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[Nedski]

This chimes with what I’ve been told by various people who would know.

This old school approach is what is holding him/us back from genuine success. It'll work for a handful of footballers but since Wilder V1 our squad has rarely contained many athletes. Most teams are full of athletes nowadays, most of which take incredible care of their bodies and what they put in them. Seriki stands out in our team because he is pure lean muscle. It must be incredibly difficult to maintain that sort of physique when your manager encourages pub sessions and gets shirty if you don't indulge. I get that it's wilder's way of team building but it must be the worst way to do it with pro athletes.

It's probably part of the reason he failed at Boro and Watford. Most players at this level take these things seriously and would struggle to relate to or understand why their manager would brag about 15 double gins at an awards ceremony.

 

[Nick Jansky]

This old school approach is what is holding him/us back from genuine success. It'll work for a handful of footballers but since Wilder V1 our squad has rarely contained many athletes. Most teams are full of athletes nowadays, most of which take incredible care of their bodies and what they put in them. Seriki stands out in our team because he is pure lean muscle. It must be incredibly difficult to maintain that sort of physique when your manager encourages pub sessions and gets shirty if you don't indulge. I get that it's wilder's way of team building but it must be the worst way to do it with pro athletes.

It's probably part of the reason he failed at Boro and Watford. Most players at this level take these things seriously and would struggle to relate to or understand why their manager would brag about 15 double gins at an awards ceremony.

Professional football in England and heavy drinking went together since the 60s and continued for many years, destroying the lives of a lot of players in retirement. I’ve met quite a few of them. It’s definitely an old school attitude which has generally been erased from the very top of the game. But it’s still around and in these days of small margins if a club still has that sort of culture it creates a ceiling that a club cannot rise beyond. I know numerous overseas players have been shocked at the unprofessional attitudes they have found in some English clubs.

But fans like to think they are “one of us”.

 

[Frank the tank]

It's interesting, I'd almost forgotten about Wilder wanting to send David Brooks out to Chesterfield.

He does seem to have an issue with youngsters and more reversed characters.

Like this fella

 

[AWetFlannel]

He does seem to have taken in what was said about not winning anything with kids.
Another example is the play off final when our second top scorer and chance creator, JRS was not even on the bench

Yet we've had one of the youngest first XIs in the league for the past few seasons...

I'm not suggesting there's nothing to say about the sort of player Wiler prefers, but that applies to any manager. The insinuation that he goes beyond that, freezing out quality youngsters that would benefit the team, doesn't have enough evidence without the aid of rumour and bias.

 

[mattbianco1]

I was told by someone ITK that Wilder was not refusing to play Ndiaye because he did not rate him. Wilder was not playing him at the direction of the club because Ndiaye would not use the agent that the club wanted him to use, who the club pressures all of the junior players to engage. Ndiaye and his family wanted someone else. In the end, the club blinked first, and a new deal was agreed with Ndiaye's preferred agent prior to the Peterborough game.

Don’t buy that for a second, all the youth players have different agents (it’s fairly easy to check who anyone over 18 is with). It also doesn’t explain why he was so keen to flog him to Barnsley until the club vetoed it.

More like Wilder froze him out because he wouldn’t use Paul Martin.

I'm pretty sure at the time there was a contract issue preventing him playing in the first team.
Slav played him as soon as it was ironed out and that was that.

I could be wrong, but that's my recollection

 

[mattbianco1]

I'm pretty sure at the time there was a contract issue preventing him playing in the first team.
Slav played him as soon as it was ironed out and that was that.

I could be wrong, but that's my recollection

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CONFIRMED Thread 'Iliman Ndiaye signs new contract to 2024'

Aug 22, 2019

Trialed for us in January and seems to have signed from Boreham Wood. Small, skilful midfielder:



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[Nick Jansky]

Edit.

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CONFIRMED Thread 'Iliman Ndiaye signs new contract to 2024'

Aug 22, 2019

Trialed for us in January and seems to have signed from Boreham Wood. Small, skilful midfielder:



More about his background here:

• Bergen Blade
• Replies: 660
• Forum: General Blades Chat

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There was a contract issue, but I think it’s maybe got conflated with youngsters being pressured to sign with a particular agent in Warnock’s day. The agent in question being Warnock’s son.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I was told by someone ITK that Wilder was not refusing to play Ndiaye because he did not rate him. Wilder was not playing him at the direction of the club because Ndiaye would not use the agent that the club wanted him to use, who the club pressures all of the junior players to engage. Ndiaye and his family wanted someone else. In the end, the club blinked first, and a new deal was agreed with Ndiaye's preferred agent prior to the Peterborough game.

I wonder how the agent may have got his own back in the future?!

 

[Balham]

their manager would brag about 15 double gins at an awards ceremony.

Please tell me this isn’t a thing.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Please tell me this isn’t a thing.

Would it surprise you if it was?

 

[Balham]

Would it surprise you if it was?

Sadly no.

 

[bertieblade]

.

 

[Rodley]

This old school approach is what is holding him/us back from genuine success. It'll work for a handful of footballers but since Wilder V1 our squad has rarely contained many athletes. Most teams are full of athletes nowadays, most of which take incredible care of their bodies and what they put in them. Seriki stands out in our team because he is pure lean muscle. It must be incredibly difficult to maintain that sort of physique when your manager encourages pub sessions and gets shirty if you don't indulge. I get that it's wilder's way of team building but it must be the worst way to do it with pro athletes.

It's probably part of the reason he failed at Boro and Watford. Most players at this level take these things seriously and would struggle to relate to or understand why their manager would brag about 15 double gins at an awards ceremony.

I think what holds us back now, and always has, is poor ownership. Poor (relatively) in most senses of the word.

 

[Nedski]

Please tell me this isn’t a thing.

Listen to the Colin Murray 52 interview. It's actually a really good interview overall. He talks a bit about drinking cultures in football (and definitely sounds in favour of it), Coutts and madine having a drunken punch up, then talks about being hammered at the LMA award ceremony when he won manager of the year (which was fully deserved!). I can't remember the exact the amount of gins but I remember thinking he must be exaggerating as it was a lot!

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Piss head wilder must be on booze when he's given munneh to spend!

 

[Berkshire Blade]

We'll always have a few moments in pre season where we thought you had a little bit of pace