Diego

[sheffielder]

Never seen him say so I can't say whether he is ready or not. I do wonder why 16 to 18 year olds are more ready to play at places like Derby County but we should wrap ours in cotton wool. What's the worst thing that could happen, lose to Yeovil at home? ooops

 

[sitwell]

the game is littered with players who were played too young and ended up in the non leagues.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Never seen him say so I can't say whether he is ready or not. I do wonder why 16 to 18 year olds are more ready to play at places like Derby County but we should wrap ours in cotton wool. What's the worst thing that could happen, lose to Yeovil at home? ooops

You need to look at the build of players like Huddlestone who played at Derby while very young. Compare that to Diego and you might be nearer to your answer.

 

[sheffielder]

Best not give him a game then, just incase he is one of the non league type!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Never seen him say so I can't say whether he is ready or not. I do wonder why 16 to 18 year olds are more ready to play at places like Derby County but we should wrap ours in cotton wool. What's the worst thing that could happen, lose to Yeovil at home? ooops

We do seem to be able to bring on youngsters who can cut it at the top level so perhaps our pace of introduction is not too far off?

 

[sheffielder]

You need to look at the build of players like Huddlestone who played at Derby while very young. Compare that to Diego and you might be nearer to your answer.

How big is Diego then? can't find anything on his size, but I see Mason Bennett the 16 year old who scored the other week isn't exactly Huddlestone build. What about Jack Wilshere etc;?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Best not give him a game because our crowd will expect miracles and then boo him if he can't win the game single handed.
He's just got MOM in an international under 17s match, he plays regularly for our under 21s maybe we just need to be a little bit patient.
He isn't the strongest, he doesn't like to tackle and he doesn't have a physical presence against fully establish professional footballers. Nothing wrong with any of that at his age, and even against those 3-4 years older than him he can boss games, but I think its a lot to expect him to hold his own in the first team at this moment in time.
Why not introduce him from the bench when we have a game won, with a settled side little by little?

 

[sheffielder]

I don't think anyone would consider putting him in the starting 11 every week and making him change his name to Maradona, but surely it gives us something a little different when trying to change the game than bringing on Cresswell. We made some pretty pointless subs yesterday

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

How big is Diego then? can't find anything on his size, but I see Mason Bennett the 16 year old who scored the other week isn't exactly Huddlestone build. What about Jack Wilshere etc;?

Jack Wilshere, this is who we are comparing Diego to now?
Brilliant.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I don't think anyone would consider putting him in the starting 11 every week and making him change his name to Maradona, but surely it gives us something a little different when trying to change the game than bringing on Cresswell. We made some pretty pointless subs yesterday

You'd bring him on instead of Cresswell as a replacement for Kitson?

Perfectly proving my point about the hype. Most haven't seen him play or know anything about him, but are convinced he should have already been in the squad purely based on a couple of posters on BMs hyped opinion of him.
Good luck Diego, you're going to need it.

 

[sheffielder]

I have no idea Bob, never seen him play but can it be any worse. You have seen him, you tell me what type of player he is?

We have to do something a little different as cresswell, Kitson and Ironside are pretty similar. Personally I don't know if Flynn was injured but I would have stuck Blackman upfront because he certainly isn't a winger

 

[sheffielder]

Jack Wilshere, this is who we are comparing Diego to now?
Brilliant.

Stop being a dick, i mean't in size

 

[sheffielder]

You'd bring him on instead of Cresswell as a replacement for Kitson?

Perfectly proving my point about the hype. Most haven't seen him play or know anything about him, but are convinced he should have already been in the squad purely based on a couple of posters on BMs hyped opinion of him.
Good luck Diego, you're going to need it.

Again, never seen him play but I am asking you these questions. I am not telling you he should be playing. Jesus, is your g string riding high or something

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Not being a dick, you are saying Diego should be involved more despite the points I've raised because Jack Wilshere played 14 games for Bolton aged 18.
Its almost as laughable as Diegos dad playing for Napoli.

He is a very good prospect, I'm not going to add to the stupid hype machine anymore than that. Its unfair on him and the manager as proven by people like yourself who've never seen him play demanding that he's on the park.
How do you know he deserves his place?

 

[sheffielder]

Not being a dick, you are saying Diego should be involved more despite the points I've raised because Jack Wilshere played 14 games for Bolton aged 18.
Its almost as laughable as Diegos dad playing for Napoli.

Tell me where I have said he should be involved. The only thing I have said that was close was it might have been a better sub to Cresswell (I would be a better sub than Cresswell). The rest have my posts have been asking you about him. You have obviously seen him play and I am ASKING what type of player he is, how big he is etc; and why if small framed would he be any different to Jack Wilshere, not in ability. It's like talking to the wife, stick with the present china

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You say he's a better sub than Cresswell, why do players get games at Derby at his age, he would give us something different etc etc, but you aren't saying you want him involved?
Wilshere is a very special talent, and didn't play regularly till he was 18 and then it was low key from January at Bolton. Diego may be a similar size however Wilshere has always had a fuller build, much like Kyle Walker the season before he broke through. He had the ability but he hadn't filled out and wasn't strong enough. If he'd been introduced then he would also have struggled.
I'm sure Diego will be getting games in the first team sooner rather than later but he isn't going to boss matches.

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[sheffielder]

You say he's a better sub than Cresswell, why do players get games at Derby at his age, he would give us something different etc etc, but you aren't saying you want him involved?[/quote

I asked why a 17 year old lad at our club can't be considered for the 1st team when they can at Derby. There is obviously alot of hype about Diego. More than I can ever remember about any other youngster who has come through the ranks. I am saying anyone would be a better sub than Cresswell although I think I said that before.

anyhow, what type of player is Diego?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

anyhow, what type of player is Diego

A very young promising and talented attacking midfieder/deep lying forward at under 21 level.
If he gets 10 games this season I'm sure he'd be made up.

here is obviously alot of hype about Diego. More than I can ever remember about any other youngster who has come through the ranks.

Entirely due to the internet forums.

It's like talking to the wife, stick with the present china

Maybe you should look at the one constant there? Then again maybe you're right I'm sure its everyone else.

 

[Foxy]

Perfectly proving my point about the hype. Most haven't seen him play or know anything about him, but are convinced he should have already been in the squad purely based on a couple of posters on BMs hyped opinion of him.
Good luck Diego, you're going to need it.

Do feel partly responsible , as until the reports and photos on here and our tweets, I don't think anyone outside a few at the academy had heard of him.

A combination of his name and the current trend of "he's a youngster, he must be class" has caused the hype.

He is, without doubt, a talent and should go on to become a great player if allowed to develop properly.

Whilst I've seen him in a decent amount of games for the academy, my track record in the last few years was suggesting that Naughton was far too lightweight to come through and needed more time building strength and I was suggesting Harry Maguire be brought through long, long before he was even considered.... so not all that great

Let him develop, allow him in and around for the right sort of games (e.g. cup like he was), but keep him grounded and playing most of his football for the academy for the mean time.

Great move giving Willis a pro-contract though.

 

[FleaPitBlade]

Wilson sees him play every day. Whilst hes bossing U21 games its no good putting him the first team if he spends all week bouncing off Neil Collins.

One thing is for certain if was good enough AND physically and mentally ready then its nobodys interests for him not to be playing. That applies to all the pups at Shirecliffe. I trust the combined judgement of the professional coaching staff to make that call.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Whilst I've seen him in a decent amount of games for the academy, my track record in the last few years was suggesting that Naughton was far too lightweight to come through and needed more time building strength and I was suggesting Harry Maguire be brought through long, long before he was even considered.... so not all that great

Naughton and Walker really filled out over a couple of months period though.
I know plenty of the coaching staff thought they were technically ready but lacked their "man strength".

 

[stannyblade]

Never seen him play myself BUT would he have been any worse than most yesterday? Im guessing not.

Now Im not saying he has to start every game but put him on the bench and give him some game time (or someone else will)

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Now Im not saying he has to start every game but put him on the bench and give him some game time (or someone else will)

Not a likely scenario.

He'll get enough game time, if he didn't want to be playing with the United Under 21's he had more than enough offers to go elsewhere prior to signing his contract.

Anyway I'm only adding to the hype machine by posting, I bid this thread adieu.

 

[IOM Blade]

Just to add fuel to the fire i've just seen his goal against Czech Rep. Pure class.

 

[Deleted member 875]

the game is littered with players who were played too young and ended up in the non leagues.

Looking at Phil Jagielka.

Made his debut in 1999/2000, last game of the season
Got the odd brief appearance in 2000/01
Bit part player in 2001/02
One of the stars of the show at 19/20 in the 2002/03 season

 

[Bladesway]

Wilson sees him play every day. Whilst hes bossing U21 games its no good putting him the first team if he spends all week bouncing off Neil Collins.

One thing is for certain if was good enough AND physically and mentally ready then its nobodys interests for him not to be playing. That applies to all the pups at Shirecliffe. I trust the combined judgement of the professional coaching staff to make that call.

At last the voice of someone who has a clue what he is talking about. Leave it with DW and the team, they know when best to drop him in. Picking a guy for a League one fixture is very different to sticking him in with a load of 18 year olds.

Problem with fans in general is we hear someone in the youth academy is decent and they must be better than what we have. Its not always the way but if he is good enough he will get his chance. The people who watch him in training, see him play day in day out are the right people. Half of the people talking about him on here have never actually seen the kid play yet would stick him in there. Or perhaps seen him on youtube. Perhaps Football Manager on the PC has a lot to answer for. I won the Champions League with Doncaster Rovers 4 years running and a bloke called Ramon Calliste scored an average of a goal a game for me. I must be about ready to get my badges eh?

 

[borbokis]

Why do people persist with such negative rubbish? If we sell him it will be for at least £1 million with substantial add-ons.

Maybe I was being a little sarcastic. We do seem to take the first offer that comes along. If we held on to our best players for a bit longer we wouldn't be where we are now but then, I suppose a lot of teams outside the top 4 could say that. Even man U couldn't stop ronaldo nicking off to real

 

[TopBoy]

post: 466429, member: 875"]Looking at Phil Jagielka.

Made his debut in 1999/2000, last game of the season
Got the odd brief appearance in 2000/01
Bit part player in 2001/02
One of the stars of the show at 19/20 in the 2002/03 season

Not helped by Warnock playing him in midfield to begin with.

 

[SwissBlade]

Not helped by Warnock playing him in midfield to begin with.

No, but he still got the Championship players player of the season!