Dear Sheffield Star Lazy Journalist

[TonyAgana]

Is working for The Star living the dream?

Apparently it's in the director's cut of Martin Luther King's speech.

 

[Dkc]

Well, looking at the article it is indeed poor, though as I mentioned this is not necessarily a reflection on the author. There is no verification from the people involved, the police, or the emergency services. The entire article is based on a few posts on this forum, that are probably true but the journo had no way of checking. So first of all the headline should read 'Football fan 'attacked' after Sheffield United match' possibly followed by 'witnesses claim' or 'forum posters claim'. You can't pass something off as factual news after reading a couple of forum posts.

Regarding the Google Earth pic of the location, I have no problem with that as long as they aren't in breach of copyright. I think it's pretty common to use Google Earth these days.

Perhaps Matt would like to come on the forum himself.

 

[PokerBlade]

Shit Newspaper in Shit Article Shocker. A source close to the paper said "We literally couldn't publish any more bollocks".

 

[Dkc]

Good to see they have now corrected the spelling from Bramhall to Bramall

 

[SRBlade]

Don't know if this is elsewhere on the forum, but Sheffield Star, take notes ya shithouses.

 

[stringer]

Take notes from The Sun? No, thanks.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Take notes from The Sun? No, thanks.

Too right. What with the journalistic standards at JP being so high don't sully yourself for the Murdoch shilling. Stay with "Local man finds purse in car park" and subbing Births Marraiges and Deaths

 

[stringer]

Too right. What with the journalistic standards at JP being so high don't sully yourself for the Murdoch shilling. Stay with "Local man finds purse in car park" and subbing Births Marraiges and Deaths

None of which I do. Especially 'Marraiges', whatever they are

 

[stringer]

Well it's a tough job being a journalist, having to actually go outside and report facts. It's much easier to get everything off Twitter.

Danny04 or Hackblade will be along shortly to tell you just how difficult their job is.

The Stir.... sorry The Star is a fine publication and we should be honoured to line our cats litter trays with it.

What do you do for a living then, Bladesman?

 

[Sean Thornton]

None of which I do. Especially 'Marraiges', whatever they are

Apologies. You'll get there once the fat Donny fan gets shoved back to want ads.

Yes btw. Spelling mistake. The Star online contains lots. And they're the "professionals". I'm sure you point it out.

 

[Bladesman]

What do you do for a living then, Bladesman?

What does that matter?

Have any of you at The Star considered actually taking on board the feedback from your readership or former readers (not just on this forum)? or do you find its better to come on the forum and wind up those who question what you publish?

Maybe spend less time on here and more time wondering why JP are losing money every year.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Apologies. You'll get there once the fat Donny fan gets shoved back to want ads.

I'm not too sure. The fat Donny fan Darren Burke (aptly named) is probably 2nd in the pecking order to the equally fat Donny fan Liam Hoden.

By the time poor Danny04 gets there that shit rag will have gone to the wall.

 

[stringer]

What does that matter?

Have any of you at The Star considered actually taking on board the feedback from your readership or former readers (not just on this forum)? or do you find its better to come on the forum and wind up those who question what you publish?

Maybe spend less time on here and more time wondering why JP are losing money every year.

You seem to have a lot of opinions on how an industry you presumably don't work in operates, so I was just curious. I'm always happy to engage with people about the job, but when people actively encourage me to be out of a job it sticks a little bit.
Why JP is losing money is way above my head, I'm afraid; it's a problem for those far smarter than me to solve. And I hope they do!

 

[Sean Thornton]

What does that matter?

Have any of you at The Star considered actually taking on board the feedback from your readership or former readers (not just on this forum)? or do you find its better to come on the forum and wind up those who question what you publish?

Maybe spend less time on here and more time wondering why JP are losing money every year.

It's the same on Facebook. Criticise and the whole team and their Nans come out pretending to be unbiased readers, thinking no one realises.

Remember how Piers Morgan started out....

 

[Sean Thornton]

You seem to have a lot of opinions on how an industry you presumably don't work in operates, so I was just curious. I'm always happy to engage with people about the job, but when people actively encourage me to be out of a job it sticks a little bit.
Why JP is losing money is way above my head, I'm afraid; it's a problem for those far smarter than me to solve. And I hope they do!

Let's hope the cleaner has done a book-keeping course then.

 

[stringer]

Let's hope the cleaner has done a book-keeping course then.

 

[Sean Thornton]

While I understand your feelings regarding wishing you out of a job I would have thought you might have taken into account the less acerbic posts and wondered why the feelings run so high.

I'm sure you wouldn't dismiss the opinion of readers of any particular political bent without actually looking at the reasons given. Because you wouldn't want to alienate them.

Otherwise aren't you exactly like the Sun or Daily Mail?

 

[Tyler Durden]

You seem to have a lot of opinions on how an industry you presumably don't work in operates, so I was just curious. I'm always happy to engage with people about the job, but when people actively encourage me to be out of a job it sticks a little bit.
Why JP is losing money is way above my head, I'm afraid; it's a problem for those far smarter than me to solve. And I hope they do!

Why? There is zero benefit to the local print medias continued existence because there is zero merit in what you do anymore.

You'd have nothing to write about if it wasn't for forums like this for a start. You're little more than parasitic peddlers of lowest-common-denominator bullshit.

I think that goes some way to explaining the state of your dying industry.

 

[Bladesman]

You seem to have a lot of opinions on how an industry you presumably don't work in operates, so I was just curious. I'm always happy to engage with people about the job, but when people actively encourage me to be out of a job it sticks a little bit.
Why JP is losing money is way above my head, I'm afraid; it's a problem for those far smarter than me to solve. And I hope they do!

I think you already have a clear idea of what we as United fans have been unhappy about with regards to the paper. Yet if anything The Star has gone in another direction and has continued to peddle nonsense articles on United.

Your presence on this forum hasn't been to take on board any criticism though, it appears you have come to troll us directly because some wish you to lose your job.

You could actually make difference at The Star and change the way things are done. Maybe win back some of your readership but I don't think you intend to.

 

[Dkc]

There is zero benefit to the local print medias continued existence because there is zero merit in what you do anymore.

Not everyone gets their news online. Some people actually prefer to sit down with a paper or a book than read on their phone or tablet. Are these people irrelevant? Is there no merit in reporting news?

The NUJ's recent campaign entitled 'local news matters' might offer some insight into why local news is still important.

https://www.nuj.org.uk/campaigns/local-news-matters/

You'd have nothing to write about if it wasn't for forums like this for a start. You're little more than parasitic peddlers of lowest-common-denominator bullshit.

I think that goes some way to explaining the state of your dying industry.

The industry isn't dying, it's changing. Unfortunately journalistic standards that used to be a given, like using unique sources, taking time to check sources, meeting contacts in person etc are not always adhered to due to time and cash constraints. Also we are seeing more reporting that seems suspiciously like free advertising (like the Star's recent Donny Airport coverage)

The Star's standards have undoubtedly slipped but I wouldn't describe its journalists "parasitic peddlers of lowest-common-denominator bullshit." Would Sheffield be better off without any local news?

 

[Dkc]

BTW I heard that as a cost-saving measure, the Star is planning to move from its traditional High St home to cheaper premises outside the city centre. I think that would be a real shame. To be part of the community, journos need to mingle with local people, eat and drink in the city centre pubs and cafes. Member of the public should be able to walk in to the Star offices off the street and Star employees should be able to nip out to meet people.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

I defy anyone to state honestly that the Star shows no bias toward the pigs.
From the cringeworthy save "our" pigs campaign in the 70's to the present day "bigging up" of EVERYTHING porcine from some idiot spending hundreds in Hooters,to spinning anything to show them in a good light and ,in truth the only club in the city whilst,as with the Evans saga damning United at every turn whilst the behaviour of Madine and Ranger was overlooked. The star even tried to paint Prince Abdullah as a despot within a medieval regime.
There's no smoke without fire and it isn't coincidence that EVERY Blade I know/speak to holds the Star in complete and utter contempt.
Coming on here and basically coming accross as a bit of a smug smartarse only compounds that opinion.
You might like to start over.
Or not.
Wouldn't wipe my arse with the shithouse paper unless and until it starts treating Sheffield United with respect and as an equal and invaluable asset to the city.

 

[S64 Blade]

The paper continues to deteriorate, presumably due to financial constraints and an inability to attract appropriate talent.

Many of the articles are badly written and littered with grammatical and spelling errors (often headlines too). Mistakes happen of course, but why these issues aren't being checked is beyond me.

My biggest gripe about it though, is the way in which many of the articles are written; which often reminds me of overhearing some mum's gossiping in the school yard, not the kind of prose you'd expect from the biggest newspaper, in one of the largest cities in the country. The social media sites, in particular Facebook, are badly managed; again with whoever is in charge of the page commenting on a news story about something such as someone getting stabbed, saying 'scum of the earth' or something similar. Whilst we all agree with the sentiment, it's not the newspaper's role to pass judgement in this manner. Generally, it reminds me of a mash-up between the Daily Mail and The Sun.

The Star does have it good points and should tap in to this more. There are often interesting articles on local history and non-news related items.

 

[cahill]

Apropos of nothing, I always get quotes from Pratchett's The Truth in my head when reading publications like The Star.

Words resemble fish in that some specialist ones can survive only in a kind of reef, where their curious shapes and usages are protected from the hurly-burly of the open sea. ‘Rumpus’ and ‘fracas’ are found only in certain newspapers (in much the same way that ‘beverages’ are found only in certain menus). They are never used in normal conversation.

Alongside "shocked and stunned" or " amazed and staggered" always descriptions of football matches in the old Green 'in

Although I think when it comes to Jeremy Corbyn, the Press, tabloid and otherwise, are excelling their usual bullshit. " hanging on by a thread" " ranting" " Union Leader warns Corbyn LAST chance"

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I defy anyone to state honestly that the Star shows no bias toward the pigs.
From the cringeworthy save "our" pigs campaign in the 70's to the present day "bigging up" of EVERYTHING porcine from some idiot spending hundreds in Hooters,to spinning anything to show them in a good light and ,in truth the only club in the city whilst,as with the Evans saga damning United at every turn whilst the behaviour of Madine and Ranger was overlooked. The star even tried to paint Prince Abdullah as a despot within a medieval regime.
There's no smoke without fire and it isn't coincidence that EVERY Blade I know/speak to holds the Star in complete and utter contempt.
Coming on here and basically coming accross as a bit of a smug smartarse only compounds that opinion.
You might like to start over.
Or not.
Wouldn't wipe my arse with the shithouse paper unless and until it starts treating Sheffield United with respect and as an equal and invaluable asset to the city.

I have no connection with any newspaper whatsoever. Since joining the forum a few months ago, I have looked at the print version of the Star just about every day, and read the sports sections regularly in the light of comments on here. The Star has many faults. In the last 6 months its reporting has not been biased against United. In my view they are presenting a very positive line on everything good at the Lane at the moment.

 

[RealMcCoy]

I also have no connection with the Star. I do not hold it in contempt.
If I want to read "cringeworthy" reports, or see expressions of unfounded bias and distortions of facts, I wander through threads like these.

 

[Benny and the Blades]

The saddest thing for me about the Star was when it became a morning paper printing yesterdays news, loved it when it was an evening paper printing the days news and the Green Un

 

[snootyfenooty]

BTW I heard that as a cost-saving measure, the Star is planning to move from its traditional High St home to cheaper premises outside the city centre. I think that would be a real shame.

I think you need to dig a bit deeper than that. I reckon that the Star will eventually become a Sheffield edition of the Yorkshire Post printed in L***s. If you think the condescending crap directed towards us is bad now, just wait a few years.

 

[northsomersetblade]

Yes. They beamed me up after the game. Woke up in bed this morning like I had eaten a tindaloo. At least that's what LYDON told me happened.....

Was it one of these? They are always going over nowadays

 

[stringer]

BTW I heard that as a cost-saving measure, the Star is planning to move from its traditional High St home to cheaper premises outside the city centre. I think that would be a real shame. To be part of the community, journos need to mingle with local people, eat and drink in the city centre pubs and cafes. Member of the public should be able to walk in to the Star offices off the street and Star employees should be able to nip out to meet people.

Or converse with them on a forum. Unfortunately, some just choose to take the chance to wish them redundancy rather than anything constructive