Even if he stays

[Pollingtonblade]

The thing about him carrying on in the pub has cropped up a few times on this forum, all heresay of course loads have alluded to stuff but not actually said what he's done.

Best thing Wilder could do is give up the ale really.

 

[UTB Blade]

I think it's fucked now.

I don't know one Blade, in person, who has any respect for him as a person. Most have appreciation of how well he did in terms of results this season. Everyone things he's a cnut.

If he stays now, with all the stuff going round, I can't imagine it will end in anything other than a really bad situation.

Having had the privilege on several occasions of being in the same pub as him and his mates, I have zero doubt he's a major cnut.

He's not the kind of person I would ever want to be anywhere near.

To be a professional? To not be a pathetic cunt who goes out on the piss singing pathetic songs about another team's manager?

Or does interviews about 'lefties' or kicks off about someone eating a sandwich.

While, at the same time, refuses to take any responsibility for anything.

How is this hard? How do you expect this club to become established in the top slight when the person in charge thinks he's manging a pub team?

~Posts vile unpleasant abuse aimed at someone who's spent large parts of his career helping us, and giving us fantastic memories.~

~Calls that person a c...~

Chris Wilder reading your abusive remarks:

 

[robbiez666]

~Posts vile unpleasant abuse aimed at someone who's spent large parts of his career helping us, and giving us fantastic memories.~

~Calls that person a c...~

Chris Wilder reading these remarks you've made:

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It's a fair comment if you weren't painting the guy who skulked out the back door with millions as doing it for the love of his club.

 

[Bladesdoc]

A few comments about behaviour in this thread. In every profession, there has been a change in behaviours expected from the senior leaders. Some find it easier than others to adapt. In my profession, some of the best surgeons I’ve worked with when I was younger have been the rudest , most arrogant , most dismissive of other people that you could think of. But you would really want them to do your surgery as they were the best. Old school behaviour was operate all day , then get pissed up and try it on with the nurses. Work hard , play hard. Now it’s work hard and be careful what you say or do the rest of the time. All a bit ‘woke’ ?? In every profession through the land there are 50 something doctors / lawyers / bankers / chief executives etc trying to wrestle with the new ways of working and living and wondering why things aren’t like their bosses did it in the 80s and 90s. So what’s next for us ? Carry on with old school who knows his job inside out doing it the old fashioned way , make the old dog learn new tricks or appoint the recent trainee who knows all the new techniques and has completed all their mandatory training but might be all corporate with no real experience of how to get the job done ?

 

[Blade45]

Calling him a cunt is way too far. He's made a fool of himself every now and then, but he also became manager in 2016 when we were halfway down League 1 and took us to the Premier League by 2019, playing some brilliant football along the way. He deserves credit for that. I haven't been too pleased with some of the performances this season, but we were only 90 minutes from a return to the Premier League.

I don't know if he should be manager next season, but he isn't a cunt.

 

[FTPE]

I think it's fucked now.

I don't know one Blade, in person, who has any respect for him as a person. Most have appreciation of how well he did in terms of results this season. Everyone things he's a cnut.

If he stays now, with all the stuff going round, I can't imagine it will end in anything other than a really bad situation.

Who put 50p in this guy?
You're not my spokesman shag.

 

[robbiez666]

I think it's fucked now.

I don't know one Blade, in person, who has any respect for him as a person. Most have appreciation of how well he did in terms of results this season. Everyone thinks he's a cnut.

If he stays now, with all the stuff going round, I can't imagine it will end in anything other than a really bad situation.

Who put 50p in this guy?
You're not my spokesman shag.

Never said I was.

 

[derfblade.3]

It's a fair comment if you weren't painting the guy who skulked out the back door with millions as doing it for the love of his club.

I was talking to a Wendy pal of mine today and you sound, word for word, just like him. Are you pork?

 

[North Riding Blade]

I'm a cunt. Never denied it.

However, I'm not the public face of a multi-million pound sports team with a public profile across the world. Getting paid millions for doing so.

I'm just a cunt and a nonentity who doesn't get paid enough to buy a house.

Because a football manager isn't paid just to manage a football team. They're the public face of a football team.

The first sentence said it all. No need to to go on.

 

[nopigfansintown]

I think it's fucked now.

I don't know one Blade, in person, who has any respect for him as a person. Most have appreciation of how well he did in terms of results this season. Everyone things he's a cnut.

If he stays now, with all the stuff going round, I can't imagine it will end in anything other than a really bad situation.

I don't know one Blade in person who doesn't love Wilder. Funny that. It's an online phenomenon of no more than a few hundred malcontents. You have a lot of pigs mixed in with that (they're absolutely delighted at the prospect of Wilder leaving). The malcontents are never happy anyway and will turn on the new guy the first chance they get so who cares. They're the people Warnock said "they'll be shouting me out next week" when we were 4-0 up against Leeds on the documentary.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Having had the privilege on several occasions of being in the same pub as him and his mates, I have zero doubt he's a major cnut.

He's not the kind of person I would ever want to be anywhere near.

Having been around him a few times he was kind, obliging and had time for everyone. Went out of his way to look after people. His players have been the same. I think you're more likely describing yourself. The Wilder haters are crackpots.

 

[robbiez666]

I was talking to a Wendy pal of mine today and you sound, word for word, just like him. Are you pork?

I'm definitely not like your friend.

 

[CPB]

It's a fair comment if you weren't painting the guy who skulked out the back door with millions as doing it for the love of his club.

Do you actually fully believe that's entirely what happened? Think about the context of that information coming out via the prince.

Then think that the prince after making up with CW hired him back in 2023.

You ain't doing that if you've thought that employee has fleeced the company.

It will have ended up being some sort of pay out but not the amount your thinking.

And that is very normal in the football world. Which is very different to the real one.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Do you actually fully believe that's entirely what happened? Think about the context of that information coming out via the prince.

Then think that the prince after making up with CW hired him back in 2023.

You ain't doing that if you've thought that employee has fleeced the company.

It will have ended up being some sort of pay out but not the amount your thinking.

And that is very normal in the football world. Which is very different to the real one.

Schrödinger's Wilder: resigned yet got a 4 million pay off and reappointed by the same guy.

Don't ask for any logic. Mindless hate is what they deal in.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Schrödinger's Wilder: resigned yet got a 4 million pay off and reappointed by the same guy.

Don't ask for any logic. Mindless hate is what they deal in.

PA said £4m was his opening shot (my words). No one ever stated he was paid that. No one.

 

[sitwell]

I think it's fucked now.

I don't know one Blade, in person, who has any respect for him as a person. Most have appreciation of how well he did in terms of results this season. Everyone things he's a cnut.

If he stays now, with all the stuff going round, I can't imagine it will end in anything other than a really bad situation.

I doubt you know many Blades at all. You come across as real scum on this thread.

 

[UTB Blade]

It's a fair comment if you weren't painting the guy who skulked out the back door with millions as doing it for the love of his club.

a) I didn't paint him as anything - nowhere did I say that he was "doing it for the love of his club". I simply stated facts:

• He has spent large parts of his career helping us.
• He has given us fantastic memories. (Or, at least, he's given fantastic memories to those of us who have the capacity to appreciate it.)

b)There is no justification for the level of abuse you aimed at him.

c)The abuse you aimed at him is still one of the most stunning examples of what psychologists call 'projection', I've ever seen.

 

[robbiez666]

He has spent large parts of his career helping us

Helping us?

We gave him his big break and he repaid the club handsomely.

Its a job though. You make it sound like he managed us out of the goodness of his own heart.

In fairness he stayed out when Barcelona and Arsenal came calling.

 

[Tezza1889]

"Not forgetting trying to fight the opposition players in the tunnel."

What match was that?

Plymouth, he turned on two players next to the tunnel as he walked off.

Everybody saw it..

 

[UTB Blade]

Helping us?

We gave him his big break and he repaid the club handsomely.

Its a job though. You make it sound like he managed us out of the goodness of his own heart.

In fairness he stayed out when Barcelona and Arsenal came calling.

Whether you like it or not, and regardless of his motives, he helped us.

If you can't see that getting us out of League One, after five miserable years of being laughed at by all and sundry including Crawley Town, being knocked out of the play offs by Yeovil Town FFS, and being left by that cretin Adkins in our lowest league position in three decades FFS, was helping us, then there doesn't seem much point in discussing it with you.

Although I suspect that you can see that taking us from bottom half League One to the PL was helping us, it's just that you can't - or won't - appreciate it. Your loss.

 

[loyalblade95]

Do you actually fully believe that's entirely what happened? Think about the context of that information coming out via the prince.

Then think that the prince after making up with CW hired him back in 2023.

You ain't doing that if you've thought that employee has fleeced the company.

It will have ended up being some sort of pay out but not the amount your thinking.

And that is very normal in the football world. Which is very different to the real one.

Its like the whole Sean Bean-Warnock saga, we could hear 2 sides to that story (which we have) and we might never know the full truth, pretty sure both of them left out details about what actually happened in that room that day.

Unless there is some completely neutral middle man who witnessed exactly what happened with CW and the Prince, we'll never know the full truth as we might only ever hear differing stories from the 2 of them who might be reluctant to admit to certain details.

 

[Tom Bott]

To not be a pathetic cunt who goes out on the piss singing pathetic songs about another team's manager?

It must have been a real disappointment for you to hear 25000 of OUR fans singing that 'pathetic' song at the Lane then.

Or is that not acceptable to you either?

 

[Maurice Maurice]

Helping us?

We gave him his big break and he repaid the club handsomely.

Its a job though. You make it sound like he managed us out of the goodness of his own heart.

In fairness he stayed out when Barcelona and Arsenal came calling.

I get there are different characters that post on here, and we have many different personalities also but your endless ranting at everything Chris Wilder suggests you have a few issues. If you're that fucking wound up about him go and fucking tell him. You know where he drinks, you know where to find him, if it bothers you that much then rather than give it Billy Big Bollocks on here, say it to his fucking face. Otherwise why not shut the fuck up, fuck off back to Swillsborough or come back and tell us how your face to face with him went if you pluck up the courage to front him up.

 

[ShorehamRevolution]

Having had the privilege on several occasions of being in the same pub as him and his mates, I have zero doubt he's a major cnut.

He's not the kind of person I would ever want to be anywhere near.

I’m sure there’s a lot of people that would say the same about you… myself included but I wouldn’t want you to lose your job or call for you to be sacked just because I don’t agree with something you’ve said unless it was something very extreme.

 

[Bookers Mullet]

Don't know the bloke from Adam

Do I like the off field persona who projects? I do, especially as it winds pigs and Leeds fans. Do I give tu'penny fuck what other teams fans think of us? No.

Greatest manager we've had in my lifetime, and definitely a blades legend, think the OP, is out of order.

Saying that i do think it's time for a change, but that's nothing to do with Chris as a person, purely for football reasons. If he does stay, I'd have no problems with that.

 

[WorcBlade]

I have the utmost respect for the job Chris Wilder has done especially his first stint starting in 2016. Having said that the evidence is clear that he has been bypassed tactically and he has a tendency to react badly in pressure situations. Last season was a clear example of this. Here are some examples

Plymouth - Home team set up poorly. We got away with a win poor finishing by the opposition gave use the three points

Portsmouth - Home. See above

Hull - Home - got found out tactically no plan B

Leeds - Lost twice - team selection at Leeds was poor. At home - done tactically in the second half. No answer or plan B

Burnley - Out done tactically in both games - no plan B

Millwal - Home - Out done tactically - couldn’t get around a low block defence - No plan B

Oxford - away - see above

Plymouth - away - see above

Sunderland - Playoff final - out done tactically in the second half backed off and allowed Sunderland room to play - No plan B

Overall we benefitted from the division being poor apart from the top 6. The football was boring for the most part with Wilder sticking with player that are error prone. JLT etc

As with all businesses change is a constant. What was good in 2016 is not good now. Chris Wilder’s approach hasn’t evolved meaning he is being bypassed

In my humble opinion it time for a change

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Plymouth, he turned on two players next to the tunnel as he walked off.

Everybody saw it..

Aye
Absolutely
So not actually In the tunnel then?

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I have respect for him as a person. Doesn't mean I like everything about him, but I certainly have respect for him

Cut him some slack. For the last 10 years or so he's been thrown in at a higher level with far more pressure and scrutiny than he was ever previously used to

 

[Big.Dane.w]

Surround someone with the wrong people and getting a few pints in them never works well.

I know most of wilders mates (the ones he knocks around with in Sheffield) very well and I like all of them (including Wit) but whenever Wilder has been there I’ve just always thought he seems a bit of a Bellend i’ve never thought it about any of his pals though

 

[54yrblade]

Whether you like it or not, and regardless of his motives, he helped us.

If you can't see that getting us out of League One, after five miserable years of being laughed at by all and sundry including Crawley Town, being knocked out of the play offs by Yeovil Town FFS, and being left by that cretin Adkins in our lowest league position in three decades FFS, was helping us, then there doesn't seem much point in discussing it with you.

Although I suspect that you can see that taking us from bottom half League One to the PL was helping us, it's just that you can't - or won't - appreciate it. Your loss.

Worth remembering that Adkins lead his team around BDTBL and, with them, took the anger and abuse from our fans after the 0-2 v Scunthorpe in May '16.

CW disappeared, to where and why has not yet been explained, on the final whistle at Wembley. His team had every right to expect him with them right then.

He's brought us some fabulous memories but when the lead 'culture carrier' fails to lead in their toughest moment, then we should speak of it too. That's very much part a lasting part of his legacy and should also be remembered.

A sad final ending to the Wilder era, if the media mood music proves correct in the next few days.

Front and centre, always, when things were good. Hands off and no public ownership when things went pear shaped.

I had some incredible leaders in my career who I would work for again in a heartbeat

We moved on quickly from those who quit on us or blamed everyone else but themselves when things got tough.

It's not about what people say in great times, that's easy. It is about what they do when it's coming on top.