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vorpal blade said:
One of the biggest problems we have in South Yorkshire is an inferiority complex .... I think your above comment is symptomatic.
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That's, to put it crudely, bollocks. It has nothing to do with a inferiority complex and everything to do with the rather sensationalist comment of 'better than Currie' which based on his time at the lane where he wasn't a regular starter, is garbage.

In short, I disagree with your assertions but feel free to provide evidence of the contrary.
 

Eric Cartman said:
I'd disagree with that, he showed glimpses of brilliance nearly every game he played.

He was the perfect second striker for us, playing as the go between of Leon and Duffy. Delight to watch. If it wasn't for glandular fever getting him he'd have become our key man.
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He also showed a complete lack of composure and awareness at times. Its youth and inexperience.

I do agree with your comment about glandular fever, which is a far more balanced take on the situation. That certainly affected his development whilst here.
 
vorpal blade said:
come off it Swiss, what we need in the side right now is ....... a bit of imagination and tons of speed/finishing/passing skill ........Brooks.



Selling Brooks once to a small-time club and then once to a big club over the course of a couple of years gives the agent a percentage of 2 transfer deals ..... that is the only reason he went to Bournemouth. I would be surprised if the agent didn't already give a bigger club an option for him in 2019/20 - subject to an even bigger club coming in.

Brooks was very obviously the best player we've had a Sheffield United in my lifetime ...... I would include Currie in that.

That said, he was obviously disloyal inasmuch as he flitted between English and Welsh nationality with no compunction.
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Yeah what we need now we've had a bad run of 4-5 games is a young player we sold.... the blades way. Duffy has been largely brilliant in that free role this season.

Last season, Brooks had some excellent games, he had some very average (or poor) games too and he missed a large part of the season through illness, so i wouldn't put him in the top 10 Blades players.

Selling Brooks has allowed the club room to manoeuvre financially and for the above reasons, I firmly believe that the business was good for the club.

However, do i think he would add quality to our team now, undoubtedly yes, but we can't afford a player of his level.

As for his loyalty because he played for England and Wales, i completely disagree. He went to the tournament with England, but then chose Wales. It's like calling someone disloyal for test driving different cars before buying

I sincerely hope he does really well and i think he'll get a bigger move eventually
 
Go on about it for ten years like we did Kyle and it’s still not going to change owt.

He wanted to leave, we got the best price we could, anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t understand how agents work. It’s disappointing, very disappointing, he was the first player for ages that I’d get excited about when he came on, or even received the ball.

The real question is why didn’t other PL clubs see what we saw, what Howe saw? This is like Maguire going to Leicester. How the fuck did the big clubs let that happen?
 
Sean Thornton said:
He also showed a complete lack of composure and awareness at times. Its youth and inexperience.

I do agree with your comment about glandular fever, which is a far more balanced take on the situation. That certainly affected his development whilst here.
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McCabe arranged for him to be infected with glandular fever.

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SwissBlade said:
Yeah what we need now we've had a bad run of 4-5 games is a young player we sold.... the blades way. Duffy has been largely brilliant in that free role this season.

Last season, Brooks had some excellent games, he had some very average (or poor) games too and he missed a large part of the season through illness, so i wouldn't put him in the top 10 Blades players.

Selling Brooks has allowed the club room to manoeuvre financially and for the above reasons, I firmly believe that the business was good for the club.

However, do i think he would add quality to our team now, undoubtedly yes, but we can't afford a player of his level.

As for his loyalty because he played for England and Wales, i completely disagree. He went to the tournament with England, but then chose Wales. It's like calling someone disloyal for test driving different cars before buying

I sincerely hope he does really well and i think he'll get a bigger move eventually
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I don’t think you can compare buying a car with choosing which country you represent. Or maybe that’s how modern players see it. Sad, if so.

Didn’t he turn down Wales u20s to play for England u20s at Toulon, then went back to Wales? Having had his dream snatched away once, when Man City released him, I can understand his thinking but he’s not shown any loyalty to anyone but himself.
 
nopigfansintown said:
Nobody can force you to sell a player with a four year contract.It's a choice no matter which way you square it. The club were only too happy to trumpet the fact he had no release clause in his contract.
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Exactly,
The player might want to go, but it's tough shit when he's signed a four year deal.
Transfers get refused all the time and until United learn to say no we'll never get anywhere

If they're not going to say no they could at least stop insulting fans with their bullshit

I don't go for the usual bollocks that he would have sulked and created problems in the squad.

What player trying to make a name for himself in the game would do that ?
He'd be committing professional suicide.
A well known player might have a strop knowing full well that another offer will come in at a later date, but an unknown, untested youngster, not a chance

Most likely he'd have stayed, got us promoted and then not wanted to leave unless it was to one of the big five for megamoney
 
TomJonesBlade said:
I didn't see anyone offering more, did you?

Perfectly justified to me. If we'd said £16million and Bournemouth said 'no', we may not have sold him and we wouldn't have signed Norwood or Egan.

No issue whatsoever with the Brooks sale.
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Chris Wilder confirmed our signings weren't contingent on the Brooks sale.

Confirms transfer budget not contingent on Brooks' sale. 7:45.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06d2mn1

Confirms "we've hardly touched the David Brooks money" 4:00.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06gcbs6
 
vorpal blade said:
he was playing in the first 10 games of his professional career - his talent was obvious, his execution wasn't honed, take the nutmeg at Hillsborough (talent) - take the ball he played through to Leon too high (inexperienced).

One of the biggest problems we have in South Yorkshire is an inferiority complex .... I think your above comment is symptomatic. If he had played the way he did against Wednesday and Leeds but for Liverpool .... his talent would have been recognised and lauded immediately.
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It’s not an inferiority complex, it’s just inferiority. We are inferior to Bournemouth, this is evidenced by our respective league positions.
 

Sean Thornton said:
He also showed a complete lack of composure and awareness at times. Its youth and inexperience.

I do agree with your comment about glandular fever, which is a far more balanced take on the situation. That certainly affected his development whilst here.
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You expect that though. He didn't show a lack of composure slotting at Elland Road to win us the game did he? You're bound to get that at his age with very little professional football to your name. To say he 'didn't show much' is frankly absurd.

It's a shame really, if he was a key man we'd have been looking upwards of £20mil rather than the 11/12 we settled for, I'm certain of it. He was a joy to watch and will be back at City one day I'm sure.
 
Topplayersleave said:
unknown, untested youngster...

Most likely he'd have stayed, got us promoted
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We got over £10m for an unkown, untested youngster with glandular fever? Well done Blades.

You might want to re-visit your interpretation of ‘most likely’ before someone comes along with probability ratios. Where’s Blades Analytics when you need him...
 
Topplayersleave said:
Exactly,
The player might want to go, but it's tough shit when he's signed a four year deal.
Transfers get refused all the time and until United learn to say no we'll never get anywhere

If they're not going to say no they could at least stop insulting fans with their bullshit

I don't go for the usual bollocks that he would have sulked and created problems in the squad.

What player trying to make a name for himself in the game would do that ?
He'd be committing professional suicide.
A well known player might have a strop knowing full well that another offer will come in at a later date, but an unknown, untested youngster, not a chance

Most likely he'd have stayed, got us promoted and then not wanted to leave unless it was to one of the big five for megamoney
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He wanted a move. He wanted, understandably, PL riches. The club , because of the owners, needed the money. Like it or not, players and agents have the power. Whether rated incredibly highly or not, anyone not realising the four year contract just protected our position financially doesn't have a clue about the realities for a club at our financial level.
 
vorpal blade said:
he was playing in the first 10 games of his professional career - his talent was obvious, his execution wasn't honed, take the nutmeg at Hillsborough (talent) - take the ball he played through to Leon too high (inexperienced).

One of the biggest problems we have in South Yorkshire is an inferiority complex .... I think your above comment is symptomatic. If he had played the way he did against Wednesday and Leeds but for Liverpool .... his talent would have been recognised and lauded immediately.
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Like Ben Woodburn then?
 
nopigfansintown said:
And the Waghorn and/or Freeman money I guess?
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Well if you take into account we’ve lost money year on year, we’ve got no cash reserves. So, unless we intended to spend the Brooks money on these players, I’ve no idea where it was going to come from, nor where the money for Egan came from.

Tbh, I haven’t got a clue what’s going on, none of it makes sense, which is why I’m not going to try to predict what we have or haven’t got. I wish Wilder had just kept his cards close to his chest.
 
Eric Cartman said:
You expect that though. He didn't show a lack of composure slotting at Elland Road to win us the game did he? You're bound to get that at his age with very little professional football to your name. To say he 'didn't show much' is frankly absurd.

It's a shame really, if he was a key man we'd have been looking upwards of £20mil rather than the 11/12 we settled for, I'm certain of it. He was a joy to watch and will be back at City one day I'm sure.
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We didn’t ‘settle for’ the fee though. No other club, despite their multi-million pound scouting systems, offered a penny more, or indeed anything at all. for the S2 Ronaldo.

Tufty, whilst regretting that the lad wouldn’t agree to stay for another year (anyone suggesting we could have forced him once his leech was securely clamped is remarkably naive) didn’t even hint at suggesting that our club had any real option. His disappointment was specifically directed at Brooks and his leech, nobody else.
 
Sean Thornton said:
He wanted a move. He wanted, understandably, PL riches. The club , because of the owners, needed the money. Like it or not, players and agents have the power. Whether rated incredibly highly or not, anyone not realising the four year contract just protected our position financially doesn't have a clue about the realities for a club at our financial level.
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And the job of his agent is to highlight his buyout clauses to potential suitors. After all, they aren't doing their job otherwise.
 
Sean Thornton said:
He wanted a move. He wanted, understandably, PL riches. The club , because of the owners, needed the money. Like it or not, players and agents have the power. Whether rated incredibly highly or not, anyone not realising the four year contract just protected our position financially doesn't have a clue about the realities for a club at our financial level.
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You’re wasting your time. This has been done again and again. Every player that wants a move gets a fucking move, except Berahino, which ruined his career and cost West Brom about £20m.
 

Pinchy said:
We didn’t ‘settle for’ the fee though. No other club, despite their multi-million pound scouting systems, offered a penny more, or indeed anything at all. for the S2 Ronaldo.

Tufty, whilst regretting that the lad wouldn’t agree to stay for another year (anyone suggesting we could have forced him once his leech was securely clamped is remarkably naive) didn’t even hint at suggesting that our club had any real option. His disappointment was specifically directed at Brooks and his leech, nobody else.
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It’s not naivety, it’s sheer bloody mindedness to refuse to accept how things are with the sole purpose of having a dig at the club.
 
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