David Brooks - Sky Sports Article

[Sheffsteel]

People seem the be forgetting the timeline, as though it’s “back to the future”.

Some people have this logic.

We sell Calvert-Lewin as an 18 year old for 1 million when he was 5th choice strike in league 1.
Over the years he plays with better players, developed and massively improves. Eventually when he’s 25 years old he plays for England and there’s talk he worth 30 million.

Some of our fans then have this weird logic of “why did we sell him as a 18 year old because if we’d have kept him he’d now be worth 30 million. Just proves we were robbed selling him for only 1 million”.

You can only judge deals taking in the factors at the time of the deal.
An example is most of our fans currnently think Ben Woodburn is poor but he could easily join another Championship club in January and look really impressive. I bet some of our fans will then be saying they knew all along that Woodburn was the most talented player at the club and we should have played him more.

 

[Pierre's PC]

Brooks was very obviously the best player we've had a Sheffield United in my lifetime ...... I would include Currie in that.

He was decent but let's not go all Bruno Riberio.

He wasn't even the best player in our team at the time

 

[Sean Thornton]

Rearrange thes words to make a comprehensible point?



Sorry mate, but you've lost me there.

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Things have happened since Wilder stated the Brooks money hadn't been touched. Seven million things we know about. But we still get the rambling thoughts on what ifs, forgetting we're a loss making club before transfer bonuses and no one other than the fans is putting any money in. Yet still we have the ridiculous notion there's £11m quid in a teapot in the boardroom.

Then you have those who can't bring themselves to state the £11m isn't there because they're keeping the powder dry for a late January "l told you so". Which is bollocks because without a huge change i the ownership issue, anyone with a brain knows Wilder doesn't have a huge budget to play with. Which he seems to be alluding too.

 

[snootyfenooty]

An example is most of our fans currnently think Ben Woodburn is poor but he could easily join another Championship club in January and look really impressive. I bet some of our fans will then be saying they knew all along that Woodburn was the most talented player at the club and we should have played him more.

At the start of the season Woodburn was arguably on a par with Brooks but he's not exactly had the opportunity to display his talents with us. Please don't base your judgement on his cameo performances to date. This is another instance where I fear we're going to end up with egg on our faces.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Love a feel good article that transforms into a club bashing agenda

 

[Sean Thornton]

People seem the be forgetting the timeline, as though it’s “back to the future”.

Some people have this logic.

We sell Calvert-Lewin as an 18 year old for 1 million when he was 5th choice strike in league 1.
Over the years he plays with better players, developed and massively improves. Eventually when he’s 25 years old he plays for England and there’s talk he worth 30 million.

Some of our fans then have this weird logic of “why did we sell him as a 18 year old because if we’d have kept him he’d now be worth 30 million. Just proves we were robbed selling him for only 1 million”.

You can only judge deals taking in the factors at the time of the deal.
An example is most of our fans currnently think Ben Woodburn is poor but he could easily join another Championship club in January and look really impressive. I bet some of our fans will then be saying they knew all along that Woodburn was the most talented player at the club and we should have played him more.

There's still the unanswerable question on these player sales. "where were the other bids?" That has a few hiding under the table.

 

[Houston_Blade]

It's only been discussed twenty or thirty tims in detail on here but if you accept that you can't ramble on about it like you're the only one to have realised what COULD happen IF.

Any advance on sixty million btw?

£60m plus Wilson is what I think we should have held out for.

 

[TJB.]

When Bournemouth offload him in 12 months time for £60m that's when we'll look really stupid. £11m for a player of his quality is an absolute joke these days, I don't know why anyone's attempting to justify it.

I didn't see anyone offering more, did you?

Perfectly justified to me. If we'd said £16million and Bournemouth said 'no', we may not have sold him and we wouldn't have signed Norwood or Egan.

No issue whatsoever with the Brooks sale.

 

[TJB.]

There's still the unanswerable question on these player sales. "where were the other bids?" That has a few hiding under the table.

Precisely.

 

[snootyfenooty]

There's still the unanswerable question on these player sales. "where were the other bids?" That has a few hiding under the table.

There weren't any. United took the first offer.

See you, I'm off back to the table.

 

[Sean Thornton]

£60m plus Wilson is what I think we should have held out for.

Plus a 25% sell on clause when he leaves tin pot Bournemouth (copyright Owlstalk) to a big club.

 

[Harrisblade]

Brooks better than Currie was already.

Someone set fire to this thread please.

No let it stand as a monument to stupidity!
Currie showed more football quality in his Blades debut game than Brooks managed in all his appearances for us (and I include the Hillsboro' nutmeg)

 

[Sean Thornton]

There weren't any. United took the first offer.

See you, I'm off back to the table.

CAN YOU HEAR ME UNDER THERE?



So no one else decided to bid when they knew, like you, he'd be worth £60m in18 months time and United were selling him for £11m. There were no other bids. Anything else other than United were willing to sell is conjecture.

At least you haven't gone right through the back of the wardrobe and said he was better than Currie......


Look out for spiders.......

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Brooks ,Calvert-lewin Adams ,Maguire all for the price of half a parachute payment , makes the WHU fine look very cheap .

and there's the problem in a nutshell, the Prem League and it's ridiculous prize money/wages/parachute payments. The fact Bournemouth can just give us £12M out of their loose change is a joke, 'lower level' clubs have absolutely no choice in the matter these days, I don't care what people say about contracts.

 

[Sean Thornton]

No let it stand as a monument to stupidity!
Currie showed more football quality in his Blades debut game than Brooks managed in all his appearances for us (and I include the Hillsboro' nutmeg)

WITCH!

Admit it. You just hate Brooksy.

 

[Revolution]

"Good business". Always good business.

And yet, we've had one season in the top flight in the last 25 years.

Hmm.

 

[vorpal blade]

He wasn't even the best player in our team at the time

he was playing in the first 10 games of his professional career - his talent was obvious, his execution wasn't honed, take the nutmeg at Hillsborough (talent) - take the ball he played through to Leon too high (inexperienced).

One of the biggest problems we have in South Yorkshire is an inferiority complex .... I think your above comment is symptomatic. If he had played the way he did against Wednesday and Leeds but for Liverpool .... his talent would have been recognised and lauded immediately.

 

[I should coco]

Then you have those who can't bring themselves to state the £11m isn't there because they're keeping the powder dry for a late January "l told you so"

There'll be some itchy trigger fingers on the 1st of January but they know they'll need to wait until the 31st. There will then be an almighty shitstorm when we don't sign Naymar.

without a huge change in the ownership issue, anyone with a brain knows Wilder doesn't have a huge budget to play with. Which he seems to be alluding too

You'd think so, but a lot simply refuse to accept it.

It doesn't matter whether the Prince or KM has the money or not. Trust has broken down, so until one of them has 100% control there will be no investment (other than that generated by sales). None!

It really is that simple.

 

[I should coco]

e was playing in the first 10 games of his professional career - his talent was obvious, his execution wasn't honed, take the nutmeg at Hillsborough (talent) - take the ball he played through to Leon too high (inexperienced).

One of the biggest problems we have in South Yorkshire is an inferiority complex .... I think your above comment is symptomatic. If he had played the way he did against Wednesday and Leeds but for Liverpool .... his talent would have been recognised and lauded immediately.

Good points but you've already shot your load with the silly 'better than Currie' line.

For that reason, I'm out......

 

[vorpal blade]

Brooks better than Currie was already.

just watch

 

[nopigfansintown]

Liverpool couldn’t keep hold of Suarez, Spurs couldn’t keep hold of Bale and Man Utd couldn’t keep hold of Ronaldo
But some how our fans expect us to refuse money that improves our team when a much richer, more attractive club comes callling.

Let’s not forget at the time Brooks couldn’t even get in our 1st team, he was a substitute.
And if he was here now he still wouldn’t be a regular. He’s a winner at Bournmouth but we don’t use wingers.

Brooks was a player for the future but unfortunately all the pressure is based on the here and now.
Would love for us to have kept Brooks but objectively it was a good deal for all 3 parties at the time.

Some of our fans seem paranoid that everyitme we sell a player with potential, then he’s a future international.
Wonder what happened to that massive talent Jacob Mellis, what about the best striker since Edwards Jordan Slew.
How about the best goalie since Alan Kelly Aaron Ramsdale. Then there’s that striker who was going to be an England regular Che Adams.

Whereas others selectively and successfully state which players will be successful once they leave United. Others applaud every player sale (not claiming you do by the way), and then claim said players potential couldn't have been assessed at the time.

 

[vorpal blade]

silly 'better than Currie' line.

just watch .... the thing Currie lacked was application (as far as I remember), the standard of the professional game now won't let him rest on his laurels.

 

[Sean Thornton]

just watch

You said he was the best player we've HAD. Including Currie. Which is nonsense.


"Brooks was very obviously the best player we've had a Sheffield United in my lifetime ...... I would include Currie in that".

 

[vorpal blade]

...... don't you think Currie is ever so slightly over-rated at Bramall Lane ...... naming a stand and a restaurant or something after him. That we hero worship him so much is just a sign of our lack of success IMO?

 

[Pinchy]

We can all guess about the reasons he was sold but 'board room squabble' (and the need for immediate cash injection) is my favourite otherwise I feel we may have got another season from him.

Unlike Alan Partridge, he didn’t want another season. His new leech was quite determined he’d be leaving. Tufty said at the time he knew Brooks would be off as soon as that particularly thirsty leech came on the scene.

Sorry to disappoint the Agenda Brigade.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Love a feel good article that transforms into a club bashing agenda

Indeed and McCabe will be the biggest twat around for sanctioning the sale - it's just the s2$su way !

UTB

PS: who's PAYING the £25K per week Norwood is apparently on?

 

[Pinchy]

You said he was the best player we've HAD. Including Currie. Which is nonsense.


"Brooks was very obviously the best player we've had a Sheffield United in my lifetime ...... I would include Currie in that".

Astonishing that he very rarely made the starting eleven and was more often than not anonymous when he did.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Astonishing that he very rarely made the starting eleven and was more often than not anonymous when he did.

That's TC for you..........

 

[Eric Cartman]

Astonishing that he very rarely made the starting eleven and was more often than not anonymous when he did.

I'd disagree with that, he showed glimpses of brilliance nearly every game he played.

He was the perfect second striker for us, playing as the go between of Leon and Duffy. Delight to watch. If it wasn't for glandular fever getting him he'd have become our key man.

 

[Sean Thornton]

...... don't you think Currie is ever so slightly over-rated at Bramall Lane ...... naming a stand and a restaurant or something after him. That we hero worship him so much is just a sign of our lack of success IMO?

That's a justification for saying a undoubtedly talented kid who hardly played for us is a better player than he was? Jesus.

Deane was a far better player for us.