Crud Evans

[Stafford Blade]

I was slated by many on here a while ago for slagging this bloke off.

Anyway, we're now in February and he still has the scoring record of a left back that gets a nosebleed when going over the halfway line.

Do we try and get rid of this duffer and take a big loss on him? Or keep playing the useless lump in the hope that a) he discovers where the net is and b) shows a bit of effort once or twice before the season is over.

I dread to think how much he's on a week but i'll be amazed if he's not in the top 5 earners. But at least he is costing us sod all in goal bonuses. Actually, maybe that's why he's starting every game?!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

No, apart from the goal record which is a fact I don't agree with anything you've posted.

 

[Stafford Blade]

so you're a fan of strikers that can't score and don't put a shift in?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Nope I'm a fan of strikers who show more technical ability than the rest of the squad.

You will find plenty of allies in your argument though.

One point I will make is Billy also got stick for not scoring yet he seems to have picked up away from Blackies tactics.

I leave this thread for the others now to come on and slate him.

 

[Stafford Blade]

Nope I'm a fan of strikers who show more technical ability than the rest of the squad lazy.

You will find plenty of allies in your argument though.

One point I will make is Billy also got stick for not scoring yet he seems to have picked up away from Blackies tactics.

I leave this thread for the others now to come on and slate him.

technical ability is all well and good but he can't put the ball in the net and that is his job.

Cresswell ain't the most gifted player in the squad but he's already scored more than evans

 

[beechblade]

technical ability is all well and good but he can't put the ball in the net and that is his job.

Cresswell ain't the most gifted player in the squad but he's already scored more than evans

And he has vast more experience than Evans in the game. This is the most amount of Games Ched has played in his career at any sort of decent competive level.

 

[lenners]

Nope I'm a fan of strikers who show more technical ability than the rest of the squad.

You will find plenty of allies in your argument though.

One point I will make is Billy also got stick for not scoring yet he seems to have picked up away from Blackies tactics.

I leave this thread for the others now to come on and slate him.

Technical ability? And you're not even joking.
Pay me £15,000 to £20,000 a week and I'll gladly show my ability to continually blast a football into a wall ten yards away whenever we get a free kick.

 

[alcoblade]

It's clear we haven't got a gem on our hands, and he's had our pants down with the contract - so we wont get any sort of a fee for him.

The season's over AFAIC so we may aswell hold on and see if those who miraculously see something in him are right. The only problem with this is who he keeps out - Cresswell and Henderson who vastly outscore him (let's not complicate a strikers role, it IS to score goals) or Camara who would outscore him and adds a new dimension to our play? Sadly not a dimesnion that interests the manager as it doesn't involve being able to defend.

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[marko1889]

well wats the situation with his deal, i thought we only paid the 3mill if we were to go up. thats not really likely this year with the way we play. anyone clear on that??

 

[Rapturian]

Pay me £15,000 to £20,000 a week and I'll gladly show my ability to continually blast a football into a wall ten yards away whenever we get a free kick.

Which happens how often exactly? Once a match? Once every other match? To be able to continually blast the ball into the wall then you have to be continually within shooting range and.... well come on fellas it's United we're talking about.

I can sort of see where people are coming from with regards his goal count but i do feel there's other things to consider. For starters his confidence is shot, in no small part down to the fact that he knows he's gonna get dragged off by Blackwell at any moment.

Yes his work rate could be higher at times and yes his positioning etc could improve and probably will over time. But under Blackwell? And playing the way that we do? I'm not so sure.

 

[alcoblade]

I can sort of see where people are coming from with regards his goal count

Come on fella - how many fewer goals could he have scored before you actually agreed with where people were coming from with regards his goal count?

*Just for the sake of my sanity, let's be clear he plays as a striker.

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[legendbadger]

so does heskey but he dont always score.

 

[Rapturian]

Come on fella - how many fewer goals could he have scored before you actually agreed with where people were coming from with regards his goal count?

Not saying I don't agree. The goals return is poor, it's there for anyone to see. I just think it's not as black and white as most people would point out.

To be fair if Ched was missing chances every game I probably would have started this thread

 

[Stafford Blade]

Not saying I don't agree. The goals return is poor, it's there for anyone to see. I just think it's not as black and white as most people would point out.

To be fair if Ched was missing chances every game I probably would have started this thread

I'd rather he was missing chances. At least it would mean he was getting into the right areas

 

[Nick Jansky]

Anybody who is slagging off Ched but also advocates the removal of Blackwell doesn't understand football, frankly. For Ched, read Sharp. There were enough morons (c Paul Walker) on here dissing Billy before he went to Donny to play for a proper manager, and prove that he can be effective in this division. I'm sure Ched will leave us in the next year if we can recoup on him, because he is a high earner, and at the moment anything which isn't bolted down gets sold, if it has any value. If he gets the right move, he will prove lots of people wrong, as has Billy.

 

[bricktop]

The biggest difference in my eyes between Billy Sharp and Ched Evan was that if Billy Sharp was playing he would at least try and put a shift in.

Ched Evans has been well, anonymous in most of the games i have seen him play.

If i think about it, i'm very very hard pressed to think of a worse striker i have seen play for the Blades than Ched Evans.

I've seen us make a lot of awful signings but at the moment Ched is just about being kept from the top spot by John Ebbrell

 

[Kev Gee]

Ched Evans will score goals in this league.

We just dont play him right.

 

[LouTheBlade]

I will tell you what Ched's problem is (keep in mind I have been very dissapointed with his impact and have criticised him in the past);

He is a striker that clearly wants the ball into feet. You can see that when he gobs his team mates after a bad pass. Sadly we dont provide that sort of service regularly enough for him. He looks a lot more dangerous when he is given control of the ball in good areas.

The other problem he has is that quite often KB doesnt play him as the furthest man up the pitch (i.e. centre forward), which is where he wants to be. They call him a 'poor man's Alan Shearer' yet play him in a Teddy Sheringham style role off the front man.

He has a lot to prove but he needs to be given the tools to do it. By playing him to his strengths and in his correct position he might have the opportunity to show his quality. I'm not satisfied with his contribution but at the same time he has upped his work rate recently and our style of play seems to frustrate him. You can tell in his body language.

 

[Vistoma]

First post for months from me........... teddy has landed back in the pram!

Ched has good movement and gets into the spaces a good midfielder would play the ball into..... enough said

 

[DP8789]

The problem with the ched situation is that he has the potential too be a good player, but a player with potential isnt what we needed to get us where we want too be in the short term. Lets be honest about it, weve took a risk and its not paid off. The lads has less than 100 appearances at all levels and manages a goal every 3 games throughout. Ok he's not doing that for us at the minute, but he could if he applied himself a bit better, the quality is there in some of his play, ie his control and short play, but he still looks unfit too me, i dont know how thats possible, but his work rate is shocking some times and he just seems to dissapper. now its easy for us to blame the southern pricks tactics on cheds game but cresswell likes the ball too feet and he scores plenty. the lad needs times, confidence and most of all support from us. its gonna get us nowhere, lets try and stay positive, get behind the lad and give him some time. Looking at the statistics below he can do it at u21 level and did it at norwich.

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Manchester City 16 1
Norwich City 28 10
Sheffield United 26 3

National team 4 - 1
Wales U21 13 - 13
Wales U19 11 - 2

 

[chrisyb99]

How can anyone say ched doesnt put a shift in? Compare him to the workload of say Hendo and see how much ground they both cover in the same amount of time and if Hendo covers more ground I will be mroe than happy to run around Sheffield naked, omce people have it in for a player they cannot see any good work they do, hence looking through blinkers at the work Ched actually puts in.......in very similar to Squinny, I really dont see the point in him as a footballer so will rarely see him or admit to him doing something good

 

[LouTheBlade]

How can anyone say ched doesnt put a shift in? Compare him to the workload of say Hendo and see how much ground they both cover in the same amount of time and if Hendo covers more ground I will be mroe than happy to run around Sheffield naked, omce people have it in for a player they cannot see any good work they do, hence looking through blinkers at the work Ched actually puts in.......in very similar to Squinny, I really dont see the point in him as a footballer so will rarely see him or admit to him doing something good

I wouldnt say Ched was ever lazy by any stretch and his work rate has improved a lot IMO over the last couple of months but its unfair to say he covers more ground than Hendo. Because Darius isnt particularly quick people seem to think he doesnt cover a lot of ground - I suggest you watch him more closely from here onwards. He works like a dog and takes a lot of physical hammer for his strike partner. Very underrated and we're lucky to have him.

I would also remind he is our top scorer by some distance. I believe its 11 goals in 22 games which is a phenomenal record for someone who people make out to be a cart-horse. Its like the Andy Gray scenario all over again.

 

[Big Mart]

Monty runs about more than anyone and is absolutely fucking crap so bang goes the "putting a shift in" criticism.

:gallop:

 

[Grecian2000]

I like Ched.

I just hope we see him play for a proper manager before we ditch him (eg. Sharp, Cotts)

 

[super_pig]

it's like groundhog day.. except the player isn't billy sharp

 

[super_pig]

i was about to thank you and then i saw this..
> in very similar to Squinny

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

. For starters his confidence is shot, in no small part down to the fact that he knows he's gonna get dragged off by Blackwell at any moment.

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Also the fact that any perceived mistake is pounced on by the boo-boys at the lane. They were the ones that drove out poor old Billy by wailing and waving shoes in the air. Blackwell is starting to respond to pressure from the great unwashed, which is a worrying sign.
It's funny how money always comes into the equation as well. "15 grand a week for that Seth. Bloody 'ell. I cud kick it better than that".

 

[chrisyb99]

i was about to thank you and then i saw this..
> in very similar to Squinny

typo error, was ment to say IM similar with squinny, I detest him but then again, I wont start or place long comments about him slagging him off at every oppertunity

 

[bricktop]

. For starters his confidence is shot, in no small part down to the fact that he knows he's gonna get dragged off by Blackwell at any moment.

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Also the fact that any perceived mistake is pounced on by the boo-boys at the lane. They were the ones that drove out poor old Billy by wailing and waving shoes in the air. Blackwell is starting to respond to pressure from the great unwashed, which is a worrying sign.
It's funny how money always comes into the equation as well. "15 grand a week for that Seth. Bloody 'ell. I cud kick it better than that".

Which Billy did the great unwashed drive out?

 

[alcoblade]

Also the fact that any perceived mistake is pounced on by the boo-boys at the lane. They were the ones that drove out poor old Billy by wailing and waving shoes in the air. Blackwell is starting to respond to pressure from the great unwashed, which is a worrying sign.
It's funny how money always comes into the equation as well. "15 grand a week for that Seth. Bloody 'ell. I cud kick it better than that".

Pittsburg - serious question - do you go to the lane or do you live in exile?

Where are these boo boys you refer to with regards Evans? I hear lots of people who say he's crap (which there's a weight of evidence to support) and lot's of discussion on here. But week in, week out, he trudges off after 75 minutes when for another £15,000 he's warmed row z twice - and he's clapped off with not a sign of booing.

We can disagree about the merits of Evans - bit what can't be seriously debated is that he's getting fair treatment from the fans on the pitch - and so he should be, I might add.

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