Everton

[super_pig]

Oh, a large number of the hard of thinking, of course. More amoebae than all other clubs put together.

They refer to pass and move football contemptuously as "tippy tappy", whilst yearning for the return of a has-been manager nobody else even thinks of. They admire survivors Stoke but not table-topping Arsenal or trophy-winning Swansea. They prefer to watch old videos of Wimbledon or Watford.

They assert, somehow without breaking into fits of uncontrollable laughter, that clueless, shadow-chasing, non-footballer Nick Montgomery was one of our best players of the last two decades. Not only that, they actually publish such views for the amusement of observers, whilst the rest of us sit in the corner in silent embarrassment.

When we have a managerial vacancy, they argue the case for nonenties, no-hopers, numpties and non-achievers; Nobodies who have no merit and have achieved little or nothing, for no other reason but that they once wore a Blades badge.

They are unable to see beyond the ends of their noses and are unaware of a world beyond S2. Bladey, Bladey lovers of mediocrity,

By their words shall ye know them:

Kick it Long; Kick it Hard; Kick it High. Gerritintbox!

It's the Bladesfans' Way.

Amen mate.. in fact fucking Amen (sorry)

 

[alcoblade]

Amen mate.. in fact fucking Amen (sorry)

Which part are you agreeing with? The idea that anyone who rejects the current style and performance is crying out for hoof?

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[MBoreman]

Has no one noticed that we stopped playing possession football after the first few games? Tippy-tappy is the most embarrassing phrase I've ever heard. What we need is King and Baxter (both good players at this level) to get a good partnership, like Barkley and Lukaku have, which will come with playing together, and for our wingers to get some crosses in as well as cutting in and interchanging with Baxter, to do this they need support from, preferably new full-backs, Coleman and Baines but the League 1 edition hopefully, and for the CM's to get forward and help them out as 4 players can't break down a defence. Weir will know all this, it'll just take time and money to get to that stage, in the meantime can we ban any idiot who uses the phrases tippy-tappy!

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Pinchy mate , agree with most of what you've got to say , but don't slag off sir Dave , who brought to this club the most exciting times of my Blades life , uncle col to a much lesser extent , both have had there time , I agree , and football has moved on , thats why stoke got rid of pullis , but to slate two of our best managers, nah mate , the club and it's football have to evolve but we have had much worse managers than Sir Dave and Col , much worse. So far the jury's out on the latest one . U.T.B.

 

[Flakey]

If it wins games - and promotion to championship - then me. I go for tippy tappy when we're in the prem!

So we change our style of play when we get in the Premiership? - Well I suppose the Parachute Payment will come in handy.

 

[Fiery Blade]

We will struggle to create anything with the dirth of skill we have at full back - not one of them - McMahon, Westlake, Hill, Williams et al have the necessary pace, skill or ability to attack down the wings and create opportunities - all the lot of them are stealing a living getting paid for such inept and embarrassing performances.

 

[stannyblade]

We will struggle to create anything with the dirth of skill we have at full back - not one of them - McMahon, Westlake, Hill, Williams et al have the necessary pace, skill or ability to attack down the wings and create opportunities - all the lot of them are stealing a living getting paid for such inept and embarrassing performances.

Exactly. Good to see he is trying to bring a new left sided player in. The sooner we replace Mcmahon the better

 

[Sothall_Blade]

No, he's trying to square a circle; turn chalk into cheese. Martinez is an architect and advocate of proper football. Everton will be infinitely more attractive and entertaining under him and, guess what, they'll win football matches.

You hoofers should have more integrity and courage in your convictions than this absurd attempt to turn fine wine into charmless lager. Take pride in your Bassetts and Pulis's and John Becks. Don't try to claim proper football people. It makes you look silly. So does referring to the art of pass and move, practised by the finest footballers and the greatest teams of all time, by a phrase more suited to Fred Astaire.

The We Hoof Brigade are embarrassing our club, just as your guru Dinosaur Dave did recently. Please stop it.

This is what Pinchy says about Pulis when trying to justify his theory that no recently successful club ever plays direct football:-

"I think Stoke play much better football than they are given credit for. Pulis has really surprised me by adapting superbly to the Premiership."

...and this is what Pinchy says when people suggest that a proven, succesful manager like Pulis would be good for us:-

"You hoofers should have more integrity and courage in your convictions than this absurd attempt to turn fine wine into charmless lager. Take pride in your Bassetts and Pulis's and John Becks."

Are there two different Pinchys? He seems a bit schizophrenic?

 

[alcoblade]

Are there two different Pinchys? He seems a bit schizophrenic?

Dumb and Dumber?

I notice they're filming the sequel right now. And Pinchy's always busy. Hmmm...



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[Pinchy]

This is what Pinchy says about Pulis when trying to justify his theory that no recently successful club ever plays direct football:-

"I think Stoke play much better football than they are given credit for. Pulis has really surprised me by adapting superbly to the Premiership."

...and this is what Pinchy says when people suggest that a proven, succesful manager like Pulis would be good for us:-

"You hoofers should have more integrity and courage in your convictions than this absurd attempt to turn fine wine into charmless lager. Take pride in your Bassetts and Pulis's and John Becks."

Are there two different Pinchys? He seems a bit schizophrenic?

No, just the one. As my friend Alco will confirm, I've always insisted that Stoke are not pure Hoof. They have proper footballers such as Whelan, Adam and others inconsistent with that appellation. I mention Pulis because he's the ONLY Premiership manager you Hoofers ever mention in support of your longball paradise. You will note my surprise at his successful adaptation to the Premiership. That arises from his previous propensity for Hoof. I think I can safely put the anti-psychotics back in the medicine cabinet.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

I've always insisted that Stoke are not pure Hoof. They have proper footballers such as Whelan, Adam

Hahahahhaahahhaahhahahaahhaahahaha!!!

 

[yorkshirecoast]

No, he's trying to square a circle; turn chalk into cheese. Martinez is an architect and advocate of proper football. Everton will be infinitely more attractive and entertaining under him and, guess what, they'll win football matches.

You hoofers should have more integrity and courage in your convictions than this absurd attempt to turn fine wine into charmless lager. Take pride in your Bassetts and Pulis's and John Becks. Don't try to claim proper football people. It makes you look silly. So does referring to the art of pass and move, practised by the finest footballers and the greatest teams of all time, by a phrase more suited to Fred Astaire.

The We Hoof Brigade are embarrassing our club, just as your guru Dinosaur Dave did recently. Please stop it.

Thanks for telling me what I was trying to do...

Are you really as simplistic as you sound? The only options are not our current "style" or "hoof". The way we currently play - negative, too many backwards and sideways passes, slow, nobody running with the ball, bringing everyone back for corners, never getting players in the opposition box, dropping our heads when we concede - is boring to watch, doesn't work and will get us relegated. Continual aimless long balls - or hoof - would not work either. What is more likely to work is somwething between the two - pace, power, possession, positive intent and a never say die attitude.

 

[alcoblade]

Putting aside that you've just had your ass kicked on several fronts;

No, just the one. As my friend Alco will confirm, I've always insisted that Stoke are not pure Hoof. They have proper footballers such as Whelan, Adam and others inconsistent with that appellation. I mention Pulis because he's the ONLY Premiership manager you Hoofers ever mention in support of your longball paradise. You will note my surprise at his successful adaptation to the Premiership. That arises from his previous propensity for Hoof. I think I can safely put the anti-psychotics back in the medicine cabinet.

Because there are only Pulis, Basset, Beck and arguably Warnock (unfairly) who are known as out and out hoofers. The rest fall in a band, with Martinez and Gradi at the other end. It's this bit that you don't grasp.

Everyone excepts that a more direct style is a way of getting more performance out of poorer players, at the expense of aesthetics. That's why the top teams, who can afford the top players, don't play it. That's why it's a none debate to talk about it "working" or "not working".

This is all just so simple that it's beyond belief that an intelligent bloke can't or won't grasp it.

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[oldblade]

No, just the one. As my friend Alco will confirm, I've always insisted that Stoke are not pure Hoof. They have proper footballers such as Whelan, Adam and others inconsistent with that appellation. I mention Pulis because he's the ONLY Premiership manager you Hoofers ever mention in support of your longball paradise. You will note my surprise at his successful adaptation to the Premiership. That arises from his previous propensity for Hoof. I think I can safely put the anti-psychotics back in the medicine cabinet.

Sometimes it's better just to say nothing at all.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

No, just the one. As my friend Alco will confirm, I've always insisted that Stoke are not pure Hoof. They have proper footballers such as Whelan, Adam and others inconsistent with that appellation. I mention Pulis because he's the ONLY Premiership manager you Hoofers ever mention in support of your longball paradise. You will note my surprise at his successful adaptation to the Premiership. That arises from his previous propensity for Hoof. I think I can safely put the anti-psychotics back in the medicine cabinet.

"Not pure hoof"?
Surely you're not suggesting that there's some sort of third way of playing the game?
A kind of strange hinterland somewhere between "passing" and "hoofing"?
I'm not sure if anyone has ever even considered that possibility before?

But if that's true of Pulis, then maybe it could also be true of successful managers like Allardyce, Moyes, Mourhino, Graham, Dalglish, Warnock, Wilkinson, O Neill, Bassett, Coppell, Royle, Reid, Redknapp and Taylor?

Maybe they also employ this "Not pure hoof" style that you speak of.
Or maybe even "Not pure pass" as a fourth option?

I think you might be on to something here and I think we as a club should do something equally revolutionary.

 

[blade too long]

Id imagine wed look a lot better with Lukaku, how did we miss out on him

 

[God]

Just watching them dismantle Newcastle at home with some exquisite football, the kind I imagine DW is trying to implement the only difference being they are earning the right to play by winning the battles in every position on the park. Possession, tippy tappy football is alright but at any level you need to do the ugly stuff first, another glaring fact that DW doesn't acknowledge in his deluded post-match assessments.

I watched it and with great interest too. Did you note the similarities to our defeat to Preston last week? Everton all over Newcastle for the first 40 mins, then Newcastle come out second half, up the ante and close Everton down a lot quicker and more aggressively aka Preston last week. Like us Everton (not comparing us to Everton no) didn't like being pressed and closed down high up the pitch. It could have finished 3-3 as easy as anything. We have to learn to mix it up more.

 

[Darren]

Putting aside that you've just had your ass kicked on several fronts;




Because there are only Pulis, Basset, Beck and arguably Warnock (unfairly) who are known as out and out hoofers. The rest fall in a band, with Martinez and Gradi at the other end. It's this bit that you don't grasp.

Everyone excepts that a more direct style is a way of getting more performance out of poorer players, at the expense of aesthetics. That's why the top teams, who can afford the top players, don't play it. That's why it's a none debate to talk about it "working" or "not working".

This is all just so simple that it's beyond belief that an intelligent bloke can't or won't grasp it.

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He's obviously not serious. It's a long running joke, which only he finds amusing any more.

 

[JJ Sefton]

DW is well on the way to being worse than Billy McEwan

He's well past that.

 

[Jonboy60]

Can't wait for the day we completely play stockbridge off the park.

 

[Pinchy]

Thanks for telling me what I was trying to do...

Are you really as simplistic as you sound? The only options are not our current "style" or "hoof". The way we currently play - negative, too many backwards and sideways passes, slow, nobody running with the ball, bringing everyone back for corners, never getting players in the opposition box, dropping our heads when we concede - is boring to watch, doesn't work and will get us relegated. Continual aimless long balls - or hoof - would not work either. What is more likely to work is somwething between the two - pace, power, possession, positive intent and a never say die attitude.

Interesting that your required qualities don't include talent. 'Twas ever thus in the Hooflands of s2.

Pace, Power, Possession, positive intent and "never say die"? Hang on.......... Mmmm........................Yes.................... Over here...............
.................Another one for Tug-O-War.

 

[shorehamview]

Pace, Power, Possession, positive intent and "never say die"? Hang on.......... Mmmm........................Yes.................... Over here...............
.................Another one for Tug-O-War.

Alternatively, the beaten finalists in the 2012 Champion's League Final, Bayern Munich. beaten by Chelsea, who managed to see off the tippy-tappers of Barcelona. Bayern's never-say-die attitude and the rest of the stuff you said saw them win the final at Wembley against Borussia Dortmund in 2013.

Do Bayern play "hoof"? No.

Ah, so they play "tippy-tappy" like Barcelona. Well, not that either.

So do both sides play in a way that's not "tippy-tappy" but isn't "hoof" either? Beat me with a jaffle-iron, there must be more than two ways to play football! Who would have guessed?

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Interesting that your required qualities don't include talent. 'Twas ever thus in the Hooflands of s2.

Pace, Power, Possession, positive intent and "never say die"? Hang on.......... Mmmm........................Yes.................... Over here...............
.................Another one for Tug-O-War.

Are you on drugs?

 

[metalblade]

Maybe if he was on drugs he'd make more sense

 

[MBoreman]

We will struggle to create anything with the dirth of skill we have at full back - not one of them - McMahon, Westlake, Hill, Williams et al have the necessary pace, skill or ability to attack down the wings and create opportunities - all the lot of them are stealing a living getting paid for such inept and embarrassing performances.

I agree in this system we need different full backs, but I think McMahon and Hill are both good, solid players so that's a bit harsh. They both look to be making a conscious effort to get forward more, sadly it just isn't within their capabilities now, with Hill that might be age, with McMahon he's lost a yard of pace and maybe had his confidence knocked since picking up a bad injury.

 

[BerksBlade]

I agree that Hill's a good solid pro - it's just that bombing forward isn't in his nature. McMahon I'm less happy with - there's talent there but he just seems like a yellow/red card waiting to happen every game.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Maybe we were spoilt by the likes of Naughton, Walker, Lowton, Harley et al
McMahon gets a nose bleed if he passes the half way line, an accident waiting to happen, very limited ability and no pace!
Hill as you say, a good solid pro but has difficulty adapting to an overlapping attacking role necessary for the formation and style Weir wants to adapt.
Westlake and Williams are a waste of space and McGinty, McGinn have disappeared into the either!!

 

[norfolkblade]

We need to find a meeting ground in the middle of tippy-tappy and hoof, which I believe is fast, flowing, direct football, similar to what Wilson had us playing in his first season.

Everton showed us exactly how it's done superbly in that first half against Newcastle, and that's the style I'd like us to aim for.

At the moment we seem to be far too obsessed with doing away with this "hoof" tag and gone the polar opposite and it just isn't working, the table simply does not lie.

 

[stannyblade]

If we played how we currently are doing but with pace then more chances should come. I dont care how we play I just want to see us score goals.

 

[judge]

We played the best football in the division the year hoof merchants charlton , hudds and the snorters all pipped us to promotion

How many years of failure will it take before we are finally cleansed of this hoof tag ive never heard associated with us ?