David Brooks Windfall £,£££,£££

[BushBlade]

Indeed - a point missed by many and spoken openly as the reason Eddie Howe could even consider making an offer.

UTB

Yes, he said that in the same interview that he said he hadn’t really expected him to make much impact at first and saw him as one for the future.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

I’m glad he didn’t leave Bournemouth in January as he’d have gone for as low as £40m. He could genuinely be worth £60m+ by the summer, particularly if Europe’s top clubs start sniffing around.

If Maddison can go for £22m, I don’t understand how anyone can think £11.5m was good value for selling Brooks. He had glandular fever and even then looked quality. Either way it is done and it’s allowed the owners a bit of freedom to squabble with each other without having to worry about funding loan deals so every cloud and all that.

Cause Maddison score nearly 20 goals for Norwich , Bournemouth is probably the best possible club brooks could have gone to for us as they’ll probably sell him and for his development

 

[BladeInIreland]

Wilder is very good at identifying the right player to fit his system that he wants to play. Brooks didn’t really fit into that system at the time. Maybe the Bournemouth system fits him better, maybe he has just improved. No one can say for sure.

Not just players who fit the system, but players within our tight budget. Does a great job under difficult conditions.

Without his illness Brooks would have made a much bigger impact. We always looked better with him on IMO.

 

[BladeInIreland]

May as well just spend spend spend then, easy when it's not yours.

Costs more if we get relegated , again.

And yes it is easy, I also don’t get the millions if we go up either.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Yes, he said that in the same interview that he said he hadn’t really expected him to make much impact at first and saw him as one for the future.

.....and it's similar to how CW stopped him going to Chezzer once he'd been to the Toulon tournament - just perhaps he IS the real deal, and some of our fans just can't accept not seeing the talent in the early days.

UTB

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

People spend a lot of money going to see football and it’s other expenses. Tickets, travel, merch , over priced pints/food. For those without much that’s a huge commitment.

People spend a lot of money going to see football and it’s other expenses. Tickets, travel, merch , over priced pints/food. For those without much that’s a huge commitment.

I don’t think that you can compare percentage of their worth and what they’ve put in to the club. £100 is a lot to me but I know that I could easily do a bit of extra work and earn that back. £1m to McCabe might be the same % wise but he has to do a lot to earn that again and why should he?
He keeps our club alive. He does his best and he has the best interests of the club at heart. All in all he is better than 99% of club owners

 

[Tom Bott]

Although you seem more in the camp that you'd like to see us spending money that we haven't got.

It's the same in politics people demand that government spend more on every thing but without raising taxes to do so,
life is easy when demanding other people spend their money.

Running a business is also easy to some, just ignore wages and overheads and spend on luxury ticket items, it's a great recipe for fiscal disaster and why most people never run their own business.

 

[BladeInIreland]

I don’t think that you can compare percentage of their worth and what they’ve put in to the club. £100 is a lot to me but I know that I could easily do a bit of extra work and earn that back. £1m to McCabe might be the same % wise but he has to do a lot to earn that again and why should he?
He keeps our club alive. He does his best and he has the best interests of the club at heart. All in all he is better than 99% of club owners

I’m not saying it has to be a direct comparison although I could counter what you have said by using different figures. BUT it’s still a significant commitment to a lot of people.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

I’m not saying it has to be a direct comparison although I could counter what you have said by using different figures. BUT it’s still a significant commitment to a lot of people.

Appreciate that. There are just no guarantees in buying expensive footballers and McCabe doesn’t have that financial ability. We are lucky that Wilder is a top manager, loves the club and understands the situation

 

[Houston_Blade]

Costs more if we get relegated , again.

And yes it is easy, I also don’t get the millions if we go up either.

We're 3rd in the league, where is the current threat of relegation?

How much would you say that we need to spend and on which players would you suggest we spend it on to guarantee promotion?

 

[Houston_Blade]

I’m not saying it has to be a direct comparison although I could counter what you have said by using different figures. BUT it’s still a significant commitment to a lot of people.

They are at liberty not to spend the money, if I can't afford something I don't do it.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Appreciate that. There are just no guarantees in buying expensive footballers and McCabe doesn’t have that financial ability. We are lucky that Wilder is a top manager, loves the club and understands the situation

Don’t disagree. Hopeful sorted in the summer.

 

[Tom Bott]

Wilder is better than previous managers pulling rabbits out of hats, lets not kid ourselves that this can go on indefinitely.

We now have an £ 18 million pound strike force in our 2 new players why are people still suggesting we should spend even more.

They must be worth £ 18 million because others paid that in the last year or so, though an interesting concept for some could be that players values can go down as well as up.

2 of the top 3 strikers in this division cost nothing or peanuts, yet many say that you cannot have success without spending tens of millions.

Look past the £ sign.

 

[BladeInIreland]

We're 3rd in the league, where is the current threat of relegation?

How much would you say that we need to spend and on which players would you suggest we spend it on to guarantee promotion?

We didn’t need to spend more, just retain. We could spend more when we received more. We’re 3rd now, say Wilder leaves in the summer, takes fleck and O’Connell. Then what do you think the threat will be? We would not get a better manager or budget.

 

[Tom Bott]

merch , over priced pints/food

Simple don't buy it, in the same way that Dem Blades don't buy over priced players.

 

[BladeInIreland]

We now have an £ 18 million pound strike force in our 2 new players why are people still suggesting we should spend even more.

They must be worth £ 18 million because others paid that in the last year or so, though an interesting concept for some could be that players values can go down as well as up.

2 of the top 3 strikers in this division cost nothing or peanuts, yet many say that you cannot have success without spending tens of millions.

Look past the £ sign.

So you don’t think it more likely we could get better players with more money? Or shall I say more reliably good and not just a gamble? Give over.

 

[BladeInIreland]

They are at liberty not to spend the money, if I can't afford something I don't do it.

Simple don't buy it, in the same way that Dem Blades don't buy over priced players.

The club is too important for most people. I don’t stop supporting the blades just because I think the owners are useless when it comes to running a football club.

 

[Houston_Blade]

We didn’t need to spend more, just retain. We could spend more when we received more. We’re 3rd now, say Wilder leaves in the summer, takes fleck and O’Connell. Then what do you think the threat will be? We would not get a better manager or budget.

If Wilder leaves, If JOC and Fleck leave. Yours half empty at the moment then?

If Wilder leaves because we break promises that were made to him, then fair enough, we don't know what he was promised so I'd assume at the moment that he's not going to throw a strop and leave if he doesn't get 10's of millions to spend in the summer.

Apart from Brooks (offered more money, wanted to play in the PL, agent engineered a move away) who haven't we retained?

You seem desperate to have a dig but you haven't got that much of a foundation when we're 3rd in the league.

 

[Houston_Blade]

The club is too important for most people. I don’t stop supporting the blades just because I think the owners are useless when it comes to running a football club.

They shouldn't stop supporting, they should just not spend more than they can afford, there's a big difference. We all have a choice.

 

[SwissBlade]

Norwood was funded by Evans and Leonard. The Brooks money wasn’t touched.

We sold a player now being linked with the top teams to fund 3 January loans. I’d say that’s not the best business.

You're missing what i am saying. The Brooks money gave us a buffer to be able to plan for that and the next transfer window. We didn't receive all the money when he left, its paid in instalments (which we have also apparently taken a loan out against).

Had we not sold him we would have been in the market for lower value players and perhaps fewer of them. The Brooks money is factored into a higher budget

 

[BladeInIreland]

If Wilder leaves, If JOC and Fleck leave. Yours half empty at the moment then?

If Wilder leaves because we break promises that were made to him, then fair enough, we don't know what he was promised so I'd assume at the moment that he's not going to throw a strop and leave if he doesn't get 10's of millions to spend in the summer.

Apart from Brooks (offered more money, wanted to play in the PL, agent engineered a move away) who haven't we retained?

You seem desperate to have a dig but you haven't got that much of a foundation when we're 3rd in the league.

I have the foundation and more. Nothing has changed from our failures other than Wilder. We still have the same men in charge that have run us badly for years.

I’m not saying they will leave, but you have to be able to plan long term. These are realistic outcomes. Point being we’re still on that knife edge.

 

[BushBlade]

.....and it's similar to how CW stopped him going to Chezzer once he'd been to the Toulon tournament - just perhaps he IS the real deal, and some of our fans just can't accept not seeing the talent in the early days.

UTB

I don’t really understand your point. It doesn’t matter what our supporters thought, his price was set by the fact few people in the game who actually control the spending of money thought he was worth the gamble, even Howe wasn’t sure but was brave enough to take it. It’s paid off for him massively, which is why he grins like a Cheshire Cat with Botox every time he talks about him. Clubs like Everton and Spurs must be kicking themselves.

 

[Tom Bott]

I don’t stop supporting the blades just because I think the owners are useless

You also don't risk personal bankruptcy or loosing your house supporting the club. The difference is the word risk yet you expect others to take such risk.

 

[BladeInIreland]

You also don't risk personal bankruptcy or loosing your house supporting the club. The difference is the word risk yet you expect others to take such risk.

The risk with Brooks was minimal

 

[Tom Bott]

I don’t really understand your point. It doesn’t matter what our supporters thought, his price was set by the fact few people in the game who actually control the spending of money thought he was worth the gamble, even Howe wasn’t sure but was brave enough to take it. It’s paid off for him massively, which is why he grins like a Cheshire Cat with Botox every time he talks about him. Clubs like Everton and Spurs must be kicking themselves.

Why though would Bournemouth consider selling him, could it be that other clubs have to balance their books/team also ? Even with all the PL money.

Maybe the world of finance is more complex than some think.

 

[Tom Bott]

The risk with Brooks was minimal

So why did Man City not keep him then.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Why though would Bournemouth consider selling him, could it be that other clubs have to balance their books/team also ? Even with all the PL money.

Maybe the world of finance is more complex than some think.

It’s not about selling.

It’s about value


It’s about timing

It’s about reinvestment

Bournemouth were so good at this they made it to the Premier League.

My final point, I hope this gets sorted in the summer and we get Someone who wants to put there money on Wilder

 

[BladeInIreland]

So why did Man City not keep him then.

Are you really comparing what they saw of him and what we did?

 

[BushBlade]

Why though would Bournemouth consider selling him, could it be that other clubs have to balance their books/team also ? Even with all the PL money.

Maybe the world of finance is more complex than some think.

I haven’t said anything about Bournemouth selling him. I imagine they’ll want to keep him for as long as they can because they won’t find too many like him.

 

[Tom Bott]

It’s not about selling.

It’s about value


It’s about timing

It’s about reinvestment

Bournemouth were so good at this they made it to the Premier League.

Which is precisely what we are doing.