Fans who "prefer" to stand in seating areas

[TarquinDelouche]

Football fans arguing that they want to sit at away football matches. What else you going to moan about? Lack of prawn sandwiches.

I understand some people have to sit down, can't think of a good reason why people would chose to.

Well then if you can't think of a reason, there couldn't POSSIBLY be one. The debate ends here.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Well then if you can't think of a reason, there couldn't POSSIBLY be one. The debate ends here.

I didn't say there was not a good reason. I said I could not think of one other than necessity. Enlighten me?

 

[wizadry]

There's some inconsiderate twats about. I love standing up but if someone politely asked me to sit down, i'd sit down. This really shouldn't be an hard concept in life and i've had to do it at many away matches this season, well not had to but I've chosen to do it.

There should be a safe standing option at football and the majority of people know this, with the people at the top of the game in this country at the moment, it's simply not going to happen.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

I didn't say there was not a good reason. I said I could not think of one other than necessity. Enlighten me?

Perhaps, as sitting down for two hours is easier than standing, the onus is on others to explain why anybody would want to stand? "Better atmosphere" simply doesn't cut it, either.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Perhaps, as sitting down for two hours is easier than standing, the onus is on others to explain why anybody would want to stand? "Better atmosphere" simply doesn't cut it, either.

So that's the reason? You find it more comfortable to sit? I sit on the Kop, I can assure that is not the case.

Hands up who thinks atmospheres are better or even as good at football grounds since they became all seated?

I believe that argument does cut it, personally.

 

[BeccyBlade]

Perhaps, as sitting down for two hours is easier than standing, the onus is on others to explain why anybody would want to stand? "Better atmosphere" simply doesn't cut it, either.

I'll explain-stood up because we couldn't see the far end of the pitch when sat on the front (asked not to be!) row. No one behind us minded-steward right in front of us didn't tell us to sit. I would have sat down if there were a young un behind me who couldn't see but yeh it would've ruined my view.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I sympathise with the sentiment of the OP. Being forced to stand doesn't bother me but I do feel for shorter people, especially kids when they can't see a thing. They have a right to watch the game as well.

Unfortunately we live in a world full of people that don't care as long as they're alright. It doesn't hurt anyone to show a bit of consideration for other people, certainly not for fellow supporters. It's the same principal with parking. I can't abide people that park like bell ends with their car positioned way off centre or in worse cases with two wheels inside a second space. It's a complete lack of respect and courtesy for others.

 

[Dec]

Perhaps, as sitting down for two hours is easier than standing, the onus is on others to explain why anybody would want to stand? "Better atmosphere" simply doesn't cut it, either.

I stand wherever because 9 times out of 10 you get fuck all leg room and I don't fancy my knees digging into plastic for 45 minutes at a time.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Perhaps, as sitting down for two hours is easier than standing, the onus is on others to explain why anybody would want to stand? "Better atmosphere" simply doesn't cut it, either.

There's no other reason required. The majority of people stand when away out of instinct. Because it's football, not the cinema.

 

[SB_90]

I think no matter what side we are on with this argument. We agree that we need a designated standing area at away grounds. How would we go about bringing up this point to utd

 

[Tyler Durden]

I think no matter what side we are on with this argument. We agree that we need a designated standing area at away grounds. How would we go about bringing up this point to utd

Because the club are at the mercy of the unspeakable cunts that we call Sheffield City Council and the Safety Advisory Group, and there's no indication that they would have the bollocks to challenge them even if they were inclined to.

 

[Lard_Lad]

Safe standing needs to be introduced soon, they have it in Germany and have little problems, the atmosphere is amazing (Yellow wall Dortmund) and you can sell far more tickets.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Ah, but of those 2,900 standing, a decent percentage will only be standing because they can't see if they sit down due to the ones who want to stand, standing.

I take my hat off to the logic and wisdom - far too good for S24SU.

UTB

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Safe standing needs to be introduced soon, they have it in Germany and have little problems, the atmosphere is amazing (Yellow wall Dortmund) and you can sell far more tickets.

Think you will find you can't sell more tickets.

A rail seat in Germany is a seat that tips up but only the same amount of people in the ground.

You simply stand instead of sitting - same number of people on the row.

UTB

 

[sufcboy95]

Maybe we should start allocating tickets from top of the stand to bottom? And then giving people with kids the option of sitting at the bottom?
However the parents should know that all the fans always stand at away games. What would they have done if they were 12 rows up? Asked everyone to sit down?

 

[Razor1967]

If someone behind you asks you to sit down, my response would be to swap seats with them.

That way, they can sit, you can still stand. Job sorted.

Ahhh the old common sense approach....

 

[Ricky]

Would it really be difficult for the home club to....

1. Print the tickets out in a certain order, front to back for example
2. Note the front to back halfway point in the away end, row P for example
3. Split the tickets based on that halfway point
4. Send them to the away club in envelopes clearly labelled 'front' or 'back'

It's then up to the away club to co-operate and let their fans know how it is.

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

Think you will find you can't sell more tickets.

A rail seat in Germany is a seat that tips up but only the same amount of people in the ground.

You simply stand instead of sitting - same number of people on the row.

UTB

From what I've seen in Germany you have two steps between every rail, and a person can stand on each, so you get twice as many people in as when the rail seats are in use.

This helps reduce prices.

 

[Foxy]

Think you will find you can't sell more tickets.

A rail seat in Germany is a seat that tips up but only the same amount of people in the ground.

You simply stand instead of sitting - same number of people on the row.

UTB

You'll also find that if we replaced the Kop seats with rail seats, capacity would be reduced by a decent amount.

 

[Rodley]

You'll also find that if we replaced the Kop seats with rail seats, capacity would be reduced by a decent amount.

Would be worth seeing if Celtic's ground has seen its capacity reduced since the introduction of rail seating.

 

[Rodley]

Would it really be difficult for the home club to....

1. Print the tickets out in a certain order, front to back for example
2. Note the front to back halfway point in the away end, row P for example
3. Split the tickets based on that halfway point
4. Send them to the away club in envelopes clearly labelled 'front' or 'back'

It's then up to the away club to co-operate and let their fans know how it is.

I think it's so difficult to administer.

Suspect we'll be seeing bigger matches with a lot more needle next season, so more standing room only IF WE GET PROMOTED.

 

[ilovesufc]

I went with my Dad yesterday who is nearly 70, but thankfully still perfectly capable of standing for 90 mins. However a friend of ours who isn't due to arthritis didn't come with us even though he wanted to, because he knew he would end up being forced to stand, have to confront others about it, or miss large parts of the game sitting down. I think it's pretty crap to feel you can't attend an away game due to those reasons. And btw, we were 3 rows from the front.
Also, the mass standing up thing is actually relatively recent. Looking back ten years or so I've been to loads of away games and (shock, horror), sat down. Now there's no chance of it. Maybe some of the younger generation who don't give a fuck will when they get older and still want to follow their club?? Football is for everyone after all!!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Ah, but of those 2,900 standing, a decent percentage will only be standing because they can't see if they sit down due to the ones who want to stand, standing.

Waste of time stating the obvious, those that insist on standing can't read.

 

[Edinblade]

Why didn't they just swop places allowing the family with kids to sit in front of those wishing to stand. It's not rocket science.

 

[Edinblade]

People from Liverpool shout out when ever standing is mentioned. However Liverpool fans always stand. It's time safe standing areas came back.

 

[fishpie]

Crack down on standing = zero atmosphere.

So let's hope they don't.

Of course it would make sense in every way to have standing and seating areas but many things come before sense on this issue unfortunately.

I dont think thats the point though Ricky. I think Cerebrus is just suggesting that it would be nice if people showed a bit of consideration to others at times, like the young girl in this case.. Seriously, why would a grown man be happy preventing a child from seeing the match..Oh yeah of course, he got to do what he wants.....

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

There's no other reason required. The majority of people stand when away out of instinct. Because it's football, not the cinema.

Understand that and it's not a problem for me. However it is for younger fans. Football culture shouldn't come before common human decency and courtesy. If a kid can't see, people should let others know and sit the fuck down. That's the problem with football, it lacks a certain mutual respect that other sports have.

Take on board what you're saying as you're stating a fact. Doesn't make it right though.

 

[spongebobblade]

There's a fat old gobby bastard behind me with his fat gobby mates who spend the entire match slagging off every single move the team makes. Plus the annoying prick who arrives 15 minutes late every game with a tray of chips and curry and stinks the place out.

I'm not saying I condone mass-murder.....but I get it

The one with the fuckin irritating voice that sounds like he's got a nasal problem. Drives me mental. We all have our moments but he starts the moment our first move breaks down. My other half has barred me from turning round and giving him a gobful

 

[HillmortonBlade]

I generally can't stand being around people, which inevitably makes being an actively attending football fan rather difficult.

If you don't mind the drive, and are not too loyal to them Mighty Blades... a switch to the Ricoh will suit you fine.

 

[Lard_Lad]

Think you will find you can't sell more tickets.

A rail seat in Germany is a seat that tips up but only the same amount of people in the ground.

You simply stand instead of sitting - same number of people on the row.

UTB

I went to dortmund in the summer and there were definitely more people than seats in the stand. Pretty sure it increases the capacity.