Incoming? Dean Henderson for a 3rd season

[S40BLADE]

I really hope we have let go any chance of getting him again and are putting aside a healthy budget to sign a keeper that we can call our own. The reported bids for Cakir fill me with enthusiasm. Hendo will be remembered as a great and rightfully so but I think its best for all involved if we move on. ⚔

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Stick Moore between't sticks and have done wi' it. Save a bob or two an all.

 

[Liaminho9]

Stick Moore between't sticks and have done wi' it. Save a bob or two an all.

Yeh we wouldn’t need to worry about signing Premier League players in 12 months for a start.

 

[jt64]

If he ends up signing a contract worth £150k+ a week, how much is that going to end up costing us? Do we really want to be spending say £7m+ on a loan player, with zero chance of signing him at the end of it?

Let's say we spent 6 million on a keeper and paid 30k a week on a three year deal. That's half what Henderson would cost, but do you get a good enough keeper that the savings are worth it when you factor in that if you drop two places in the league you lose everything you've saved?

That he's not ours is again only part of the story, it's only relevant if we sell him on whilst under contract

 

[Bladesman]

I say we kidnap Henderson and if Man Utd want him back they can pay us £30million for him.

 

[tincan]

Let's say we spent 6 million on a keeper and paid 30k a week on a three year deal. That's half what Henderson would cost, but do you get a good enough keeper that the savings are worth it when you factor in that if you drop two places in the league you lose everything you've saved?

That he's not ours is again only part of the story, it's only relevant if we sell him on whilst under contract

That brings us to the likes of Karius, worthwhile if CWAK can return him to the form prior to the CL final and one who may fit the resurrection their mould. That route would add a few million more to the striker upgrades, a gamble of course given the points is Hendo worth a season..

 

[Grizzly blade]

Let's say we spent 6 million on a keeper and paid 30k a week on a three year deal. That's half what Henderson would cost, but do you get a good enough keeper that the savings are worth it when you factor in that if you drop two places in the league you lose everything you've saved?

That he's not ours is again only part of the story, it's only relevant if we sell him on whilst under contract

The difference being we own that keeper and it’s a saleable asset.
Hendo on loan at a cost double that of our own keeper that is of premier league standard is crazy.
There’s no way of measuring how another keeper would fare compared to Hendo. We can only speculate that he would be worse and cost us points, however we could also speculate that he could gain us points too!
All keepers make errors, the same as all players. It’s the number and regularity that defines the best from the rest.

At the moment Hendo has done well, but could easily have a bad season in the same way De Gea has. Though De Gea arguably won them a point at ours with several good saves before they came back. Hendo could have a bad season and that’s the pot blown.

so my point in all of this is simple, we are at a point where the cost of bringing in Hendo is becoming more expensive for one season as it is us getting a good keeper of our own for 3 seasons Or more who we can still sell on at the end of it should we choose to.
We won’t see Hendo in a blades shirt again unless Hendo decides To refuse a New contract offer and Buy out his own deal to sign a much reduced offer with us. And that’s about as likely as me going in goal for the blades next season.

 

[YES Blade]

Let's say we spent 6 million on a keeper and paid 30k a week on a three year deal. That's half what Henderson would cost, but do you get a good enough keeper that the savings are worth it when you factor in that if you drop two places in the league you lose everything you've saved?

That he's not ours is again only part of the story, it's only relevant if we sell him on whilst under contract

A £6m keeper is probably not going to be good enough, we should be looking to spend closer to £20m. Hopefully the rumoured bid of £15m for Cakir is true and we've budgeted for spending a big fee on a keeper.

 

[jt64]

A £6m keeper is probably not going to be good enough, we should be looking to spend closer to £20m.

Exactly my point - to get a keeper as good as Henderson permanently you're going to need to spend a heck of a lot more than 7m/season

 

[YES Blade]

Exactly my point - to get a keeper as good as Henderson permanently you're going to need to spend a heck of a lot more than 7m/season

It will come a point where Man U either want him as no. 1 or are going to sell him. What do we do then? Find another loan Keeper?

It's reached that point already for me, get a permanent Keeper signed now rather than be strung along until the last minute by Man U like last summer. Yes, the cost will be more this summer, but eventually we're going to have to sign a permanent Keeper and it's likely to work out cheaper in the long run.

 

[Mojo]

Henderson is a project imho. Still has a big mistake in him at times and didn’t have the best of post lockdown season. Leicester, chelski et al will want a bang proven keeper.
Hendo is a blades, Leeds, villa type player unless a big club want him as cover.

Doubt he would go to Leeds after what their fans were chanting at him.

 

[Blade56]

Doubt he would go to Leeds after what their fans were chanting at him.

Forgot about that

 

[Hamburg Blade]

There’s no way of measuring how another keeper would fare compared to Hendo. We can only speculate that he would be worse and cost us points, however we could also speculate that he could gain us points too!
All keepers make errors, the same as all players. It’s the number and regularity that defines the best from the rest.

And if we don't shell out a fortune for a keeper, every mistake that keeper makes will be accompanied by comments of, "Hendo wouldn't have made that mistake", "He's cost us x points compared to Hendo", "We should have stumped up the cash and bought Hendo" etc etc.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

And if we don't shell out a fortune for a keeper, every mistake that keeper makes will be accompanied by comments of, "Hendo wouldn't have made that mistake", "He's cost us x points compared to Hendo", "We should have stumped up the cash and bought Hendo" etc etc.

Buy Hendo for £25 Million and include a buy back each summer for whatever the world record fee is for a keeper? Currently about £70 Million.
We just have to try and find a way to fit him into our wage structure IF he wants to join. If not he needs to look elsewhere.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

If OGS doesn’t think Hendo is ready now, he never will.

I’d be really surprised if Man U were seriously considering Schmeichel when the best young keeper in the world is on their books

This is in no way and understatement, he really is.

I think it's the biggest bit of hope we've had that he could come back.

He's superb and aye, I'd agree he may be the best young keeper around. That doesn't necessarily mean he's ready to be Man U number 1 though, having his every move and mistake analysed and all over the papers. It could wreck him. Put together a highlights package of him for us this season he looks incredible. Put a highlights package together of any mistakes and over analyse it to death (as they would) and he doesn't.

I can't see any chance whatsoever they sell him. But if they give him another season to get confident, iron out anything in his game that needs looking at (near post) and maybe become England keeper, it suits them and us.

I agree with this, and have been meaning to say this - about the pressure bubble of Old Trafford. Look at the flack Maguire has come in for, for example. They're tears generally, their fans, who expect too much and don't have enough patience.

Henderson is already better than Schmeichel who is a decent, albeit overrated keeper.

No he really isn't, Schmeichel has been consistently one of the best keepers in the division for several years.

Dean Henderson is heading to a stage in his life where he has to choose between his Wife (Man Utd) and his mistress (Blades).

He loves his wife dearly and wants his marriage to work so badly. But his mistress is fun, she let's him play all the time and is generally a lot more fun. But Dean knows if he walks out on his wife, he's leaving behind a secure marriage and financial stability.

Do what's right Dean. If your wife loves you that badly, she'll take you back in 2 or 3 years when everything settles down. Take the fun now whilst it's on offer.

Absolutely brilliant. There's a third option, those rich, posh flirty numbers who also keep eyeing him up (Chelsea).

But I agree with the sentiment. Come here, further your career by getting regular game time and leave a few years down the line when the Top 4 come knocking, that is, if Wilder hasn't made us Top 4 and Champions of England by then...

 

[SouthportBlade]

I'd take Hendo back for a 3rd season, and gladly so - the best option we can possibly have for next season. No other keeper would come close in terms of the mix between ability, being part of the defensive unit and also part of the squad.

However, true or false, with numbers North of £50m been bandied around for him I fear there's literally 0% chance of us signing him.

There also comes a time when we are spending a lot of money on wages, without any long term benefit. It's like we are renting a mega expensive city centre bachelor pad when we could buy a lovely 4 bed detached in the suburbs!!!

I find the KS link a bit of an odd one, as if you are displacing DDG as number one, it seems bizarre to go elsewhere for that when you've a ready made replacement
?

However if I'm Hendo I'd want to have a more certain future, and would want to be an established no. 1 and not on Loan hoping for DDG to have another nightmare season

 

[SHOREHAMST.com]

Dean Henderson will spend his entire career on loan with us.

 

[Grizzly blade]

And if we don't shell out a fortune for a keeper, every mistake that keeper makes will be accompanied by comments of, "Hendo wouldn't have made that mistake", "He's cost us x points compared to Hendo", "We should have stumped up the cash and bought Hendo" etc etc.

Hendo has come in for pelters for mistakes this season.
We should have bought Hendo instead of the very first loan. That was THE time to take the gamble for us. That was the moment similar to Vardy being bought from non league...the risk of paying big money (for us) back then, on a lad who hadn’t played at Champ level before. Would have cost a few million but would obviously have a much greater value asset now.
Woild we have managed to get him to re-sign now? Probably not in truth and we would have seen him leave for a £30-40m profit. But to sign him now simply isn’t an option.

We can’t afford him, simple as that.
So we have to look elsewhere, and if the fuckwits decide to string a keeper up just because he’s not Hendo then whoever it is will have to deal with it. Wilder and co know what they need, and we should have more faith that they will be able to get it right and so be patient with whoever we get in.

 

[Silent Blade]

Dean Henderson will spend his entire career on loan with us.

Testimonial in 8 years time!

 

[WhoDatBlade]

 

[Heffernans tache]

I guess that's why we are trying to do a deal for Ramsdale.

 

[Seth Rollins]

At war with us?? Really?? More like Henderson wants to come back to us & is kicking up a stink cos we’ve been linked with Ramsdale & Cakir.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Interesting use of the word ' war '

 

[Bruce Wayne]

At war with us?? Really?? More like Henderson wants to come back to us & is kicking up a stink cos we’ve been linked with Ramsdale & Cakir.

If he loves us that much he should just sign for us on £40k p/w

 

[Seth Rollins]

If he loves us that much he should just sign for us on £40k p/w

Maybe thats just what he wants to do & Man Utd wont play ball.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Maybe thats just what he wants to do & Man Utd wont play ball.

I doubt it, I also doubt they want to pay him £100k p/w when he's said no.1 or i'm off.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

If that’s right it’s not a war we can win he’s their player not ours

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If that’s right it’s not a war we can win he’s their player not ours

Depends on the player

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

If that’s right it’s not a war we can win he’s their player not ours

Of course we can win, we walk away from a hugely over priced deal which gives us little value. I don’t think clubs “go to war” over this kind of thing though, and I’m sure we have a pretty good relationship with Man Utd.
Doesn’t mean they’ll give us what we want, but we don’t have to give them what they want either and we’re clearly looking to tie this up earlier than last year so we’re not in such a weak position.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Yes, he's MU's player so they have the last word. Henderson's wishes, in this instance, may not be the priority that he'd like them to be.

If we were a club with a rated player, someone that we had plans for, then as much as I'm sure the club would accommodate his wishes if at all possible, there's the rub, any decisions would have to be based on what's best for the club.