Could Marsh be developed to be the next Didzy?

[Champagneblade]

I’m in favour of returning to 3-4-1-2 (Duffy/McGoldrick period) or 3-5-1-1 (Ndiaye season).

One thing we miss is a proper genuine number 10.

Ings, Cannon am Campbell are all 9s. Not on the Keiffer Moore target man sense, but in the poacher, or mobile forward.

When we last got promoted, we had Didzy as a 10 or Ndiaye as one.

Both Gus and O’Hare are really number 8s. They are very advanced midfielders but they are not attackers really. You wouldn’t say O’Hare is the same as Didzy for instance.

I just wonder if we could be bold and push Marsh in. He’s always struck me as a very clever player. Some players need loans. Others just need to be thrown in, like David Brooks. Yes he had a mini loan at Halifax or somewhere like that but we had that choice to send him to Chesterfield or keep him and we did the latter and he prospered.

I’m thinking the pathway could open for Marsh if Wilder chooses the right formation.

I know it is U21 football but the guy knows where the net is. A hat-trick the other day shouldn’t go unrewarded and it’s not as if other forwards are making compelling case right now.

Hamer as a Duffy and Marsh just off Ings and I really like the look of that. You still have depth to bring others in and change games from the bench, but I like the idea of at least giving him the chance to show he could be a solution. He’s not a teenager anymore. What a shame if he just drifted off without even being given a shot.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Could Marsh be developed to be the next Didzy?

 

[Carlton Blade]

I’m in favour of returning to 3-4-1-2 (Duffy/McGoldrick period) or 3-5-1-1 (Ndiaye season).

One thing we miss is a proper genuine number 10.

Ings, Cannon am Campbell are all 9s. Not on the Keiffer Moore target man sense, but in the poacher, or mobile forward.

When we last got promoted, we had Didzy as a 10 or Ndiaye as one.

Both Gus and O’Hare are really number 8s. They are very advanced midfielders but they are not attackers really. You wouldn’t say O’Hare is the same as Didzy for instance.

I just wonder if we could be bold and push Marsh in. He’s always struck me as a very clever player. Some players need loans. Others just need to be thrown in, like David Brooks. Yes he had a mini loan at Halifax or somewhere like that but we had that choice to send him to Chesterfield or keep him and we did the latter and he prospered.

I’m thinking the pathway could open for Marsh if Wilder chooses the right formation.

I know it is U21 football but the guy knows where the net is. A hat-trick the other day shouldn’t go unrewarded and it’s not as if other forwards are making compelling case right now.

Hamer as a Duffy and Marsh just off Ings and I really like the look of that. You still have depth to bring others in and change games from the bench, but I like the idea of at least giving him the chance to show he could be a solution. He’s not a teenager anymore. What a shame if he just drifted off without even being given a shot.

Didzy was a superb athlete, extremely strong, great in the air, tactically excellent and vastly experienced. At 18, he'd already been bought by a PL club and at 21 he was scoring double figures in a Championship team after having 3 L1/L2 loans

Marsh hasn't proved he's a starter at L2 level and hasn't made matchday squads under Wilder over 50 Championship games where goalscoring has been a constant issue.

I think, for the sake of his career he needs a permanent move away

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

More importantly, could I be developed into the next TC? I still have some floppy hair which if combed right could be mistaken for actual hair, my varicose veins could easily be confused for mud stains under floodlights and I still wear my shirt outside my shorts.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Sorry have I missed something with Marsh? He's looked far too lightweight and made little impact in any men's football I have seen from him

 

[Slim Man]

Sorry have I missed something with Marsh? He's looked far too lightweight and made little impact in any men's football I have seen from him

Fleetwood fans loved him

Now I know it's a very different level to the championship, but it's a start and doesn't suggest he's far too lightweight

I'd like to see him given a chance

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Sorry have I missed something with Marsh? He's looked far too lightweight and made little impact in any men's football I have seen from him

I also don't understand what people have seen in him when he has played in the first team. Compare Marsh to when David Brooks and Ndiaye popped up and were tearing it up in the friendlies when they got the chance. That is the level a young player needs to be at to show they can hold their own in the championship. Marsh not even close. I am not saying he won't get there but for me he needs another season on loan at league 2 level (or lower league 1) so he can get the necessary experience at pro men's level. If he does get a go in the first team this season and proves me wrong, I will be more than happy.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

Personally, with the players we have at the club at present, I’m in favour of fucking off the ‘number 10’ role altogether and giving Campbell a partner up top. We barely play through the middle anyway and leaving TC to run his bollocks off before he’s knackered after 60 minutes every game is getting very tiresome.

 

[The Fox]

I've only seen his appearances in the 1st team so not the best judge but he looked some way off .
Reminds me physically of a Tony Philliskirk as a developing player who became a player however the game has moved on to more physical players .

Even with our forwards hes some way down the pecking order so doubt he'll get much opportunity anywhere in the 1st team .

 

[bertieblade]

Personally, with the players we have at the club at present, I’m in favour of fucking off the ‘number 10’ role altogether and giving Campbell a partner up top. We barely play through the middle anyway and leaving TC to run his bollocks off before he’s knackered after 60 minutes every game is getting very tiresome.

If only TC did run his bollox off, his reluctance to make runs off the ball is one of our biggest problems.
Good finisher, beyond that leaves a lot to be desired

 

[sufc323]

Sorry have I missed something with Marsh? He's looked far too lightweight and made little impact in any men's football I have seen from him

Agreed, every time he's played in the first team he looks completely lost

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

If only TC did run his bollox off, his reluctance to make runs off the ball is one of our biggest problems.
Good finisher, beyond that leaves a lot to be desired

There isn’t any publicly available data on ‘distance covered per 90’ that I can find, but I suspect you would find he covers a hell of a lot more ground than you think. He’s doing a 2 man job on his own at the minute and needs some support.

 

[Blademan89]

Didzy was a superb athlete, extremely strong, great in the air, tactically excellent and vastly experienced. At 18, he'd already been bought by a PL club and at 21 he was scoring double figures in a Championship team after having 3 L1/L2 loans

Marsh hasn't proved he's a starter at L2 level and hasn't made matchday squads under Wilder over 50 Championship games where goalscoring has been a constant issue.

I think, for the sake of his career he needs a permanent move away

Bit dramatic mate. Started off sensible and good point.

A good loan move away where hes starting regular football is definitely the way to go and I would bet large sums on him moving out in January on one.

Absolutely shocking from selles / recruitment/ loan management, that he hadnt been sent on loan at the start of the season, likewise with One & Brooks.

All three should be playing regular for a top L1 team or a team thats going to be more attacking / more of the ball than the opposition. Not some shit L2 /L1 side that's going to be struggling game to game.

 

[KMC-1889]

I also don't understand what people have seen in him when he has played in the first team. Compare Marsh to when David Brooks and Ndiaye popped up and were tearing it up in the friendlies when they got the chance. That is the level a young player needs to be at to show they can hold their own in the championship. Marsh not even close. I am not saying he won't get there but for me he needs another season on loan at league 2 level (or lower league 1) so he can get the necessary experience at pro men's level. If he does get a go in the first team this season and proves me wrong, I will be more than happy.

Not even those two, I’d argue One had a lot more about him and should be front of the queue to have a run in the first team.

Marsh has got a cracking shot on him and some really intelligent movement, which is why he excels at youth level. I agree with the someone above that said the best thing for all involved is probably a move away while his stock is so high, because the alternative is going to be some more short term loans and he leaves on a free before dropping down the leagues… see Amissah/Boyes et al.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Bit dramatic mate. Started off sensible and good point.

A good loan move away where hes starting regular football is definitely the way to go and I would bet large sums on him moving out in January on one.

Absolutely shocking from selles / recruitment/ loan management, that he hadnt been sent on loan at the start of the season, likewise with One & Brooks.

All three should be playing regular for a top L1 team or a team thats going to be more attacking / more of the ball than the opposition. Not some shit L2 /L1 side that's going to be struggling game to game.

Marsh needs to be realistic is my point. He's 21 and nowhere near the United first team. How long is it likely to take him to even get to 50 league appearances for United? He's obviously got some talent but he's struggling for a position. He needs to be playing at a club where they rely on him for goals and creativity

 

[nopigfansintown]

Looks technically very good. Well balanced, pucks up good spaces doesn't give the ball away and plays with his head up. The problem I see is that we don't have a big man for him to play off and we are in a relegation scrap whilst already carrying too many players who lack jey physical attributes. On paper hardly the place for a talented but lightweight attacking midfield player.

Now I'm going to contradict myself. I was impressed by his pressing and application during the cup game. Our best player by a distance that night. He was done after an hour but he left it all out there.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

When results go against us fans will always look at who isn't playing for answers... but Wilder isn't daft.
There's usually a good reason why those players aren't playing.

I've seen the AI lads promoted recently, "can't be any worse than what we're seeing" ... Yes, they absolutely can.

Now we're onto the youngsters, Oné, Marsh etc.
There's good reason for their absence. Whenever they've played competitive senior football for us they've looked some way off. They need dozens of games in men's football and they're not going to get it here without a crisis (or, more likely, relegation).

 

[Blademan89]

Marsh needs to be realistic is my point. He's 21 and nowhere near the United first team. How long is it likely to take him to even get to 50 league appearances for United? He's obviously got some talent but he's struggling for a position. He needs to be playing at a club where they rely on him for goals and creativity

I get where you coming from but he needs to be tested at a higher level, who's going to have more of the ball.

I also think he needs to fill out more of hes going to be central attacking mid or up front.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I get where you coming from but he needs to be tested at a higher level, who's going to have more of the ball.

I also think he needs to fill out more of hes going to be central attacking mid or up front.

I think he needs to learn how to be a consistent threat and how to get by as a sub par athlete though. The chances are, he won't be a high level Championship starter, purely because the majority of those come from PL academies. If he does get there, I think it'll be in 5 or 6 years after he's figured all that out

 

[Ned the Donkey]

More importantly, could I be developed into the next TC? I still have some floppy hair which if combed right could be mistaken for actual hair, my varicose veins could easily be confused for mud stains under floodlights and I still wear my shirt outside my shorts.

Get thisen an agent lad!

 

[brownblade]

Looks a nice footballer but so far it looks like he's a nice L2 or L1 footballer.

True, throw him in, stranger things have happened. I'm always up for trying things like that! Not much to lose currently.

 

[Wilderat Heart]

no.

 

[joe casey]

There will never be another David McGoldrick

 

[jimmymuir]

I’m in favour of returning to 3-4-1-2 (Duffy/McGoldrick period) or 3-5-1-1 (Ndiaye season).

One thing we miss is a proper genuine number 10.

Ings, Cannon am Campbell are all 9s. Not on the Keiffer Moore target man sense, but in the poacher, or mobile forward.

When we last got promoted, we had Didzy as a 10 or Ndiaye as one.

Both Gus and O’Hare are really number 8s. They are very advanced midfielders but they are not attackers really. You wouldn’t say O’Hare is the same as Didzy for instance.

I just wonder if we could be bold and push Marsh in. He’s always struck me as a very clever player. Some players need loans. Others just need to be thrown in, like David Brooks. Yes he had a mini loan at Halifax or somewhere like that but we had that choice to send him to Chesterfield or keep him and we did the latter and he prospered.

I’m thinking the pathway could open for Marsh if Wilder chooses the right formation.

I know it is U21 football but the guy knows where the net is. A hat-trick the other day shouldn’t go unrewarded and it’s not as if other forwards are making compelling case right now.

Hamer as a Duffy and Marsh just off Ings and I really like the look of that. You still have depth to bring others in and change games from the bench, but I like the idea of at least giving him the chance to show he could be a solution. He’s not a teenager anymore. What a shame if he just drifted off without even being given a shot.

I can see that this was posted at 2 am... I just wanted to ask how drunk you were when you posted this?

 

[FTPE]

That's a crazy comparison/question.
We dont know if Marsh is going to make it in mens football let alone reach the height of a fan favorite like Dids.
I think he has the talent and raw ability to make it, I just worry about his build and strength. He looks technically better than Jebbison, One and even Osula, and while they are the extreme level of 'youth level athlete' he doesn't even seem have the explosive-ness of a young weedy Brooks.

 

[Pedro Verde]

If only TC did run his bollox off,

Tony Currie never run his bollocks off
He didnt have to

 

[Houston_Blade]

Possibly, we’ll find out in about 10 years.

 

[raimond]

This thread has highlighted to me that Tyrese Campbell and Tom Cannon share their initials with Tony Currie. Surely if you can retire a shirt you can retire initials, it's blasphemy to call either of them TC.

 

[Silent Blade]

This thread has highlighted to me that Tyrese Campbell and Tom Cannon share their initials with Tony Currie. Surely if you can retire a shirt you can retire initials, it's blasphemy to call either of them TC.

Terry Curran too!

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Fuck me....

We've gone from sacking a manager who finished 3rd on 92 points to speculating whether a 21 year reserve team player should be playing more.....