Does JCR have a future at BDTBL?

[brownie4583]

Does JCR have a future with us,will he be given a chance to sort himself and get a shirt for next season?
I know his final ball needs improving but he always caused opposing defences problems running at them,and I think he would be a good player to have in the squad for next season.
What are your thoughts?

 

[ZoneManWilf]

I think he'll have a chance to prove himself with the new management team, like the rest of the squad.

He does have quality in him, he's just inconsistent, look at the QPR match last year for what he's capable of. He could be a classic case of better man management and specific coaching translating into improved performances on the pitch. I do worry about a Freeman/JCR combination down the right defensively though, if the beard was fit I'd be happier. Flynn provides us a better all round solution on the right wing as it stands. The unknown is Che Adams and where Adkins may see him fitting, he's got a lot of potential and could play on either wing or up front from what we've seen so far.

 

[Blade82]

I think Adkins will look to improve on what we have down the right.

At Southampton he signed Richard Chaplow in this league. Who is more of a David cotterill type winger, better delivery, more assists and goals than what we have. Can see him going for someone similar. Experienced maybe in a higher league who frightens not only fullbacks, when running at them, but centre backs because of the quality of the ball coming in. someone who can be relied upon home or away too week in week out. Who though??... Pass... But I'm positive he will bring someone in looking at how he's got out of this league before.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Jam's final ball was almost always very good. Often across the edge of the six yard box. Sometimes near post, sometimes far post. For whatever reason our forwards weren't on the same wavelength and these rarely resulted in scoring chances. Foulkes Jr Sr maintains that these crosses would have been ideal for Done and I think he might be right: they were ideal for a poacher to feed off.

 

[Guesty]

Jam's final ball was almost always very good. Often across the edge of the six yard box. Sometimes near post, sometimes far post. For whatever reason our forwards weren't on the same wavelength and these rarely resulted in scoring chances. Foulkes Jr Sr maintains that these crosses would have been ideal for Done and I think he might be right: they were ideal for a poacher to feed off.

The problem it seemed to me was that he always played the same ball throughout a match. If he first cross was driven to the near post, then next 10 would be too. If the first was stood up to the back post then so would the rest be.

 

[Grappler]

Jam's final ball was almost always very good. Often across the edge of the six yard box. Sometimes near post, sometimes far post. For whatever reason our forwards weren't on the same wavelength and these rarely resulted in scoring chances. Foulkes Jr Sr maintains that these crosses would have been ideal for Done and I think he might be right: they were ideal for a poacher to feed off.

He fired a few great low crosses across the goal line at Milton Keynes last season, where anyone sticking a toe out would have scored, unfortunately the Blades players just watched it roll past, like spectators. That must be frustrating for any player trying to assist.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

The problem it seemed to me was that he always played the same ball throughout a match. If he first cross was driven to the near post, then next 10 would be too. If the first was stood up to the back post then so would the rest be.

Disagree. Me and Foulkes Jr Sr once spent a half just focusing on Jam's crossing, and it would've been hard to improve on it: dangerous areas and a good mixture.

It was a real mystery why we weren't scoring or even getting chances. I posted about this around that time. I could only think that it often took him some time to beat his man, though he usually did, that the normal runs into the box were no longer effective. It may also have been that we didn't have a poacher. Done may be that player.

The ineffectiveness of Jam's crosses is still a mystery, but it's not bc he routinely blasts them into the crowd.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

He fired a few great low crosses across the goal line at Milton Keynes last season, where anyone sticking a toe out would have scored, unfortunately the Blades players just watched it roll past, like spectators. That must be frustrating for any player trying to assist.

Yes! And it wasn't just the MKD game. Me and FJS ended up thinking we'd've just got face on and given up as the crosses were excellent and no-one got anywhere near them.

 

[Grappler]

Yes! And it wasn't just the MKD game. Me and FJS ended up thinking we'd've just got face on and given up as the crosses were excellent and no-one got anywhere near them.

The "...ball rolling along goal line, please stick a toe out and tap it in..." thing, seemed to be a Blades trait until the arrival of Matty Done, he is exactly the sort of player to grab those opportunities, so is McNulty, but being on the bench meant he couldn't!

 

[FTPE]

Jam's final ball was almost always very good. Often across the edge of the six yard box. Sometimes near post, sometimes far post. For whatever reason our forwards weren't on the same wavelength and these rarely resulted in scoring chances. Foulkes Jr Sr maintains that these crosses would have been ideal for Done and I think he might be right: they were ideal for a poacher to feed off.

Every now and then I hear a quote that reminds me that some people see football in a complete different way to others.
JCR was the worst crosser of the ball I think I've ever seen! I like him, I'd give him another chance under Adkins but I had to laugh when you described his crosses as "almost always very good".

 

[e17blade]

Every now and then I hear a quote that reminds me that some people see football in a complete different way to others.
JCR was the worst crosser of the ball I think I've ever seen! I like him, I'd give him another chance under Adkins but I had to laugh when you described his crosses as "almost always very good".

I am with you - one of the worst crossers of the ball I've seen in a long time. Not to say he didn't sometimes have a good moment, but on average very very poor.

Having said that, I met him once with my son and he was a top bloke. Doesn't help with his delivery though.

 

[Punk Blade]

Richard Chaplow in this league. Who is more of a David cotterill type winger,

Chaplow a winger? I always thought he was CM.

I remember him impressing me for Burnley in his early days and I expected a better career than he's had.

 

[sitwell]

Disagree. Me and Foulkes Jr Sr once spent a half just focusing on Jam's crossing, and it would've been hard to improve on it: dangerous areas and a good mixture.

It was a real mystery why we weren't scoring or even getting chances. I posted about this around that time. I could only think that it often took him some time to beat his man, though he usually did, that the normal runs into the box were no longer effective. It may also have been that we didn't have a poacher. Done may be that player.

The ineffectiveness of Jam's crosses is still a mystery, but it's not bc he routinely blasts them into the crowd.

He had McNulty or Baxter to aim for ,both of who simply weren't good enough ,give him a decent forward and he will supply the ammunition.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Is he staying though - thought there was some personal problem that took him back to Notts County. Is this resolved?

 

[DronnieBlade]

No.

Reason.

He isn't good enough.

UTB

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Every now and then I hear a quote that reminds me that some people see football in a complete different way to others.
JCR was the worst crosser of the ball I think I've ever seen! I like him, I'd give him another chance under Adkins but I had to laugh when you described his crosses as "almost always very good".

Based on what?

Me and FJS sat there quantifying this more than once. In one half he put in six crosses, each one was between the edge of the six yard box and the penalty spot. And there was variety: some were driven, some were more near post, some back post. He really could not have done any more other than get on the end of his own crosses and put them in the net. (Deano anyone ?)

And this wasn't unusual. Grappler mentions the MKD game as one example and I'd go as far as to say it happened pretty much every time he played.

That said there must be a reason we didn't score hatfuls but it wasn't because they were overhit, underhit, or obviously misdirected.

Maybe the crosses were poor bc we didn't get on the end of them - or generally anywhere near them - but in terms of putting the ball "in the danger area", he did that pretty much every time.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Is he staying though - thought there was some personal problem that took him back to Notts County. Is this resolved?

A new version. Other versions include:

Cloughie's KKK tendencies
He was getting in the way of the Beard's rampaging runs
And more prosaically
He wanted more guaranteed first team football, as he was slipping down the pecking order

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

Every now and then I hear a quote that reminds me that some people see football in a complete different way to others.
JCR was the worst crosser of the ball I think I've ever seen! I like him, I'd give him another chance under Adkins but I had to laugh when you described his crosses as "almost always very good".

For crosses being "almost always very good", see whispering Bob. Now that boy can deliver some absolute pearlers!

 

[Silent Blade]

I will be surprised if he plays a reasonable number of games for us next season if he hasnt moved elsewhere

 

[FTPE]

Based on what?

Me and FJS sat there quantifying this more than once. In one half he put in six crosses, each one was between the edge of the six yard box and the penalty spot. And there was variety: some were driven, some were more near post, some back post. He really could not have done any more other than get on the end of his own crosses and put them in the net. (Deano anyone ?)

And this wasn't unusual. Grappler mentions the MKD game as one example and I'd go as far as to say it happened pretty much every time he played.

That said there must be a reason we didn't score hatfuls but it wasn't because they were overhit, underhit, or obviously misdirected.

Maybe the crosses were poor bc we didn't get on the end of them - or generally anywhere near them - but in terms of putting the ball "in the danger area", he did that pretty much every time.

I know the idea of forums is to debate, but I feel that strongly about JCR's lack of crossing ability that I don't want to get in a discussion about it, plus like I said people see football differently.
Against Bradford away he ripped their defenders to shreds and repeatedly floated the ball out for throw-ins, goal kicks or straight into the keepers arms. It became a joke and ever since then I've classed his end product as poor.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I know the idea of forums is to debate, but I feel that strongly about JCR's lack of crossing ability that I don't want to get in a discussion about it, plus like I said people see football differently.
Against Bradford away he ripped their defenders to shreds and repeatedly floated the ball out for throw-ins, goal kicks or straight into the keepers arms. It became a joke and ever since then I've classed his end product as poor.

So...based on the Bradford game - which is fair enough.

We didn't see that one.

 

[FTPE]

So...based on the Bradford game - which is fair enough.

We didn't see that one.

No,
Players have good games and bad. I don't put them into a category straight away, I don't write players capabilities off straight away just because of the odd game or two otherwise I'd not like Basham as a player which couldn't be further from the truth.
The Bradford game is where I lost my shit with him. I drew a line in the sand, stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt and concluded-this guy can't cross!
Maybe he's not as bad as I make out, maybe he makes more crossing opportunities than other players and so it just feels like he squanders more, but I believe the only reason he's played in the lower leagues for so long is due to his final product and his consistency.

 

[Barney]

No future at BDTBL for me. Final ball is appalling most times, we need a quality winger that is able to pass somebody and also produce the goods at the cross e.g getting it over the first man and actually keeping it in play would be a start.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

No future at BDTBL for me. Final ball is appalling most times, we need a quality winger that is able to pass somebody and also produce the goods at the cross e.g getting it over the first man and actually keeping it in play would be a start.

Agree . JCR sums up one thing , for any team he will be playing for - mediocrity . That is unacceptable for SUFC next season. Forget United players having one good game in five . Adkins will expect and demand constancy .

UTB

 

[Bladesman]

I would hope so.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I think the new manager will give everyone a fair chance and if JCR performs to his capabilities I have no doubt he will be a part of things. He's a nuisance for any full back to deal with and offers us a few different traits that we don't otherwise have.

One of Clough's most mind boggling decisions was sending him out on loan at a critical stage of the season. Stupid.

 

[Silent Blade]

One of Clough's most mind boggling decisions was sending him out on loan at a critical stage of the season. Stupid.

JCR didnt play many games for Notts County in his loan spell there

 

[sheffielder]

If he's happy for a spot on the bench yes, certainly not good enough for the 1st eleven.

 

[bladesmanluke]

There was a non football reason he went back to County. Also I heard it wasn't because of a fall out with Clough. James Shield tweeted that sometimes it's just better to leave things as they are as they're not for the public to know. I don't think he will be back

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

JCR didnt play many games for Notts County in his loan spell there

Can't comment on that, don't follow them. Just know he was very good for us.