Incoming? Dean Henderson for a 3rd season

[Smirth]

Henderson is already better than Schmeichel who is a decent, albeit overrated keeper.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Henderson is already better than Schmeichel who is a decent, albeit overrated keeper.

No he really isn’t better than Schmeichel!

 

[tincan]

If he do comes for a third season, every time DeGea has a rick, there will be a media shitshow that he should be immediately recalled, destabilising both Hendo and ourselves.
It's better to get one of the Turkish lads in, stop being a puppet to Manure and be done with it.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

If that’s the case, I can see them selling Hendo to Chelsea for £50m+

Chelsea have been linked with pretty much every decent keeper in the last couple of weeks.
I don’t believe they’ll be in for Hendo, they know who they want and are seemingly showing they’ll look elsewhere if he doesn’t hurry up and sign.
Hendo is still a couple of years away from being a realistic top 4 keeper and being able to hold it down. Him signing a new deal and coming back to us for those 2 years is the best thing for all parties. But we shouldn’t be looking to pay over the odds to help them develop him for Man Utd, it also needs to be on our terms too. If not, we should move on while other keepers are available who we will own and we’ll get the benefit from developing. It’s not the same landscape as last pre-season.

 

[Harry's Game]

Looks like Hendo’s slight wobble in form after lockdown may cost him the Man U number one slot. If they sign K.S then Hendo will leave to be permanent No 1 somewhere else, maybe even as makeweight in the K.S deal with Leicester or more likely to Chelsea.

Whatever scenario He will be well out of our price range.

 

[8lade]

He's superb and aye, I'd agree he may be the best young keeper around. That doesn't necessarily mean he's ready to be Man U number 1 though, having his every move and mistake analysed and all over the papers. It could wreck him.

On the basis of the above (which I agree with) let's try and get Mason Greenwood too.

 

[CW7]

On the basis of the above (which I agree with) let's try and get Mason Greenwood too.

To be fair, keeper is a completely different position to forward. With 5 subs it will be rare for wide forwards to play 90 minutes. Goalkeepers don't share minutes.

 

[mattbianco1]

Nunber of pieces online today saying Man U are looking at signing Kasper Schmeichel as a ready made replacement for De Gea as Solskjaer doesn't believe Hendo is ready to start yet.

Dean Henderson is heading to a stage in his life where he has to choose between his Wife (Man Utd) and his mistress (Blades).

He loves his wife dearly and wants his marriage to work so badly. But his mistress is fun, she let's him play all the time and is generally a lot more fun. But Dean knows if he walks out on his wife, he's leaving behind a secure marriage and financial stability.

Do what's right Dean. If your wife loves you that badly, she'll take you back in 2 or 3 years when everything settles down. Take the fun now whilst it's on offer.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Looks like Hendo’s slight wobble in form after lockdown may cost him the Man U number one slot. If they sign K.S then Hendo will leave to be permanent No 1 somewhere else, maybe even as makeweight in the K.S deal with Leicester or more likely to Chelsea.

Whatever scenario He will be well out of our price range.

Not sure he will leave Salford Reds, I think the most likely deal is a new contract and another season ot two on loan with us, but I've been saying that for a while.
If they do want to sell, then I again I think we could be in the running as he'd likely have a significant buy back clause which I'm sure we'd be agreeable to.
I think many on here over value him, and would think a deal being done around the £20-25 million mark with something like a clause that they can buy him back for a world record keeper fee in any summer window for the next 3-4 seasons.
The issue would clearly be wages, however given he's been here for the past 2 seasons, I don't believe the impact would be the same bringing him on a higher wage bracket as someone completely new so long as deals were offered for the likes of JoC, and Egan at a similar level at some point this season. He also needs to accept, if he's leaving Manchester United for Sheffield United the money isn't going to be at quite the same level.
In short, he's tried to play his hand while it was strong and you can't blame the lad for that, but this is Man Utd he's trying to push and I think he going to be forced to decide if he's going to shit, or get off the pot.

 

[HeySethUTB]

On sky sports now saying, if Man Utd go and get Kasper Schmeichel, Henderson will stay at Sheffield Utd “no doubt”. It’s statements like this In the media that gives you the hope that eventually kills you. No source, just edge your bets.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

On sky sports now saying, if Man Utd go and get Kasper Schmeichel, Henderson will stay at Sheffield Utd “no doubt”. It’s statements like this In the media that gives you the hope that eventually kills you. No source, just edge your bets.

Its the arrogance of the media that we will simply bow down and grant what Manchester United wish of us simply because they are Manchester United.
We have a say in this deal, and I'm sure SB will make them aware of that. If it's a loan we should push for it being 2 years to give us some stability.

 

[YES Blade]

On sky sports now saying, if Man Utd go and get Kasper Schmeichel, Henderson will stay at Sheffield Utd “no doubt”. It’s statements like this In the media that gives you the hope that eventually kills you. No source, just edge your bets.

If he ends up signing a contract worth £150k+ a week, how much is that going to end up costing us? Do we really want to be spending say £7m+ on a loan player, with zero chance of signing him at the end of it?

 

[mattbianco1]

If Man Utd sign Schmeichel, Henderson will surely go the other way

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

If he ends up signing a contract worth £150k+ a week, how much is that going to end up costing us? Do we really want to be spending say £7m+ on a loan player, with zero chance of signing him at the end of it?

Why do we have to pay for all of it?
I don't buy the Chelsea story at all, and think Hendo and his agent may have used it to try a force Man Utd hand, but the new contract is for Man Utd's security not ours. We should refuse to cover that level of wages and stick within our structure. If they then want to take him elsewhere, that's their decision and we move on.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

If Man Utd sign Schmeichel, Henderson will surely go the other way

Not a bad call, but wouldn't Leicester be looking to improve in that position and for the sake of argument go get the Turkish lad we've been linked with, rather than someone who's a couple of years away for a top 4 keeper?

 

[YES Blade]

Why do we have to pay for all of it?
I don't buy the Chelsea story at all, and think Hendo and his agent may have used it to try a force Man Utd hand, but the new contract is for Man Utd's security not ours. We should refuse to cover that level of wages and stick within our structure. If they then want to take him elsewhere, that's their decision and we move on.

It's likely other clubs will be intersted in Henderson on loan, so if we don't meet Man U's demands, I can see him going elsewhere. He's now a proven Premier League goalkeeper and Man U know he'll be in demand.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

It's likely other clubs will be intersted in Henderson on loan, so if we don't meet Man U's demands, I can see him going elsewhere. He's now a proven Premier League goalkeeper and Man U know he'll be in demand.

GLTTL

 

[LoughboroBlade]

We’re in a frustrating place again with this. We clearly want him to stay another season, he seems to want to too if Man U aren’t willing to start him, and much like last summer (and same re: the extension past June for the restart) it could take till the 11th hour till it’s confirmed.

Meanwhile alternative targets may be picked up. Our willingness to wait is no doubt dependent on on the ongoing contact between us and Man U on the situation.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We’re in a frustrating place again with this. We clearly want him to stay another season, he seems to want to too if Man U aren’t willing to start him, and much like last summer (and same re: the extension past June for the restart) it could take till the 11th hour till it’s confirmed.

Meanwhile alternative targets may be picked up. Our willingness to wait is no doubt dependent on on the ongoing contact between us and Man U on the situation.

We absolutely shouldn't be waiting for this to be done, they need to tell us where we are and soon. There's nothing stopping them holding contract talks after he's agreed to come back on loan if that's what they wish to do.

 

[Johnnyblade]

I think one of the main reasons Hendo won’t be number 1 for Man Utd this year is because they have qualified for the Champions league.
De Gea has over 60 games of European experience and 40 games Internationally and is preferred to an improving youngster with no experience of Europe and only one season in the Premiership

 

[LoughboroBlade]

We absolutely shouldn't be waiting for this to be done, they need to tell us where we are and soon. There's nothing stopping them holding contract talks after he's agreed to come back on loan if that's what they wish to do.

Given we’ll be paying a % of his wages, there is little to be gained from Man U’s perspective by negotiating that contract and potentially raising his wage after we sign a loan agreement. This is the reality – we have no bargaining position really, and if we don’t take him he’ll have a load of alternative options. If we want to pursue getting him again, we can’t do anything else but wait. But if we aren’t prepared to do that, we should go for an alternative.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Given we’ll be paying a % of his wages, there is little to be gained from Man U’s perspective by negotiating that contract and potentially raising his wage after we sign a loan agreement. This is the reality – we have no bargaining position really, and if we don’t taken him he’ll have a load of alternative options. If we want to pursue getting him again, we can’t do anything else but wait. But if we aren’t prepared to do that, we should go for an alternative.

Or we agree a flat fee for his wages and stop being so accommodating to them. This is really important for us, and we can't just hang on for them to jack up the price because they want to keep him but don't want to play him.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Or we agree a flat fee for his wages and stop being so accommodating to them. This is really important for us, and we can't just hang on for them to jack up the price because they want to keep him but don't want to play him.

We might not be able to, but they are more than able to. There is no strong negotiating position for us here.

Won’t pay the wages? We’ll find another club for him then.
Won’t wait till we’re ready? We’ll find another club for him then.

They hold all the cards – he’s their player.

 

[8lade]

He loves his wife dearly and wants his marriage to work so badly. But his mistress is fun

Anyway (as everybody is discussing) the wife seems to be a company director bringing in big money whilst the mistress appears to be a checkout operator, he'll say what you want to hear to keep you happy but he's never going to leave.

 

[Blade56]

Surely if they sign Schmeichel, Henderson will want to leave? The thing then is you’ll probably get the likes of Chelsea sniffing around.

Sadly, I think it is likely that we’ll need to move on.

If Man Utd sign Schmeichel, Henderson will surely go the other way

Henderson is a project imho. Still has a big mistake in him at times and didn’t have the best of post lockdown season. Leicester, chelski et al will want a bang proven keeper.
Hendo is a blades, Leeds, villa type player unless a big club want him as cover.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We might not be able to, but they are more than able to. There is no strong negotiating position for us here.

Won’t pay the wages? We’ll find another club for him then.
Won’t wait till we’re ready? We’ll find another club for him then.

They hold all the cards – he’s their player.

We should draw a line in the sand that if it's not concluded by a certain date we move on.
If they're perfectly happy to send him elsewhere then so be it, but we shouldn't be a lapdog begging for scraps from the Manchester United table.
We're perfectly capable of finding an alternate keeper who we actually own and have an interest in developing ourselves.
I fully get the benefits of getting Hendo back, but we shouldn't be afraid to move on instead of hanging on until a few days before the start of the season.

 

[brownblade]

Very mixed opinions in here, understandably.

I think most clubs in the world would want Hendo in goal. Considering that very few teams have a great keeper. Deano's already in the top 25 keepers in the world.

It's difficult to factor everything into this - fee/wages and our long term need. Personally i think we could finish 2 or 3 places higher (4-6mill prize money) in the league 2020/21 with Dean (he's settled as a Blade already). Any other keeper is technically a gamble for us.

Having said that we're obviously going to be looking at other options, rightfully so, and another option may become the best option - either through necessity, or via risk assessment

 

[HeySethUTB]

Not sure if the Kasper transfer rumours are true, if I was Henderson I would be unsure what to do next, he’s proven himself at league 1, championship and premier league level that he can do the business. He averages under 1 goal a game in the 127 appearances he has made and still seems not to get a look in. With David de Gea contract not up for another three years and the Kasper rumours circulating might be best he cuts his ties so not to be the next Ben Foster (excellent keeper limited silverware). Wilder says it best, no room for sentiment i feel like Man Utd are messing the lad about, knowing he has so much potential, problem is Man Utd clearly have enough money to sit on him with the foresight of his continual value increasing.

 

[Mouth of the South]

We might not be able to, but they are more than able to. There is no strong negotiating position for us here.

Won’t pay the wages? We’ll find another club for him then.
Won’t wait till we’re ready? We’ll find another club for him then.

They hold all the cards – he’s their player.

Agree LB - not a great position for Utd to be in.

CW has obviously learned from what happened last season and sensibly appears to be progressing several alternatives to Henderson.

I'm sure he remains first choice but with several factors seeming to make his return less likely, CW must ensure the gap is addressed well in advance of the start of the season. I daren't think what would have happened last season if Henderson hasn't returned and CW would have had to go with Moore as first choice, even if it was until a better alternative was recruited.

It really is a matter of wait and see for Utd. They may well indeed decide to set a cut-off date (internal and/or external) for a decision on Henderson after which time they'll discount him and firm-up another option but IMHO all others that have been mentioned (especially Ramsdale) I would be a downgrade, although I must admit I've seen very little of either of the Turkish lads.

 

[Keen Blade]

I can see Wes F playing in September coz we'll have waited till the 11th hour for any chance of Hendo.
Once the season starts we'll then have 3 weeks in which to get a no1 goalie + let either Moore or Verrips go.