:

40: appreciate the value of experience

50: realise that despite your experience you’re not infallible

60: start relying heavily on experience as it’s all you’ve got.

70: stop giving a shit about things and just say what you want when you want.
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