Expectations too high - thank you Chris for rescuing us.

[calcalcal]

When Wilder took over we were FOUR
repeat FOUR
points down on HIS total in the equivalent FIVE league games last season.
ie he could reasonably expect to get 88 points from the remaining games
IF, IF they were down to the abilities of the manager.

We have lost 20+ points from winning positions apparently putting us second at the moment and on course for automatics - as last season.
You have to be demented (if only in bigotry) to think saving us from relegation with the massive advantage of parachute payments when better game management could have you in second place easily, is success
Apparently Bettis said PROMOTION was the aim for Wilder, as it should have been in this WORST EVER second division
where EVERY GAME is a chance to win if YOU play well.

He has spunked cash on the squad since and before his official arrival with a host of fellow expensive journeymen,
so unlike SELLES he has no excuses of being unable to field a balanced team

As for the rest of this bollocks The ONLY difference, the ONLY CHANGE he has made since replacing Selles is to play TWO genuine midfielders
rather than just Peck.
SELLES DID NOT HAVE TWO FIT MIDFIELDERS

He has kept the same brain dead anti-football crap of
'pissing about endlessly and dangerously ' at the back.
Inverted wingers (clue if you use an oxymoron to describe your tactics the odds are you are a MORON, as Wilder)
Apparently banning crossing the ball by the wingers, just the ******* fullbacks being allowed to cross and attack wide!
(ps inverted wingers were pointless for Forest tonight as well - as all but the brain dead would expect)
They is no evidence that Selles would not have learned from his mistakes given time AND PLAYERS TO PICK FFS
There is now three continuous years of the same FAILURE and crap from the brain dead imbecile Wilder.

Plus the pre season WENT WELL.
The problem was the key players being sold the week before the season and the none replacement of Souza added to the crock Davies.

Great trolling.
But this does not fool anybody paying attention.

This is selective, childish nonsense
The ownership and bettis are more to blame than wilder or even selles. That said selles tactics were catastrophic. There's being outplayed and there's being crapped on, and with selles we were worse than the pigs. Much worse.

Give wilder 1 more season and hope he learns his lesson to stop sitting on 1 goal leads. If he doesnt then its time to consider things.

And don't call others a troll or a bigot when you act like one yourself.

 

[Danetheblade]

Tj blade.
I agree with you, but it would be great if we had owners who could back the manager, give him funds to buy players that will get us promoted.
Keep us in the Premier League. I am sure fellow Blades will like that.

They gave him £10m to sign Cannon. Maybe they’re not silly enough to let him loose with decent money (as he’s shown multiple times he’s clueless when it comes to spending it)

 

[Shawy24]

Agreed.
People are dreaming.
What quality players have we brought in recently - on permanent contracts - even when we had parachutes ?
Gbric ?
Cannon ?
Chong ?
McGuiness ?
Even Tanga has been nowhere near what we actually needed - and Millwall have been flying without him.

We spend transfer fees extremely poorly.

And trying to repair our mistakes with loans like Binden (who will develop into a good player and leave) is a short-term fix. To say nothing of all the older , inferior loaness.

The "we want to build" bollox that Wilder is always spouting is just hollow words.

Some non-parachute teams have put us to shame in building effective teams.

Our haphazard recruitment has bled the club dry , to the point where :

We've no £ to spend unless we sell our rising young guns ; and

We're stuck with some crap on long contracts , for whom we can't recoup any of our investment , coz either no one would take them or they're worth next to nothing ; and

Once all the current loans go back , we can't afford to replace them , so are forced to loan again.

Almost no point discussing Wilder in isolation.

Until we change our management structure & the people responsible for our recent windows of dreadful recruitment , there's only one direction we're heading.

And looking at the physical fitness of many of our players , that's not great either.
Also , looking at the inconsistency of the on-pitch displays , nor is the coaching.
Doesn't it often feel like we have no plan of attack , once the opposition proves a little bit difficult ?

Ask yourself WHO is reviewing the performance of Bettis , Wilder , Knill , the recruitment people , the fitness people and the coaching people ?

Some yank 3,000 miles away ? Nah.

It's become all too "pally-pally" at the Lane and the money that's been wasted by the old pals act is shameful.

We can laugh at the pigs predicament , but at the same time , it should serve as a warning of what can happen if you waste your money.

It feels like it’s Wilder’s private fiefdom since COH screwed up and had to take drastic action to recover the season, but more than ever now I am concerned with recruitment. I’ve never known it so bad since he first arrived. I would love to know who was responsible for the absolute shit show of this season and the signing of Cannon last season. Perhaps the Football Heaven Team could take their Wednesday dildos out of their arses and actually ask the questions. Because at the moment whose head should be on the block is shrouded in mystery.

 

[Torrix1889]

Okay sadly we are not making the playoffs. My view is we have a lot of people on here demanding instant results from Wilder and they have very short memories.


1) He didn't have a preseason
2) He inherited a team bottom of the league
3) He inherited a squad put together by AI
4) The whole back room setup was a mess
5) Team moral was shot

He has successfully avoided relegation (big bonus from where we were). He got us playing some attractive football. Not all players signed are successes but crucially he got the badly needed experienced in Bamford, Mee and Riedewald. Lets see what happens next season, I have faith in Wilder and most other clubs in the championship would be glad to have him.

Must have missed that bit.....was it a bit like Wednesday's 90 seconds of "prime Brazil"....most of the football has been a return to the turgid crap we endured last season where even though we got to the PO final you could count on 2 fingers the number of good performances.

And I complketely disagree with your last sentence, I think most teams in the Championship would run a mile...

 

[Torrix1889]

Apart from Brewster and Cannon, quite a few players He has signed have been Great.

Don't open that can of worms....he's signed some absolute dross as well...

 

[Slim Man]

Who? Don't say Frank Lampard as he has spent up to £20 million.

Well Frank Lampard is going to achieve promotion. Something Chris hasn't managed in 10 years. So we can't compare them in this day and age

 

[YES Blade]

At the time in the summer, Dyche was available (he didn’t get the Forest job until October). If the package is right he would have taken a job here, as realistically with our last season finish (3rd) he would have seen the potential, although he has managerial experience in the Premier League, when he got sacked from Burnley they were in the relegation zone and at Everton they were 1 point above the relegation zone. When he was sacked by Forest they were 17th. He did do wonders whilst at Burnley to be fair to him especially the European times which started their downfall. But if Spurs randomly come sniffing, he would be foolish to turn down the big money.

O’Neil is now managing Strasbourg in the French top flight with them in 8th place, he isn’t going to touch us with a barge pole.

My biggest issue with Dyche isn’t that we didn’t get him, it’s that we clearly didn’t even bother to pick up the phone and ask him if he’d be interested!

It was clear that once they’d decided that Selles was going to be sacked, they only had one person in mind to replace him. That’s no way to run a football club.

 

[Slim Man]

At the time in the summer, Dyche was available (he didn’t get the Forest job until October). If the package is right he would have taken a job here, as realistically with our last season finish (3rd) he would have seen the potential, although he has managerial experience in the Premier League, when he got sacked from Burnley they were in the relegation zone and at Everton they were 1 point above the relegation zone. When he was sacked by Forest they were 17th. He did do wonders whilst at Burnley to be fair to him especially the European times which started their downfall. But if Spurs randomly come sniffing, he would be foolish to turn down the big money.

O’Neil is now managing Strasbourg in the French top flight with them in 8th place, he isn’t going to touch us with a barge pole.

I'd like us to play fast flowing attacking football. Dyche is yesterday's man. O'Neill was never it.

I stand by Carrick was the man last summer, but his stock has risen quite a lot since then.

Skubala now for me.

 

[The Vicar]

The man available in next 2 years, talks the talk, sacks failures, takes risks, gives it a real go irrespective of the views of others, and if the rumours are true, lives out the reality of, ‘Shoreham boys we are here …….’.

Surely Donald Trump is the man, could he be worse than R/S??

UTB

 

[Stanthemanfan]

A guy was on fh last night praising wilder, he then named cannon, Phillips, Campbell and Rothwell saying they let him down
I'm not his biggest fan but to get rid now especially with the clueless owners we could end up the same as the start of last season

 

[joe casey]

He inherited his old squad with a few terrible additions.

His old squad minus its best centre half (Anel), best central midfielder (Souza), starting centre forward (Moore) as well as no same level replacements for the loanees (Diaz, Rak-Sakyi, Souttar, Choudary)

 

[LBA_Blade]

I'd like us to play fast flowing attacking football. Dyche is yesterday's man. O'Neill was never it.

I stand by Carrick was the man last summer, but his stock has risen quite a lot since then.

Skubala now for me.

I would love us to play fast flowing attractive looking football but the problem with us is we have a squad that doesn't have the fitness levels to be able to do it over a full season and when we do get assets through from the academy we find ourselves in a position where we need to offload. Skubala is interesting as I expect him to be a Championship manager next season with Lincoln but would he jump ship? He has been there a little while and his current deal runs until 2028. There are few other options other than giving Wilder an extended go, we haven't had much success with foreign managers, at one time Hasenhüttl could have been an option but seeing what happened with Selles then probably best to avoid ex-Southampton managers!

 

[programmechap]

I remember us losing at Hull in early October having missed a last minute pen. That meant we'd lost 8 of our first 9. I think the stat was that no team with that record had ever avoided relegation. At that point, we'd have all taken 21st.

So yes, being out of the play off is hunt is disappointing, but finishing comfortably mid table is reasonable, given that start.

 

[SB_90]

That was never a realistic outcome, but whatever

it was, as sky sports like to remind us at the start of wilders reign.
no team has survived relegation having lost their 1st 6 games
no team has survived relegation having only won 1 their 1st 10 games
i believe only 1 team this millennium excluding points deductions had less points than us after 10 games

after that derby defeat on 1st november & 3pts adrift of the relegation zone. relegation was definite worry

 

[jt64]

it was, as sky sports like to remind us at the start of wilders reign.
no team has survived relegation having lost their 1st 6 games
no team has survived relegation having only won 1 their 1st 10 games
i believe only 1 team this millennium excluding points deductions had less points than us after 10 games

after that derby defeat on 1st november & 3pts adrift of the relegation zone. relegation was definite worry

One has to question quite how often that has happened outside of complete basket case clubs

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Varkanoid]

Reading that ^ he wants to win the fans back so lets see if he does what he says with a decent win.