Coutts - is he done?

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sitwell said:
Only because hes played twice as many and had runs in the team ,Coutts is a far better footballer ,needs a consistent run without injury.
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The problem is, Coutts being a better footballer is yet to be proven, and I doubt he ever will.
 
lol, if he's as shit as all these armchair managers on here make out, why have three separate managers spoken highly off him? And kept him in and around the team. Especially Wilder who is supposedly a manager that bins the shit and takes no prisoners. I will look to the professional mangers who all obviously see something in the player that you knockers don't. Maybe that's why they get paid top money to manage professional football teams and the Coutts knockers on here that slate him and the other players at every oprtunity don't.
 
I was brought up on a staple diet of Currie Woodward etc and I want to be entertained Baxter entertained me always looking for a killer pass some he executed but some he didn't Coutts just looks for the safe 5 yard pass usually square the sooner he does one the better
 
Lost at least two yards of pace since the serious injury he suffered at Derby, also seems to have lost his nerve when faced with receiving or making tackles.

I don't think he is ever going to get past that.
 
sitwell said:
Only because hes played twice as many and had runs in the team ,Coutts is a far better footballer ,needs a consistent run without injury.
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Baxter was technically good enough. Where he let himself down was fitness, weight training, and off field activities. It's a shame about those things because if he'd have worked hard at all 3 he would have been a league one promotion first teamer without a doubt.
 
Gee said:
lol, if he's as shit as all these armchair managers on here make out, why have three separate managers spoken highly off him? And kept him in and around the team. Especially Wilder who is supposedly a manager that bins the shit and takes no prisoners. I will look to the professional mangers who all obviously see something in the player that you knockers don't. Maybe that's why they get paid top money to manage professional football teams and the Coutts knockers on here that slate him and the other players at every oprtunity don't.
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He's on the transfer list and since losing at Halifax hasn't started with the first team since. Wilder then has gone on to say nobody wants any of his listed players. It's a ringing endorsement if I have ever heard one.
 
When Coutts is merely a long gone irrelevance Baxter will still have that great ball to Flynn v Charlton,the lovely goal v Dull at Wembley,plenty of excellent forward passes and some very well taken free kicks and penalties.

Coutts will invoke memories of..... sorry what was that bellend Clough dragged in called again?
 
Barney said:
Baxter was technically good enough. Where he let himself down was fitness, weight training, and off field activities. It's a shame about those things because if he'd have worked hard at all 3 he would have been a league one promotion first teamer without a doubt.
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No. He`d be a Premier League player who we and other lower league clubs wouldn`t have had a snowballs of signing.
 
sitwell said:
Only because hes played twice as many and had runs in the team ,Coutts is a far better footballer ,needs a consistent run without injury.
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Coutts has 52 league games for the blades in 18 months, scoring 0 goals and perhaps 3/4 assists

Baxter played 93 league games over 3 seasons, scoring 20 goals and I'd guess at least 15 assists

Neither player offers anything defensively, simply no case to be made that Coutts is the better/more effective player.

And agree with your assessment of Baxter.

TBF though, Wilder is making thawing sounds towards Coutts, interesting to see if this is trying to get his name out there to attract a bite
 
If he's that shit then why is Wilder still speaking highly of him.
I have mixed opinions on him, but I don't sit there thinking I hope a Coutts post comes up so I can spout a load of shit about him again. Ffs there's mare than just Coutts that have and are under achieving at Sheffield United!
 
Gee said:
If he's that shit then why is Wilder still speaking highly of him.
I have mixed opinions on him, but I don't sit there thinking I hope a Coutts post comes up so I can spout a load of shit about him again. Ffs there's mare than just Coutts that have and are under achieving at Sheffield United!
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Well start a thread about them then. this is about Coutts and is he done or not. In an ideal world he would find where his head is at and get on with the player hes should be sitting in alongside Fleck. Wilder isn't going to slag him off, as it serves him no purpose in keeping him or finding a suitor. We don't have time fo passengers but if Wilder can do an O'Toole with him than great. If not pay him off.
 
Barney said:
Not sure there's enough evidence of that, but league one not a problem.
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He was considered a better talent than Barkley. Clearly at Everton as a young player his talent and potential was abundant. The 3 areas you rightly point up he neglected resulted in his demise.
 



Sheff de party said:
From what I've seen of Coutts, he's been our most talented player with the worst attitude. It's a tragic mix.

Blessed with a brilliant touch, skill and some brain at this level, most of the time he just looks like it's all too much effort. Is he frustrated with where he's found himself? Did he think someone would come and beg him to sign for them? Whatever his reasons, his talent remains and it looks highly unlikely he'll be going anywhere.

He'll not be first choice straight away but when he's on song, he's clearly got the ability for this level.

After predicting he'd be our best player last season, I don't feel qualified to judge, but I hear he's been getting more game time and doing alright.

So will he come good? Or have we pretty much seen the last of him?
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His being slow isn't what irritates me. His floppy, half arsed neshing of tackles and 50/50 challenges makes me seethe. Commitment in the challenge is the absolute minimum a professional should be doing
 
Someone just show him this and see how he responds. If he has anything about himself, he will want to show us. Has someone told him that after us, it's not going to get better for him.. come on Coutts lad.
 
sitwell said:
Only because hes played twice as many and had runs in the team ,Coutts is a far better footballer ,needs a consistent run without injury.
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When was he injured last season, or do you just mean where he went down after losing every tackle?
 
Foxy said:
He's got the technical ability and has looked good most of the pre-season.

Whether he's got the mobility and work rate Wilder's side will require remains to be seen... But if he hasn't he'll only be going one way.

Not sure he quite deserves a lot of the stick he gets.
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Your first two paragraphs foxy no one can argue with but your last one I simply can't agree with. If you can be arsed to look back over my posts regarding Coutts I predominantly stuck up for him when he was getting pelters on here but having watched some of the non performances he did last year he deserves everything he gets and I don't like criticising players as much as I have Coutts, he was one of the laziest bastards I have ever seen on a football pitch most of the time last season, other than his good stint in December.

I'm sorry but his decent pre season performances can't make me forget is utter shite, lazy and inept performances last season. He mugged us fans off just like Baxter and i can't stand that.
 
Brookblade said:
Coutts makes my blood boil I think injury has finished him but that's no excuse for his attitude and work ethic he loses the ball often caught in possession and I think opposing teams know he dallies on the ball and can't be arsed to track back his one positive is he can control a ball negatives weak,no pace, crap in the air,can't shoot, can't split defences with his passing,doesn't score goals he reminds of Butch Wilkins aka the crab short sideways passes all the time Baxter was ten times the player he'll ever be
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You have quoted all the reasons for not playing him (coutts ) if Wilder uses him then I would assume he will be putting in a shift to merit his place in the team.Let's wait and see ,he's a quality player and could be important to us But not playing the way he did under Clough and Adkins.
 
Gee said:
lol, if he's as shit as all these armchair managers on here make out, why have three separate managers spoken highly off him? And kept him in and around the team. Especially Wilder who is supposedly a manager that bins the shit and takes no prisoners. I will look to the professional mangers who all obviously see something in the player that you knockers don't. Maybe that's why they get paid top money to manage professional football teams and the Coutts knockers on here that slate him and the other players at every oprtunity don't.
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This is the thing though, he isn't shit, he just chooses to be a lazy, lapsadasical twat most of the time and this is what frustrates the fuck out of me anyway. Any fan is allowed their opinion and I respect yours but someone who disrespected and mugged all the Blades fans off last season doesn't deserve any respect. Armchair or not, my views are from watching the twat.
 
Some of the views slagging Coutts are frankly ridiculous.

Last season he was the best footballer at the club by a country mile and when he was good his performances stood out. He didn't only pass the ball square like some suggest, he was one of the few players last season prepared to drive forward with the ball at his feet and was superb with the ball to feet. His close control and the ability to receive the ball under pressure and move it on was and is his biggest asset. He never goes hiding and always wanta the ball.

There are valid criticisms of him, he doesn't have the energy to play 2 games a week and is a terrible tackler - also for his ability he should score more goals but, much like Kevin MacDonald, he is a link man who brings others into the game with quick passing and being comfortable in possesion when marked.

He was our best player for a perios around Christmas last year and had stand out games away at Burton, home to Bradford and Peterborough and his best performance was off the Bench against Fleetwood when henjust ran the game.

At times last season even his biggest critics admitted on here that he had put in some great performnces. To say he offers nothing and was a disgrace? Ridiculous. Hopefully with his first proper pre season for 3 years he may get some of that sharpness back.

Can he do better? Yes. Did he appear to have the legs at times? No. Should he be one of our highest earners given his fitness issues? No (but not his fault). Does he deserve the level of stick some give him? No way.

He's a quality footballer and think he will have a part to play next season.
 
Maybe Coutts has been involved in pre season cos Wilder has already stated he may need to use players on the transfer list til he gets who he wants in
 
Bladepicker said:
Some of the views slagging Coutts are frankly ridiculous.

Last season he was the best footballer at the club by a country mile and when he was good his performances stood out. He didn't only pass the ball square like some suggest, he was one of the few players last season prepared to drive forward with the ball at his feet and was superb with the ball to feet. His close control and the ability to receive the ball under pressure and move it on was and is his biggest asset. He never goes hiding and always wanta the ball.

There are valid criticisms of him, he doesn't have the energy to play 2 games a week and is a terrible tackler - also for his ability he should score more goals but, much like Kevin MacDonald, he is a link man who brings others into the game with quick passing and being comfortable in possesion when marked.

He was our best player for a perios around Christmas last year and had stand out games away at Burton, home to Bradford and Peterborough and his best performance was off the Bench against Fleetwood when henjust ran the game.

At times last season even his biggest critics admitted on here that he had put in some great performnces. To say he offers nothing and was a disgrace? Ridiculous. Hopefully with his first proper pre season for 3 years he may get some of that sharpness back.

Can he do better? Yes. Did he appear to have the legs at times? No. Should he be one of our highest earners given his fitness issues? No (but not his fault). Does he deserve the level of stick some give him? No way.

He's a quality footballer and think he will have a part to play next season.
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Good post but do you honestly believe that we could go up with Coutts playing in a 2 man midfield, BP? Obviously, you know my answer.
 
Is Coutts one of those players that always look good on the training pitch? I'm sure that I have read before that several players and managers have said this.
This would also make sense as there aren't any serious tackling going on. This theory also holds, that he looks good in pre season, where again tackling is at a minimum.
 



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