DCL and Che

[Bladesway]

Am I the only one wondering what we must be doing wrong if Everton are to get DCL for 1.5m and Che goes to Brum (and starts) for in excess of £2m. These players can't get in our first team that is near the bottom of the third division.

Either we are pulling the biggest and most cunning stunt since the beginning of time or our best players aren't actually playing every week?

 

[s35blade]

Think 1.4 million for DCL is fantastic myself.

 

[Harry's Game]

Think 1.4 million for DCL is fantastic myself.

Depends where it goes.

 

[Benny and the Blades]

They've run out of best players to sell so now their selling the future best players.....

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

We far prefer to buy wage thieving cunts at the end of their careers hoping they`ll fire us to promotion in 5 minutes than build a team around young talent that might take 2 seasons to fire us up.
Obviously it`s serving us well with the "Get the fucking up or your sacked" board requirement.
Six years and counting with that winning formula.

 

[Tyler Durden]

It's an easy explanation. In Adams' case he thought Sheffield United was beneath him from the outset, hence his shit attitude and refusal to train properly. That's why he showed only brief flashes of quality. But showed just enough to get noticed.

But that's all I have to say about him. Players mean nothing to me unless they are our employees and we no longer employ him.
Nothing makes me cringe more than reading "good luck to the lad" posts whenever somebody leaves.

 

[Oreyt]

Think 1.4 million for DCL is fantastic myself.

It is if you take it at face value. But I'd love to see what he's cost us in wages (not a lot, I know) plus whatever proportion of the Academies resources were put into developing him (a decent wedge I imagine) over the last 10 or whatever years.

Anybody know what the total cost of running per year, the Academy is?

The Che Adams model of nicking off non league then flogging on two years later seems better to me (if we're in the flogging business which we seem to be).

 

[Sheffsteel]

It's quite simple really.

If a club has loads of money then they can afford to hoover up all the most talented youngsters with potential.

THEY CAN EASILY AFFORD TO TAKE THE RISK in the hope that they find another Kyle Walker type of player.

Now the problem with youngsters that have potential is that not many make it in the game.
MOST youngsters will prove to be failures but the rich clubs don't care, no big loss.
Historically players like DCL and Adams wouldn't command a big transfer fee because both have achieved nothing.

Also like Jordan Slew both Adams and DCL could be causing damage to their careers going to bigger clubs but I suppose neither are that bothered as they'll both now be loaded. Pleased for them.

 

[sitwell]

Big gamble for us to keep them as they aren't proven ,not so for the money merchants ,1.4 mill is loose change ,so it will hardly get noticed by L44el and their doom-mongers

BTW ,Both are more Jordan Slew than Kyle Walker for me.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

It is if you take it at face value. But I'd love to see what he's cost us in wages (not a lot, I know) plus whatever proportion of the Academies resources were put into developing him (a decent wedge I imagine) over the last 10 or whatever years.

Anybody know what the total cost of running per year, the Academy is?

The Che Adams model of nicking off non league then flogging on two years later seems better to me (if we're in the flogging business which we seem to be).

We seem to be in the flogging business????
I absolutely challenge you to provide factual,historical examples to substantiate that most scurrilous claim!!!!!!!

 

[Lawrence]

Think 1.4 million for DCL is fantastic myself.

Yes a great fee? Could be 5mil won't make any difference

 

[BushBlade]

Am I the only one wondering what we must be doing wrong if Everton are to get DCL for 1.5m and Che goes to Brum (and starts) for in excess of £2m. These players can't get in our first team that is near the bottom of the third division.

Either we are pulling the biggest and most cunning stunt since the beginning of time or our best players aren't actually playing every week?

Everton literally have more money than they can spend. So they take a punt.

Brum cashed in on Gray last season so are taking a gamble. They're not under real pressure to get promotion so they can afford to and they can't really compete with the big boys and sign McCormack or Gayle. Che is a bigger gamble for them than DCL is for Everton.

The market has gone insane though.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Everton literally have more money than they can spend. So they take a punt.

Brum cashed in on Gray last season so are taking a gamble. They're not under real pressure to get promotion so they can afford to and they can't really compete with the big boys and sign McCormack or Gayle. Che is a bigger gamble for them than DCL is for Everton.

The market has gone insane though.

We should have hung onto Higgopotamus a bit longer.

In today's market he could easily have fetched £40 or even £50.

 

[Chali 2na]

Think 1.4 million for DCL is fantastic myself.

£1.4m is a lot of money to me and the man on the street, but in football terms in 2016, it's very little.

DCL isn't worth that based on his current ability, obviously, but his potential value could far exceed that.

Milwall are apparently asking for £1m for Byron Webster, which if that's true or near true then it puts the DCL deal into perspective.

 

[Benny and the Blades]

I don't understand it we get most of our players for free and look how good they are, and if we do spend a bungle on one we just loan him out...

Funny old game innit.....

 

[Jonboy60]

It's quite simple really.

If a club has loads of money then they can afford to hoover up all the most talented youngsters with potential.

THEY CAN EASILY AFFORD TO TAKE THE RISK in the hope that they find another Kyle Walker type of player.

Now the problem with youngsters that have potential is that not many make it in the game.
MOST youngsters will prove to be failures but the rich clubs don't care, no big loss.
Historically players like DCL and Adams wouldn't command a big transfer fee because both have achieved nothing.

Also like Jordan Slew both Adams and DCL could be causing damage to their careers going to bigger clubs but I suppose neither are that bothered as they'll both now be loaded. Pleased for them.

Just like Chelsea do, then loan them out( over 20 at the moment I believe). Win win for Chelsea and others doing the same.

 

[blade too long]

sky says its 1.5 m
http://www.skysports.com/transfer/n...n-dominic-calvert-lewin-from-sheffield-united

 

[Jonboy60]

The ones for dcl is ok, as long as we have a sell on clause. If he becomes any good, Everton are a selling club as well. It's all relative. Imo.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We should have hung onto Higgopotamus a bit longer.

In today's market he could easily have fetched £40 or even £50.

Per pound? If so we could have got David Luis.

 

[Bladesway]

Everton literally have more money than they can spend. So they take a punt.

Brum cashed in on Gray last season so are taking a gamble. They're not under real pressure to get promotion so they can afford to and they can't really compete with the big boys and sign McCormack or Gayle. Che is a bigger gamble for them than DCL is for Everton.

The market has gone insane though.

I'm not arguing whether the deal is good or bad and I'm not having a pop at the club. What interests me is that we have 2 players that if we are being kind, divide opinion. Yet Brum paid for Che, he has played and scored. DCL I cannot for the life of me understand the logic of the money involved also, there is no continuity because based on ability shown Che has proven a lot more than DCL. His brace against Spurs and his goals last season show he has something.

Neither of these players are in our first team, a team that is struggling in its own division. So you can argue they are both shit based on that. Because there is little doubt we are shit.

Or there is another option. No one at our club had a clue with the first team and these players have been offloaded when they could have been a part of a better promotion team.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm not arguing whether the deal is good or bad and I'm not having a pop at the club. What interests me is that we have 2 players that if we are being kind, divide opinion. Yet Brum paid for Che, he has played and scored. DCL I cannot for the life of me understand the logic of the money involved also, there is no continuity because based on ability shown Che has proven a lot more than DCL. His brace against Spurs and his goals last season show he has something.

Neither of these players are in our first team, a team that is struggling in its own division. So you can argue they are both shit based on that. Because there is little doubt we are shit.

Or there is another option. No one at our club had a clue with the first team and these players have been offloaded when they could have been a part of a better promotion team.

Doesn't that last paragraph knock the club a little bit?

 

[Bladesway]

Doesn't that last paragraph knock the club a little bit?

I'm not saying it's a fact. I'm trying to state options that may be the reason. I'm openly admitting I cannot understand it.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm not saying it's a fact. I'm trying to state options that may be the reason. I'm openly admitting I cannot understand it.

Most of it is hard to understand. I agree about the fee forDCL. It's madness and is the reason the Che fee has come under attack again. Someone paying that for DCL does not mean we undersold Adams.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

I'm not saying it's a fact. I'm trying to state options that may be the reason. I'm openly admitting I cannot understand it.

I think you`re absolutely right.
Our policy has been to sell any young player with potential and replace them with wage thieving geriatric cunts.
Keep it simple.

 

[raul]

I read it as directed at the previous Management regime if anything.

Unless of course there's a school of thought which believes most players performed better under Posnig than Negnig and Che was an outlier?

 

[Tezza1889]

I'm not arguing whether the deal is good or bad and I'm not having a pop at the club. What interests me is that we have 2 players that if we are being kind, divide opinion. Yet Brum paid for Che, he has played and scored. DCL I cannot for the life of me understand the logic of the money involved also, there is no continuity because based on ability shown Che has proven a lot more than DCL. His brace against Spurs and his goals last season show he has something.

Neither of these players are in our first team, a team that is struggling in its own division. So you can argue they are both shit based on that. Because there is little doubt we are shit.

Or there is another option. No one at our club had a clue with the first team and these players have been offloaded when they could have been a part of a better promotion team.

Here's a thought, wilder was told that these deals were In the pipeline and that he shouldn't plan for these guys being part of the squad in the very near future..

This being too shit to make our first team, we I for one disagree..

 

[More Bladier than thou]

Great bit of business by blades. Shame we are shit are buying good players and a shame we wont see that money ever again.

 

[Idontlikewednesdays]

Sad and crazy thing is the majority of people on forums say they are not good enough for us and we should sell.
Che, no end product, no temperament, no sign of improvement etc etc
He's a kid with raw talent and scores goals
DCL, don't rate him, too tall, don't score enough, etc etc
You've not seen him play, he hasn't bloody played

We then sell to footballing clubs and hope they are more Slew than Jagielka.

What worries me is I've seen glimmers in these 2 and also in Wallace and McNulty yet what do I know as they've both gone to.

Rumours of Reed going aswell, from having a ridiculously large squad to bare bones in 12 months. At least Brooks and Semple will be on the bench.

In all my years of supporting United this is the most toughest of times, the next 3 hours will be beyond crucial

 

[Pollingtonblade]

We can run round with the balance sheet at the end of the season!

 

[Bladeloyal]

Just had a call ,saying we can now log off business done