[Confirmed] Walker back to Spurs

[lenners]

To me aswell, he's kept us in games defensively with his pace.

Has one mediocre display at Brom and now he's woeful. Words fail sometimes.

The level of intelligence of some of our fans is indeed frightening.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Unfortunately, not only are you unable to grasp simple mathematics regarding transfer fees, you are also unable to grasp that a lot of people are feeling the same way.
We're about to undergo the same old tiresome let's all rally round and decide fans who point out the self-evident truth about the club's bullshit are the ones who should be in the firing line.
Same old, same old.
Some of you are intelligent enough to know better. I'm not sure about you though Bob.

It's hard to do mathematics when the teacher won't give you any of the figures and then halfway through tells you it might not even be base 10.

Show us the figures.

You've been saying attendance will drop, they haven't.
You said Walker was sold for £2 Million, he wasn't.

I don't think you are in a position to patronise anyone on their numbers.

 

[Amsterdam Blade]

Woeful!!!!!!

Walker has been outstanding in the majority of games he has played this season!

I sometimes wonder if some people are watching games in a parallel universe to me!

I don't know what Spurs are thinking they are playing at, but this decision beggars belief!
They let 2 right backs leave on deadline day and then recall Walker at the last moment leaving us in the poo!

Why did they let 2 go out and then recall another. Ok, maybe they've save a little on wages by letting Hutton go and bringing Walker back, but surely a club the size of Spurs aren't scrabbling around for an extra few quid a week?

They should have let Naughton leave and kept on Hutton. They wouldn't have annoyed anyone then, and there was absolutely no need to do so.

I've never liked, or trusted, the "saggy faced" one, and that feeling has only been reinforced now!

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Unfortunately, not only are you unable to grasp simple mathematics regarding transfer fees, you are also unable to grasp that a lot of people are feeling the same way.
We're about to undergo the same old tiresome let's all rally round and decide fans who point out the self-evident truth about the club's bullshit are the ones who should be in the firing line.
Same old, same old.
Some of you are intelligent enough to know better. I'm not sure about you though Bob.

The problem len is that as ever, 'the self-evident truth' is just your opinion.

You have no idea about the exact details of the loans as none of us do. You will now do what you always do, turn the arguments in a different direction i.e Ched Evans, shouldn't have let them go in the 1st place etc etc. Who's the tiresome one ?

 

[lenners]

It's hard to do mathematics when the teacher won't give you any of the figures and then halfway through tells you it might not even be base 10.

Show us the figures.

You've been saying attendance will drop, they haven't.
You said Walker was sold for £2 Million, he wasn't.

I don't think you are in a position to patronise anyone on their numbers.

I'll indulge you for the sake of it. How much was Walker sold for?

 

[AJM]

I am not having a go at Walker, far from it, and I am not basing my view solely on WBA.

I would say he has been positionally poor and defensively naive in recent games, and strangley this aspect of his game seems to have gone backwards this season - I remember him looking particualrly solid when he first came into the side.

His pace gets him, and the team, out of a lot of trouble and is a great asset, and we all know he is a good technical footballer, with particualry good control and a decent tackle.

Perhaps his lack of progress in his position is one of the reasons Spurs are keen to get him back - who knows - but I still believe him going won't necessarily harm the team overall, and may have some unanticipated positives.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

And ultimately it doesn't matter even if we were shafted by Spurs. We put ourselves in that position in the first place. We're responsible, no-one else.

I imagine Everton fans will be having a bit of a chuckle at this particular situation, given we seemingly shafted them over the sale of Naughton in the first place.

Plenty of blame to hand around really. Us certainly, was always a danger given we don't own Walker. Why on earth Harry didn't simply keep Naughton as the main cover is anyone's guess, particularly as that had been the original intention - he tried to sell Hutton in the summer.

It's a damned good job that Geary regained fitness. He has his chance now to fully re-establish himself in the team.

 

[AJM]

The level of intelligence of some of our fans is indeed frightening.

No need to feel intimidated.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

So, either SUFC were being underhand in not telling the fans there could be a recall or Spurs gave reassurances that although they could recall they wouldn't and he would be here all season, but suddenly change their mind. But that would mean shenanigans by old twitchy, and surely that is without foundation and a slur on a blemish-free character?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You're the figures guy Len I would of thought you'd know.
Are you sure you want to ask someone who's intelligence you doubt?


Walker was sold for £3 Million plus another million on appearances. There is also a sell on clause should Tottenham cash in on him.

Surely if you have our figures on what Ched cost (which you are unable to show anyone or confirm anywhere) you would know these figures. Surely they are in the same document?

 

[lenners]

I am not having a go at Walker, far from it, and I am not basing my view solely on WBA.

I would say he has been positionally poor and defensively naive in recent games, and strangley this aspect of his game seems to have gone backwards this season - I remember him looking particualrly solid when he first came into the side.

His pace gets him, and the team, out of a lot of trouble and is a great asset, and we all know he is a good technical footballer, with particualry good control and a decent tackle.

Perhaps his lack of progress in his position is one of the reasons Spurs are keen to get him back - who knows - but I still believe him going won't necessarily harm the team overall, and may have some unanticipated positives.

Remarkable. How many clean sheets is it in recent home matches?
This has all been achieved with our right back playing poorly, being defensively naive etc?
Spurs need to recall him because he's been playing poorly and isn't progressing?
Ferk me, calling occupants of interplanetary craft.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

So Len, you think that Walker has been called back due to his good performances or because they are saving a few quid?


This whole saga could be back together by next week.

 

[Houso]

Remarkable. How many clean sheets is it in recent home matches?
This has all been achieved with our right back playing poorly, being defensively naive etc?
Spurs need to recall him because he's been playing poorly and isn't progressing?
Ferk me, calling occupants of interplanetary craft.

Not being funny Len, but how many clean sheets have we kept with Fortune and Taylor in the side too?

While I think Walker has been excellent of late, the clean sheets are indicative of much more than his form.

He was very poor defensively at the start of the season, but in the last couple of months he's been 100% solid. That said, I wasn't at WBA so can't comment on that one.

 

[SRBlade]

In the space of a week we lose 2 of the best defenders in the league and replace them with 2 more loans.

Needless to say its not ideal. Will we just stick with another core of about 15 players and compliment them with another 10 loanees?

 

[Bayingblade]

Think that's likely to be one less season ticket for United next season.

Hey Lenny, what's with all the negative waves? Look on the bright side. You'll be able to go back to watching your beloved Hammers

Come on, admit it, you love all the bad news that comes out of SUFC. In fact, you thrive on it.

Don't ya, eh?

You LUV IT!!

Like I say though, look on the bright side. If United were top of the league, playing entertaining football and sweeping all before them, you would be pretty bored staring at the 4 walls of that bedsit now wouldn't you?

 

[lenners]

You're the figures guy Len I would of thought you'd know.
Are you sure you want to ask someone who's intelligence you doubt?


Walker was sold for £3 Million plus another million on appearances. There is also a sell on clause should Tottenham cash in on him.

Surely if you have our figures on what Ched cost (which you are unable to show anyone or confirm anywhere) you would know these figures. Surely they are in the same document?

Where did you read all that Bob?

 

[AJM]

Remarkable. How many clean sheets is it in recent home matches?
This has all been achieved with our right back playing poorly, being defensively naive etc?
Spurs need to recall him because he's been playing poorly and isn't progressing?
Ferk me, calling occupants of interplanetary craft.

I may be falling to the influence of vivid recent observation (WBA) but, in short yes. Largely, I think that recent clean sheets have come despite of, rather than because of, Walker's defensive contribution - notwithstanding his pace.

To qualfiy - I don't think he's being playing poorly, as you attribute to me, but that he hasn't being defending well.

I think we lose an awful lot of vim and vigour in our attacking play with him going, and how we pick up this slack in the rest of the team is a real concern.

My point about Spurs recalling him becasue of lack of progression was no more than a musing. In any case, it is moot. The main point of my initial post was to offer the idea that perhaps the club did know that this was going to happen - hence the signing of Nosworthy - and that the 'not me guv' statement on the OS is designed to redirect fans anger away from them.

 

[lenners]

The problem len is that as ever, 'the self-evident truth' is just your opinion.

You have no idea about the exact details of the loans as none of us do. You will now do what you always do, turn the arguments in a different direction i.e Ched Evans, shouldn't have let them go in the 1st place etc etc. Who's the tiresome one ?

Come off it Fleety.
It's self evident we've sold our best players.
It's self evident we've either bought or loaned poorer players.
It's self evident we've spent the same amount of money on Evans as we received for Walker.
The small print on Walker's loan is just the icing.

 

[lenners]

"Largely, I think that recent clean sheets have come despite of, rather than because of, Walker's defensive contribution - notwithstanding his pace."

Thank God Harry's noticed and we can get a decent right back in instead.
Kyle gets proper coaching, we get a better replacement, everyone's a winner.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I may be falling to the influence of vivid recent observation (WBA) but, in short yes. Largely, I think that recent clean sheets have come despite of, rather than because of, Walker's defensive contribution - notwithstanding his pace.

Come off it AJM, everyone knows the clean sheets were down to Morgs and Kyle, possibly Del and Killa (pre transfer confirmation obviously) and had nothing to do with Killa, Taylor, Fortune, Stewart or Bunn.

For the record, I'm with you. Walker has been fantastic but often his pace gets him out of trouble of his own making. People forget though that he's barely got a season's worth of experience and the errors should become fewer in time.

 

[AJM]

Come off it AJM, everyone knows the clean sheets were down to Morgs and Kyle, possibly Del and Killa (pre transfer confirmation obviously) and had nothing to do with Killa, Taylor, Fortune, Stewart or Bunn.

For the record, I'm with you. Walker has been fantastic but often his pace gets him out of trouble of his own making. People forget though that he's barely got a season's worth of experience and the errors should become fewer in time.

No question - he has the potential to be anyhting he wants to be.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

No question - he has the potential to be anyhting he wants to be.

apart from a Blades player

 

[Guesty]

apart from a Blades player

If he WANTS to be a Blades player, he's an idiot.

 

[raul]

Irrespective of the spats, for me the only ray of light in the past year and a half has been watching our own two , young full backs bombing up and own the flanks without the fear modern football instills in people who take risks and play with a smile on their face.

Now, it's gone. And all there is left to argue about are different shades of grey.

 

[tomtheblade]

Len i have to admire the mental gymnastics you go through in order to criticise United, only pointing out the positives when they can be used against us to make a greater negative point.

Bravo, truly an outstanding performance.

Of course you do realise that when all a person gives is unequivocal criticism, it basically renders all said criticism from that person irrelevant, because there is no yardstick by which to gauge anything they say?


It's not rocket science.

 

[jodman]

Irrespective of the spats, for me the only ray of light in the past year and a half has been watching our own two , young full backs bombing up and own the flanks without the fear modern football instills in people who take risks and play with a smile on their face.

Now, it's gone. And all there is left to argue about are different shades of grey.

How very true.

I'm not bothered about the blame game; i'm just bitterly disappointed that the only young talent genuinely produced by the club in my lifetime no longer play in the red and white of Sheffield United.

 

[AJM]

Irrespective of the spats, for me the only ray of light in the past year and a half has been watching our own two , young full backs bombing up and own the flanks without the fear modern football instills in people who take risks and play with a smile on their face.

Now, it's gone. And all there is left to argue about are different shades of grey.

Amen to this.

 

[lenners]

Come off it AJM, everyone knows the clean sheets were down to Morgs and Kyle, possibly Del and Killa (pre transfer confirmation obviously) and had nothing to do with Killa, Taylor, Fortune, Stewart or Bunn.

For the record, I'm with you. Walker has been fantastic but often his pace gets him out of trouble of his own making. People forget though that he's barely got a season's worth of experience and the errors should become fewer in time.

The clean sheets are down to other players making up for Walker?

 

[LouTheBlade]

Typical United. Agree a non-beneficial deal for ourselves. If we had any sense we would not have agreed a recall clause which is obviously what was in the deal. That was clearly all bollocks about having first option on loan players as well - NOTHING CHANGES!

Shouldnt have sold Walker in the first place. The sensible thing would have been to cash in on Naughton and keep Walker but no......apparently we had no choice......there is always a choice!

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

The clean sheets are down to other players making up for Walker?

If you say so.