Expectation

[Dkc]

Over the years, fans’ expectations seem to have changed. Today, many fans demand success. Success is defined as promotion and nothing less. Not just “making the play-offs” or doing well in the cup. Promotion.

When I was younger, maintaining the status quo in the second tier and avoiding relegation was seen as success. Anything more was a bonus.

Today, I hear many fans saying that “Wilder’s in the last chance saloon to deliver success”. Making the playoff final last season was “failure” as we didn’t win. Many say that if we don’t get promotion this coming season we should change the manager.

If you take a step back for a moment, you will see that we will be a club without parachute payments next season, competing with many clubs that are as big or bigger than us, who have historically been more successful. There will be three new clubs dropping down from the PL with parachute payments – Wolves, Burney and West Ham / Spurs. Plus we will be competing against similar-sized clubs - Southampton (if they don't beat Hull), Boro, Derby, Norwich, Birmingham, Stoke, West Brom, Blackburn, Cardiff, as well as other well-performing teams like Millwall and Wrexham.

There are 24 teams in the division. Only two get promoted automatically. Three go down. We have no more right to expect promotion than any other club, and those with parachute payments will start with a big advantage. Many other clubs will be better-funded than us. We are not exceptional by any metric. We were the 6th-best supported club in the division this season. Historically, plenty of Championship clubs have been more successful.

Given our resources, I simply can’t see how finishing in the top two or winning the playoffs can be the minimum expectation of many of our fans. Yet it is.

Under Wilder, I expect next season will be better than this one, which was scuppered to a large extent by the Selles fiasco. I can see us finishing in the play offs, especially in the expanded format. I will be disappointed if we don’t. But unless we get into deep relegation trouble I wouldn’t change the manager.

If we were to sack Wilder and get, say, Challinor in, how long would we give him? Would fans want him sacked if we finished, say, 17th? Who would we bring in then?

On average, new managers in the EFL average 1.35 points per game in their first season, (often inheriting teams that have been performing badly) and many are sacked before they turn things around. It generally takes 2–3 years for a manager to establish a squad of their own and see greater success. And managers who succeed in League One/Two often struggle with the step up to the Championship.

Even if we finished 15th next season I would give Wilder a new contract. He is a proven motivator, knows how to win promotion, and has never suffered a relegation in the EFL. At the very least he will keep us in the Championship, which is fine by me. If we only challenge for promotion to the PL every 2-3 years, that’s fine too.

We have no right to be challenging for promotion. Big clubs drop down to League One every season, but since we came up from League One we have never seriously looked like returning. If we changed the manager we might get automatic promotion to the PL - but the stats say it’s highly unlikely.

 

[utd4ever]

I reckon we have a good start then do the usual and become really crap. Sign a few injury prone has-beens in Jan. finish 16th.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

My expectation is to go and enjoy the afternoon out.
Promotion to the PL is way down my list.
I'd rather have a Selles start, then a blaze of wins rest of the season to finish 7th

 

[Danetheblade]

My minimum expectation is to be entertained whilst watching football. Hasn’t happened for a while, my expectation now is promotion, Wilders said it himself that we’ll be different this time round, so the proofs in the pudding.

 

[dexter101]

Win, lose or draw, we'll still come back for more

(unless we don't get promoted, unless we don't play attractive football, unless we don't have a clear pathway for academy players, unless we have pashun, unless we have a kit design that is both traditional but also new and exciting)

It’s gonna be United all the way...

Bit of a mouthful isn't it!

 

[The Fox]

Its a bit early to have any expectations.

Lets see what the squad looks like come the start of the season and how we perform in the 1st month . After that we'll have some indication of quality , depth , style .

Having said that I'd expect us to be competitive , not disastrous or brilliant .

Wilder is an experienced manager , knows the squad and the league, wont necessarily have the resources of recent which isnt a bad thing but will have enough.

 

[prescotblade]

I would like to go and be entertained and if possible get to the play offs. Do I want to vein the premier league. Yes but only if we have the resources to survive and develop
Suspect we will need to keep some of our younger players who aren’t afraid to have ago

 

[jt64]

The only expectation I have is progression. Thought the OP started out reasonable in terms of stating that expecting promotion every year is ridiculous, but then it turned into yet another pro-Wilder can't risk anyone else tirade

 

[Boxer Blade]

Over the years, fans’ expectations seem to have changed. Today, many fans demand success. Success is defined as promotion and nothing less. Not just “making the play-offs” or doing well in the cup. Promotion.

When I was younger, maintaining the status quo in the second tier and avoiding relegation was seen as success. Anything more was a bonus.

Today, I hear many fans saying that “Wilder’s in the last chance saloon to deliver success”. Making the playoff final last season was “failure” as we didn’t win. Many say that if we don’t get promotion this coming season we should change the manager.

If you take a step back for a moment, you will see that we will be a club without parachute payments next season, competing with many clubs that are as big or bigger than us, who have historically been more successful. There will be three new clubs dropping down from the PL with parachute payments – Wolves, Burney and West Ham / Spurs. Plus we will be competing against similar-sized clubs - Southampton (if they don't beat Hull), Boro, Derby, Norwich, Birmingham, Stoke, West Brom, Blackburn, Cardiff, as well as other well-performing teams like Millwall and Wrexham.

There are 24 teams in the division. Only two get promoted automatically. Three go down. We have no more right to expect promotion than any other club, and those with parachute payments will start with a big advantage. Many other clubs will be better-funded than us. We are not exceptional by any metric. We were the 6th-best supported club in the division this season. Historically, plenty of Championship clubs have been more successful.

Given our resources, I simply can’t see how finishing in the top two or winning the playoffs can be the minimum expectation of many of our fans. Yet it is.

Under Wilder, I expect next season will be better than this one, which was scuppered to a large extent by the Selles fiasco. I can see us finishing in the play offs, especially in the expanded format. I will be disappointed if we don’t. But unless we get into deep relegation trouble I wouldn’t change the manager.

If we were to sack Wilder and get, say, Challinor in, how long would we give him? Would fans want him sacked if we finished, say, 17th? Who would we bring in then?

On average, new managers in the EFL average 1.35 points per game in their first season, (often inheriting teams that have been performing badly) and many are sacked before they turn things around. It generally takes 2–3 years for a manager to establish a squad of their own and see greater success. And managers who succeed in League One/Two often struggle with the step up to the Championship.

Even if we finished 15th next season I would give Wilder a new contract. He is a proven motivator, knows how to win promotion, and has never suffered a relegation in the EFL. At the very least he will keep us in the Championship, which is fine by me. If we only challenge for promotion to the PL every 2-3 years, that’s fine too.

We have no right to be challenging for promotion. Big clubs drop down to League One every season, but since we came up from League One we have never seriously looked like returning. If we changed the manager we might get automatic promotion to the PL - but the stats say it’s highly unlikely.

There's some massive clubs getting relegated to division one as well.

 

[Aston max]

I think the last 10 years with "jaunts" into the EPL has risen expectations amongst some our fans plus the fact we've probably pulled in a lot of fans from the younger undecided guy's/girls about which side of the city they are going to follow.
I hate to use the word "delusional " but some of our younger fans I've interacted with are definitely falling into a category close in opinion to our piggy neighbours.
Personally unless there's some major changes we're in for a season like the one we've just finished.

 

[BocciaBlade]

Over the years, fans’ expectations seem to have changed. Today, many fans demand success. Success is defined as promotion and nothing less. Not just “making the play-offs” or doing well in the cup. Promotion.

When I was younger, maintaining the status quo in the second tier and avoiding relegation was seen as success. Anything more was a bonus.

Today, I hear many fans saying that “Wilder’s in the last chance saloon to deliver success”. Making the playoff final last season was “failure” as we didn’t win. Many say that if we don’t get promotion this coming season we should change the manager.

If you take a step back for a moment, you will see that we will be a club without parachute payments next season, competing with many clubs that are as big or bigger than us, who have historically been more successful. There will be three new clubs dropping down from the PL with parachute payments – Wolves, Burney and West Ham / Spurs. Plus we will be competing against similar-sized clubs - Southampton (if they don't beat Hull), Boro, Derby, Norwich, Birmingham, Stoke, West Brom, Blackburn, Cardiff, as well as other well-performing teams like Millwall and Wrexham.

There are 24 teams in the division. Only two get promoted automatically. Three go down. We have no more right to expect promotion than any other club, and those with parachute payments will start with a big advantage. Many other clubs will be better-funded than us. We are not exceptional by any metric. We were the 6th-best supported club in the division this season. Historically, plenty of Championship clubs have been more successful.

Given our resources, I simply can’t see how finishing in the top two or winning the playoffs can be the minimum expectation of many of our fans. Yet it is.

Under Wilder, I expect next season will be better than this one, which was scuppered to a large extent by the Selles fiasco. I can see us finishing in the play offs, especially in the expanded format. I will be disappointed if we don’t. But unless we get into deep relegation trouble I wouldn’t change the manager.

If we were to sack Wilder and get, say, Challinor in, how long would we give him? Would fans want him sacked if we finished, say, 17th? Who would we bring in then?

On average, new managers in the EFL average 1.35 points per game in their first season, (often inheriting teams that have been performing badly) and many are sacked before they turn things around. It generally takes 2–3 years for a manager to establish a squad of their own and see greater success. And managers who succeed in League One/Two often struggle with the step up to the Championship.

Even if we finished 15th next season I would give Wilder a new contract. He is a proven motivator, knows how to win promotion, and has never suffered a relegation in the EFL. At the very least he will keep us in the Championship, which is fine by me. If we only challenge for promotion to the PL every 2-3 years, that’s fine too.

We have no right to be challenging for promotion. Big clubs drop down to League One every season, but since we came up from League One we have never seriously looked like returning. If we changed the manager we might get automatic promotion to the PL - but the stats say it’s highly unlikely.

Brilliant post which highlights the absolute car crash of a decision to relieve CW of his duties and appoint Selles in his place.We are now in the same pot as all the teams you listed trying to get to the premier league without an advantage against clubs that have got parachute payments and will no doubt have the pick of the best players for this level.Yes I’d be disappointed if we didn’t finish in the top 8 but not expecting anything other than an improvement on last season.Regards to CW if as a club we need to go in a different direction then at some point we’ve got to expect a period of consolidation whilst the new way with a new manager brings success (Brighton,Brentford and Bournemouth as an example which wasn’t done overnight) sadly I don’t see the majority of our fan base accepting that.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Expectations at clubs change due to recent history. What would you say the expectations of Bournemouth or Brentford fans are now compared to, say, 10 years ago?

 

[Broomhall Blade]

My minimum expectation is to be entertained whilst watching football. Hasn’t happened for a while, my expectation now is promotion, Wilders said it himself that we’ll be different this time round, so the proofs in the pudding.

You don't really believe him do you ?

 

[Bell4]

Over the years, fans’ expectations seem to have changed. Today, many fans demand success. Success is defined as promotion and nothing less. Not just “making the play-offs” or doing well in the cup. Promotion.

When I was younger, maintaining the status quo in the second tier and avoiding relegation was seen as success. Anything more was a bonus.

Today, I hear many fans saying that “Wilder’s in the last chance saloon to deliver success”. Making the playoff final last season was “failure” as we didn’t win. Many say that if we don’t get promotion this coming season we should change the manager.

If you take a step back for a moment, you will see that we will be a club without parachute payments next season, competing with many clubs that are as big or bigger than us, who have historically been more successful. There will be three new clubs dropping down from the PL with parachute payments – Wolves, Burney and West Ham / Spurs. Plus we will be competing against similar-sized clubs - Southampton (if they don't beat Hull), Boro, Derby, Norwich, Birmingham, Stoke, West Brom, Blackburn, Cardiff, as well as other well-performing teams like Millwall and Wrexham.

There are 24 teams in the division. Only two get promoted automatically. Three go down. We have no more right to expect promotion than any other club, and those with parachute payments will start with a big advantage. Many other clubs will be better-funded than us. We are not exceptional by any metric. We were the 6th-best supported club in the division this season. Historically, plenty of Championship clubs have been more successful.

Given our resources, I simply can’t see how finishing in the top two or winning the playoffs can be the minimum expectation of many of our fans. Yet it is.

Under Wilder, I expect next season will be better than this one, which was scuppered to a large extent by the Selles fiasco. I can see us finishing in the play offs, especially in the expanded format. I will be disappointed if we don’t. But unless we get into deep relegation trouble I wouldn’t change the manager.

If we were to sack Wilder and get, say, Challinor in, how long would we give him? Would fans want him sacked if we finished, say, 17th? Who would we bring in then?

On average, new managers in the EFL average 1.35 points per game in their first season, (often inheriting teams that have been performing badly) and many are sacked before they turn things around. It generally takes 2–3 years for a manager to establish a squad of their own and see greater success. And managers who succeed in League One/Two often struggle with the step up to the Championship.

Even if we finished 15th next season I would give Wilder a new contract. He is a proven motivator, knows how to win promotion, and has never suffered a relegation in the EFL. At the very least he will keep us in the Championship, which is fine by me. If we only challenge for promotion to the PL every 2-3 years, that’s fine too.

We have no right to be challenging for promotion. Big clubs drop down to League One every season, but since we came up from League One we have never seriously looked like returning. If we changed the manager we might get automatic promotion to the PL - but the stats say it’s highly unlikely.

Really good post - i agree, mostly, but i do think we need to identify Wilders successor , thoroughly this time . We have to break the utter reliance on him and the paradigm that no-one else can do the job.

 

[Davalon]

Utter woke nonsense.

If we're not top by 3.45 on the first day of the season I want him gone.

 

[Bell4]

Expectations at clubs change due to recent history. What would you say the expectations of Bournemouth or Brentford fans are now compared to, say, 10 years ago?

Now that's a great point tbf, add in Wrexham perhaps.

 

[Æthelstan]

Expectations at clubs change due to recent history. What would you say the expectations of Bournemouth or Brentford fans are now compared to, say, 10 years ago?

Pretty much. Once, the expectation was that we'd easily find our way out of League 1. Instead, we failed in the play-offs for many years with a couple of sad mid-table finishes thrown in.

We've had three seasons in the Premier League since then, so the obvious expectation is to be fighting for promotion at the very least.

Who knows how expectations will change in the future.

 

[Harry's Game]

10th -15th is about reasonable I think .. it’s a transition season next year..

 

[1066blade]

They'll be no big money signings by Wilder (no bad thing seeing as he is clueless at this). So a lot depends on his ability to pick a couple of rough diamonds and adapt an effective playing style and strategy. We know he's done this before, as he got one last trick up his sleeve?

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Expectation was for us to do something different. Sign pace, decent foreign players etc. we'll never do that

 

[Cheeky Blade]

My expectations are to sink pints and have a bit of a moan/cheer…

 

[KMC-1889]

Deadbat has pointed out before that United have 10 year cycles of being good. We're on a downswing now so my expectation is that we'll bumble around midtable and at various points in the season threaten playoffs before fading away at the end. The only wrinkle in this is how the new play off places affect proceedings.

Really not expecting another autos charge any time soon. We caught people by surprise in 17/18/19 after years in league one and in 22/23 we had the benefit of strong championship squad and parachute payments. We're more likely to join the likes of Preston/Stoke/Bristol City/Norwich.

Edited to add.

Wilder is considered a 'failure' for the play off final because with 7 games to go and only one tricky game left (burnley away) we were top of the league. After losing three games against the bottom of the league we dismantled Bristol City and properly bottled the final, which was probably our best opportunity to finally win a game at wembley. How this can be argued as anything other than a failure given where he started is stupid. If he'd been 8th all season and made a last minute charge for the playoffs the reaction would be different.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Over the years, fans’ expectations seem to have changed. Today, many fans demand success. Success is defined as promotion and nothing less. Not just “making the play-offs” or doing well in the cup. Promotion.

When I was younger, maintaining the status quo in the second tier and avoiding relegation was seen as success. Anything more was a bonus.

Today, I hear many fans saying that “Wilder’s in the last chance saloon to deliver success”. Making the playoff final last season was “failure” as we didn’t win. Many say that if we don’t get promotion this coming season we should change the manager.

If you take a step back for a moment, you will see that we will be a club without parachute payments next season, competing with many clubs that are as big or bigger than us, who have historically been more successful. There will be three new clubs dropping down from the PL with parachute payments – Wolves, Burney and West Ham / Spurs. Plus we will be competing against similar-sized clubs - Southampton (if they don't beat Hull), Boro, Derby, Norwich, Birmingham, Stoke, West Brom, Blackburn, Cardiff, as well as other well-performing teams like Millwall and Wrexham.

There are 24 teams in the division. Only two get promoted automatically. Three go down. We have no more right to expect promotion than any other club, and those with parachute payments will start with a big advantage. Many other clubs will be better-funded than us. We are not exceptional by any metric. We were the 6th-best supported club in the division this season. Historically, plenty of Championship clubs have been more successful.

Given our resources, I simply can’t see how finishing in the top two or winning the playoffs can be the minimum expectation of many of our fans. Yet it is.

Under Wilder, I expect next season will be better than this one, which was scuppered to a large extent by the Selles fiasco. I can see us finishing in the play offs, especially in the expanded format. I will be disappointed if we don’t. But unless we get into deep relegation trouble I wouldn’t change the manager.

If we were to sack Wilder and get, say, Challinor in, how long would we give him? Would fans want him sacked if we finished, say, 17th? Who would we bring in then?

On average, new managers in the EFL average 1.35 points per game in their first season, (often inheriting teams that have been performing badly) and many are sacked before they turn things around. It generally takes 2–3 years for a manager to establish a squad of their own and see greater success. And managers who succeed in League One/Two often struggle with the step up to the Championship.

Even if we finished 15th next season I would give Wilder a new contract. He is a proven motivator, knows how to win promotion, and has never suffered a relegation in the EFL. At the very least he will keep us in the Championship, which is fine by me. If we only challenge for promotion to the PL every 2-3 years, that’s fine too.

We have no right to be challenging for promotion. Big clubs drop down to League One every season, but since we came up from League One we have never seriously looked like returning. If we changed the manager we might get automatic promotion to the PL - but the stats say it’s highly unlikely.

 

[MayorOJC]

Expectation was (reasonably) higher in our last two seasons because a) parachute payment money and b) we still had a bunch of players with transfer fees half of the league can only dream of. Now we've squandered that chance, and expectation should be competing for 6th.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Over the years, fans’ expectations seem to have changed. Today, many fans demand success. Success is defined as promotion and nothing less. Not just “making the play-offs” or doing well in the cup. Promotion.

When I was younger, maintaining the status quo in the second tier and avoiding relegation was seen as success. Anything more was a bonus.

Today, I hear many fans saying that “Wilder’s in the last chance saloon to deliver success”. Making the playoff final last season was “failure” as we didn’t win. Many say that if we don’t get promotion this coming season we should change the manager.

If you take a step back for a moment, you will see that we will be a club without parachute payments next season, competing with many clubs that are as big or bigger than us, who have historically been more successful. There will be three new clubs dropping down from the PL with parachute payments – Wolves, Burney and West Ham / Spurs. Plus we will be competing against similar-sized clubs - Southampton (if they don't beat Hull), Boro, Derby, Norwich, Birmingham, Stoke, West Brom, Blackburn, Cardiff, as well as other well-performing teams like Millwall and Wrexham.

There are 24 teams in the division. Only two get promoted automatically. Three go down. We have no more right to expect promotion than any other club, and those with parachute payments will start with a big advantage. Many other clubs will be better-funded than us. We are not exceptional by any metric. We were the 6th-best supported club in the division this season. Historically, plenty of Championship clubs have been more successful.

Given our resources, I simply can’t see how finishing in the top two or winning the playoffs can be the minimum expectation of many of our fans. Yet it is.

Under Wilder, I expect next season will be better than this one, which was scuppered to a large extent by the Selles fiasco. I can see us finishing in the play offs, especially in the expanded format. I will be disappointed if we don’t. But unless we get into deep relegation trouble I wouldn’t change the manager.

If we were to sack Wilder and get, say, Challinor in, how long would we give him? Would fans want him sacked if we finished, say, 17th? Who would we bring in then?

On average, new managers in the EFL average 1.35 points per game in their first season, (often inheriting teams that have been performing badly) and many are sacked before they turn things around. It generally takes 2–3 years for a manager to establish a squad of their own and see greater success. And managers who succeed in League One/Two often struggle with the step up to the Championship.

Even if we finished 15th next season I would give Wilder a new contract. He is a proven motivator, knows how to win promotion, and has never suffered a relegation in the EFL. At the very least he will keep us in the Championship, which is fine by me. If we only challenge for promotion to the PL every 2-3 years, that’s fine too.

We have no right to be challenging for promotion. Big clubs drop down to League One every season, but since we came up from League One we have never seriously looked like returning. If we changed the manager we might get automatic promotion to the PL - but the stats say it’s highly unlikely.

This type of thread is always going to bring the Pro-Wilder/Anti-Wilder supporters out, it's Wildexit (like Brexit) over and over again. Personally Wilder Mk1 did a great job and at that point he decided to leave the 1st time he was one of the best managers of the club. When he left, like countless managers previous it should have been with his golden handshake, cheers and goodbye. We shouldn't have sacked Hecky in December of 2023, after offloading 2 of our best squad players in the Aug/Sept of a new Premier League campaign. Although we have had long term managers in the past and some still get linked every time there is a potential of a new job going, Wilder shouldn't keep coming back as it's too difficult to move on once he is part of the furniture especially when we don't have a clear plan. Sacking Wilder Mk2 wasn't the wrong choice as he had a remit to get promotion and didn't meet it, not forgetting at the end of March of that season we were top of the league, we didn't even need to beat Burnley to get promotion in the run in if we would have won our games against the likes of Oxford at home, the wrong choice was who they brought in to replace him with. Although again they made the correct choice in getting rid other than his final game vs Ipswich (a promotion side) Selles's didn't do too much wrong in terms of performances, we just weren't creating the chances and 1-0 was enough to beat us. However that was 5 league games in, for me that squad we had for 25/26, you have to say quite a few players from us when they played to potential walk into most squads in the Championship. We lost over 30 points from winning positions and also got battered by Preston and Blackburn at home, with a combination of staying solid at the back. There was only 25 points to put us 2nd, that wasn't lost from Selles's reign. Just winning Preston and Blackburn at home and holding onto 7 of the winning positions would have seen us up automatically. 9 out of the 11 that started the last match of the season at Derby were signed by Wilder/came through the academy. 3 out of the 5 subs he brought on he signed too. We had a squad 25/26 more than capable of getting to 85 points which was the required target for 2nd in the end.

I grew up watching the teams of the 90s onwards and there has been some dire football in that but there has been at times this season a large disconnect between management and players which is strange. It might be just editing on videos, but it was more often the case that Wilder was almost insinuating that he put out the game plan and it's up to the players to decide if they want to play that way and put the effort in.

The expectations of our football club regardless of it's past should be looking at the population of the generic local area by metropolitan area Sheffield is the 5th largest city. Larger than Manchester, and just below Liverpool, both cities (Liverpool and Manchester) are historically working class industrial areas yet both can accommodate 2 large clubs each and maintain a presence on the international football scene. Granted a lot of that is down to investment in the clubs, when Man City were finally bought out completely by the Abu Dhabi investment group in 2008, it was quoted that "Manchester City was chosen because it was available and offered the best opportunity for a swift, high-profile entry into English football", just a season before we were in the Premier League, although Kevin McCabe did some good things in his time the "United World/Chengdu Blades" idea was terrible, he should have been on the look out then when we were on the global stage for selling the club. Forging contacts in the middle East in particular, the UAE had money to burn and we could have had a completely different type of club now. We don't seem to be fashionable for big investment but when you look at the clubs that get it, they aren't in great areas either.

 

[CPB]

It's a good post and one I agree with most of it!

The issue is two-fold at the moment, although I'd say this could still be happening with a different manager.

I think DKc is right to say that it is a bit mad that for many of our fans unless Wilder delivers promotion we should bin him.
But I would say that even as more of a Wilder supporter should that not happen you want to see that the direction the team and club is going in is the right one and then a question could be posed of a change of manager if it's not looking good.
And unfortunately as is the way now in our fanbase and some others. Some fans won't change their mind and aren't open to the idea of seeing where it goes.
Even if Wilder got us promoted and won the FA cup next year some would still not want him.

In terms of direction for instance. In our last two promotions to the PL there was alot to like about how we looked and played the season before we were promoted (Under Wilder and then Hecky) which gave us hope that the following season "could" see us be in the promotion mix.
On the first occasion the club sold D.Brooks and we were able to shift out the likes of Leonard and L.Evans. Bringing in the fine signings that season of Egan, Norwood, McGoldrick which made us go up a gear.
On Hecky's season he recovered the team well and got us in the playoffs. We lost MGW but gained an Iliman who had now just completed his first full season. He didn't start the season but eventually became our main talisman, along with Berge still performing well and McAtee and Doyle making a difference.


The finances are going to dictate what pool we are fishing in. Expect some sales, how much I do not know yet. But it also may open the door for incomings and fees.

 

[Harry's Game]

The new SCR will mean sales to reduce the wage bill and signings of players on much less wages.. the upside is 18 other teams will also be in the same boat.

Need Wilder to find his 2026- 2019 knack of finding good value gems.

 

[knowsnowt]

Why can't we have manager wag?
46 managers and whoever is nearest the dug out on the day takes the team.
It'd be a reyt laugh.

 

[KMC-1889]

The new SCR will mean sales to reduce the wage bill and signings of players on much less wages.. the upside is 18 other teams will also be in the same boat.

Need Wilder to find his 2026- 2019 knack of finding good value gems.

Like Brewster, McBurnie and L. Freeman.

Probably want more deals like 17-19, wheels came off after that.

 

[Harry's Game]

Like Brewster, McBurnie and L. Freeman.

Probably want more deals like 17-19, wheels came off after that.

Meant 2016-19