Do you want Wednesday to go into liquidation and (presumably) start again as a Phoenix club?

[shorehamview]

If their fans were sensible and acted differently, I may feel more empathetic towards them.

Even now in this current situation they feel they have this god-given right to be taken over by the richest of the rich to put them "back where they belong".

If they did go bust, it's about time as they have been ran like this for years and years. Obviously owners have a lot to do with it, but their fans are equally as accountable for letting it go on so long, and then happen again and again

This.

They keep banging on about their "rightful place" telling all and sundry that they belong in the Premier League, and that they're a massive club. Their rightful place is wherever they are right now, and they are not a massive club. Try telling them that though.

A few relegations would hopefully go some way towards shutting them up, and if they went tits up and had to start again then tough shit. They weren't maoning abiut Chansiri when he arrived and started spaffing money about. They can reap what they've sown.

 

[The Crab]

I keep hearing in the media (most recently from Kieran Maguire on the Price of Football) that "even Sheffield United fans want Wednesday to survive".

I don't. I want them to fail to get a buyer, go into liquidation and playing in a park somewhere as a phoenix club. I want them gone.

What is the prevailing sentiment on this board? Please vote.

How does he know what we want?

Fuck ‘em

 

[HillStreet Blade]

"No pig fans in town, no Hillsborough to sadden my eyes". This has been my hope for a long time.

 

[gordoncharles]

No, I don't want The Middlewood Development Company to go out of business, but that only comes with the proviso that they remain in our shadow - which sadly cannot be guaranteed.

When I see Wednesday's very shirt I have an almost Pavlovian response as my nostrils are somehow filled with that smell you get when you open the washing machine door and realise you forgot to empty it three days ago. If that smell could be bottled it would be called "Arrogance".

I think on balance I'd prefer a Bradford City - Bradford Park Avenue situation. Though on an elevated level in our case, naturally. But we don't always get what we want.

 

[Selly]

Voted yes - but its very much dependent on quite how far down the pyramid the phoenix club lands.

If the Phoenix club is still playing at the Sty, and are in the NL/L2 - then it would very much be like they were simply relegated an extra division - but with all debts wiped out - they'd eventually get back to the Championship (just look at what the "new" Rangers did in Jockland.

So liquidated, The Sty demolished, PC in th 9the tier of the Pyramid or whatever - does for me...

 

[The Crab]

If their fans were sensible and acted differently, I may feel more empathetic towards them.

Even now in this current situation they feel they have this god-given right to be taken over by the richest of the rich to put them "back where they belong".

If they did go bust, it's about time as they have been ran like this for years and years. Obviously owners have a lot to do with it, but their fans are equally as accountable for letting it go on so long, and then happen again and again

Any semblance of sympathy left me when they sang die die piggy piggy die when tanganga got put into the advertising boards. It’s a scummy song whoever sings it

 

[The Crab]

Voted yes - but its very much dependent on quite how far down the pyramid the phoenix club lands.

If the Phoenix club is still playing at the Sty, and are in the NL/L2 - then it would very much be like they were simply relegated an extra division - but with all debts wiped out - they'd eventually get back to the Championship (just look at what the "new" Rangers did in Jockland.

So liquidated, The Sty demolished, PC in th 9the tier of the Pyramid or whatever - does for me...

I don’t disagree but rangers were playing pub sides every week on their way back

 

[Bladepicker]

I bet you run the Fallowfield account and have Carlton Palmer pyjamas too don't you?

 

[ChuntyMalone]

I voted yes, but a part of me does worry, deep-down, that without them we might become one of those weird teams with no proper rival that just wobble around like angry toddlers trying to kick off with anyone and everyone.

The perfect example being Coventry - the weirdest fanbase in world football.

Just like settling for the ugly bird who's been throwing eyes your way all night in the club when you've seen your No.1 target thrown out for throwing up on drinks they couldn't afford and haven't paid for... we might have to finally take Hull up on their advances

 

[Selly]

I don’t disagree but rangers were playing pub sides every week on their way back

Right - thats about the relative quality of the leagues - but they started in Tier 4 and were back in Tier 1 within 3 years. Thats not a Phoenix club.

AFC Wimbledon started at level 9 - thats (roughly) where any phoenix club should start. It took them 10 years to get back to the football league.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I voted yes, but a part of me does worry, deep-down, that without them we might become one of those weird teams with no proper rival that just wobble around like angry toddlers trying to kick off with anyone and everyone.

The perfect example being Coventry - the weirdest fanbase in world football.

Maybe second.

 

[Selly]

I voted yes, but a part of me does worry, deep-down, that without them we might become one of those weird teams with no proper rival that just wobble around like angry toddlers trying to kick off with anyone and everyone.

The perfect example being Coventry - the weirdest fanbase in world football.

Ooo, this will be fun - other examples of "rival hunters"

or to put it another way - are you one of those teams whose number 1 rival (from your perspective) isn`t reciprocated - or you simply have no direct rival

• Coventry
• Leeds
• Middlesboro
• Brighton
• Leicester
• Hull
• Reading/Oxford/Swindon
• Barnsley
• Tranmere
• Wrexham
• Notts County (unless Forest do reciprocate, in which case Derby)
• Bury (Oldham?)
• Carlisle
• Preston??
• Wigan?
• Plymouth

 

[brownblade]

Think it'd feel empty if they got liquidated. Realistically suspect a lot of us would actually feel sorry for them.

Their fans would still say they're more famous despite not existing.

I think its good when they're rubbish. Which they have been for ages.

 

[woody_7]

Yes , Yes & twice on sunday YES !

 

[Carlton Blade]

I wish them the worst possible outcome in whatever they do

 

[Cheesebored]

Realistically suspect a lot of us would actually feel sorry for them.

 

[Cheesebored]

In all seriousness I reckon the way many United fans relate to this question is based around age. Some older forum members maybe used to watch both teams on alternate weeks and feel slightly ambivalent about their total demise. For many younger United fans we've been top dogs during their lifetime and although they may hate Wednesday they may not want them to go bust because it's been a piss take and an easy 6 points during their lifetime. However I also believe there's a large group of Blades (of which i fall into) that despise the cunts and all that comes with them. Anyone whose formative years took in Boxing day onwards and through the early nineties when (91 double apart) they were better than us and their fanbase was unbearable will absolutely relish their fall from grace and eventual demise. That's a lot of people. Maybe anyone in the 50 - 65 age bracket. These are the people that will have had to put up with all their shit for years without for many years a chance to put it right. Drink it in while you can and if you know a pig rub it in while you can, hopefully they'll not be around much longer.

 

[ThirdGenBlade]

I voted No.

I don't want them to get a fresh start, and then surge up through the levels like Wrexham (and Rangers).

I want them to have a slow painful slide down through the tiers, so that they gradually become less and less attractive to players and fans over a 5 to 10 year period.

UTB & FTP!

 

[ancientblade]

Any semblance of sympathy left me when they sang die die piggy piggy die when tanganga got put into the advertising boards. It’s a scummy song whoever sings it

me anall crab posted on another thread about that song another poster did say that we sing it as well but i havent heard it for me its their disgusting song add to that objects being thrown at our players and the usual hostile pig reception for our team and fans on swillsbro corner i hope we return the hostility in february when weve got 30k fans behind us

 

[Old Programme seller]

Just imagine if we had no neighbour in our city in may be in 20 years everyone who supported football would become a United fan (in theory) and again just imagine what a one club city could generate as a fan base maybe think Newcastle ? Perhaps it’s pie in the sky I’m not suggesting a merger more of total domination. Am I a bad person now?

 

[Selly]

Maybe anyone in the 50 - 65 age bracket.

I'd say you can extend that down to 45-65 - possibly even 40-65.

Anyone 40 will have been 8/9 at the time of our relegation in 1994 (including a derby loss in the second half of that year) - and then spent 6 years watching them lot in the PL whilst we were in the Championship.

I'm not 50 for another year or so, and don`t recall the BDM (being 3 at the time) - but I despise them - save for one season (when they bloody won a trophy) - we weren`t a division above them until 2003-04 (and again even though they were relegated in 02-03 they managed to beat us at the Sty). That's right through the formative years (i.e. school).

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I recall the last time they were in the shit (before Tuna boy bailed them out) this question being asked and some on here opined "oh, I don't want to see them disappearing"or words to that effect. I said then and I'll say again, I want to see them gone, crushed, destroyed. Burn the rust bucket to the ground and salt the earth afterward.

 

[nopigfansintown]

I've got nothing against the deluded cunts but I'd prefer them dead and a wrecking ball putting to the sty.

 

[Gavlar]

I feel quite sad that so many blades want them gone.
I don't.

There is too much hate in football and sadly in life.

I want them to be bad and get relegated but not more than that.

They are our neighbours after all.

It won't help us and it won't help the city.

I don't live in Sheffield so I guess I don't appreciate the hatred but it feels totally unnecessary.

We will all have friends and probably family who support them.

Let them go down to league 2 and us to the prem.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Obliviation

 

[Selly]

It won't help us

It absolutely would in the long term.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Ooo, this will be fun - other examples of "rival hunters"

or to put it another way - are you one of those teams whose number 1 rival (from your perspective) isn`t reciprocated - or you simply have no direct rival

• Coventry
• Leeds
• Middlesboro
• Brighton
• Leicester
• Hull
• Reading/Oxford/Swindon
• Barnsley
• Tranmere
• Wrexham
• Notts County (unless Forest do reciprocate, in which case Derby)
• Bury (Oldham?)
• Carlisle
• Preston??
• Wigan?
• Plymouth

Well Preston’s is Blackpool, Wrexham Chester, Brighton’s Palace.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

I will get pelters for this, and it probably stems from the fact that I moved away from Sheffield when I was a small boy, but I'd love to see us, Wednesday, and Leeds (yes I know) back in the Premier League.

What makes football exciting for me is competition, and competition always feels more exciting and sweeter when it's against your bitter rivals.

It's not about wanting them to do well, but imagine an opening Premier League game at BDTBL against Wednesday or Leeds, just adds spice and intrigue for me.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Only the closet pigs on here will vote no.

Hate them, hate their fans. Even their fans who I am mates with I hate when it comes to their football views. Get them out of business and in the fucking bin, playing Park Steels in their next big local derby. Fuck them, let us rise to be the one club on the city. They can be our Notts County in a few seasons and even that is me being generous.

Closet pig?…..Moi?

 

[bornablade]

I recall some years ago a similar question being asked on this forum.

Back then one poster said 'Wednesday are like the brother you grew up with, always fighting, always arguing but if they weren't there you wouldn't half miss them.'

Having said that I want the gap between us to be as large as possible.