[Confirmed] Walker back to Spurs

[Wards]

Season long loans can be recalled during the January transfer window.

What I don't think we'll find out is whether it was set up as two window-to-window loans or as a season long deal. Either way he's gone and we have to deal with it.

It's not so much the fact we've lost a very talented lad (again) it's the worry of where our focal point of attack will come from. He's added so much to the attacking threat in recent weeks and I really can't see any other pace in the team.

I think he'll be a big loss. The only genuinely talented player we've had this season IMO. Hopefully someone can take on some of the responsibility.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

The owners sold them, the owners got us in a situation where this could happen, the owners were happy for everyone to believe Walker was here for the season, the owners are responsible for creating a team in which the only player worth watching can go 50 minutes before the closing of the window.
As for Ched, I can only advise you to look in the accounts as I think you've been advised to do several times now.
We sold Walker for £2m, spent more on Evans and look at where we are now.
The club's a fucking joke.

I've asked you to show me these figures and all you said was we've spend £3 Million total this season. A figure including transfer fees, loan fees and not breaking anything down to what Ched actually cost. Apart from the fact that Ched cannot of cost the entire £3 Million unless we got everyone else for free.

P.S. Walker was sold for £3 Million, plus add ons.


Loving the comment about we should of explained that a loan deal can be called back.

Press Release; United have also secured the season long loan of Kyle Walker. Spurs can obviously recall him as is normal with this type of deal.
The sky will tend to be blueish if we don't have cloud cover, Pope may be Catholic, and Bears have been known to shit in the woods.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

What do you mean Jim by doesn't make it 'right'.

Quite obviously, they have done nothing wrong. They've looked at the rules and taken him back. We would have no problem doing the same with someone we had loaned out who was needed back.

As Len says, it's the total lack of regard for the fans. Walker was just about the only reason to get excited about watching Utd (even though he aint our player) and that has gone. SUFC should have explained this as a possibility in my opinion.

It's interesting that you say Spurs have done nothing wrong in letting everyone believe it was a season long, yet SUFC have shafted the fans by doing the same.

 

[Micalijo]

If it was us who'd recalled a player out of the blue 50 minutes prior to the deadline, you'd be slagging us off to high heaven.

Why on earth would I do that?

 

[lenners]

I've asked you to show me these figures and all you said was we've spend £3 Million total this season. A figure including transfer fees, loan fees and not breaking anything down to what Ched actually cost. Apart from the fact that Ched cannot of cost the entire £3 Million unless we got everyone else for free.

P.S. Walker was sold for £3 Million, plus add ons.

Bob, not in the mood for your Ched-affair today. Look it up, work it out.
The fact we have to see that tosser turning out at £750,000 per goal when we can't keep a genuine talent that we've brought through even for one-year on loan is a complete and utter indictment of the management and ownership of this football club.

 

[SwissBlade]

Sorry Swiss but I aint having it - Spurs can do whatever they like, you cannot rely on anyone and it's wrong to blame Spurs for not doing this earlier. Maybe they couldn't shift Hutton and Naughton until Boro got money for Johnson? Who knows, but you can't blame Spurs for this.

And in terms of our planning, KB spent £3m on Ched and £400k on Taylor. That is more than enough to buy a few permanent, half decent CCC players if you know what you are doing. I'm not saying we turn down the chance to sign Walker on loan but we can't rely on Spurs or anyone.

Ha ha I didn't of course expect you to agree Mic!

Of course Spurs can do what they like (within the rules - whatever they are). I'm not blaming Spurs, I'm just asking why we were left in such a mess so late in the day.

I don't think its about Blackies planning. For all we know, Blackie could have been told that he can sign two players on permanent deals with a budget of 3.5million. The rest he could make up with loans....All i'm saying is we don't know, but I think there were decisions above his head

As for Spurs not moving earlier, according to Boro's site Naughton trained with Boro on Monday morning and was signed before Johnson's deal was done.

My point was that Spurs are a professional football club.
Of course they don't give a damn about us, I don't expect them to, but to be fair, we've no doubt paid some of Kyles wages all season, we've got him fit, we've given him valuable experience this season and they've given us a kick in the knackers for it.

Why was it so urgent? Edit - just read elsewhere that they can be recalled in the Jan transfer window so that explains the urgency

I always said that the Kyle's would have been better off at Everton

 

[Houso]

Why on earth would I do that?

Because criticising SUFC is your thing, no?

I may have misinterpreted of course.

 

[Micalijo]

It's interesting that you say Spurs have done nothing wrong in letting everyone believe it was a season long, yet SUFC have shafted the fans by doing the same.

It's nowt to do with Spurs Jim, that's my point. He's their player. I couldn't care less what is on Spurs website. SUFC should have explained that the best player by a mile might be taken back in January, regardles of what Spurs say. It is SUFC who have something to lose - Spurs are looking after their asset. We are not looking after our customers.

 

[Oreyt]

Either way he's gone and we have to deal with it.

That about sums it up.

So how do we deal with it? Loan window opens next week? Who should we be looking at?

 

[lenners]

One of the more remarkable things about this whole pathetic episode is that United were almost certainly talking to Spurs about Naughton and yet somehow didn't have a clue this was coming?
We're run by complete tools.

 

[Houso]

That about sums it up.

So how do we deal with it? Loan window opens next week? Who should we be looking at?

Kyle Naughton maybe... no wait...

It's a pity that we don't know how solid Del's legs are as I would have been happy with him as first choice till the end of the season.

 

[Houso]

One of the more remarkable things about this whole pathetic episode is that United were almost certainly talking to Spurs about Naughton and yet somehow didn't have a clue this was coming?
We're run by complete tools.

Len, why would we have a clue this was coming? Maybe we'd even been given assurances to the contrary. Had Spurs have said "We're going to take Walker back if Hutton and Naughton go", then we'd have had someone else lined up or at least be making noises about getting someone in.

It's clearly come as a massive shock to all involved. Including Walker.

There are many sticks with which to beat the club, but sorry, this isn't one of them. Go pick up another.

 

[SwissBlade]

One of the more remarkable things about this whole pathetic episode is that United were almost certainly talking to Spurs about Naughton and yet somehow didn't have a clue this was coming?
We're run by complete tools.

If we had him on a season loan why would we have any clue what was coming.

Presumably we'd have thought that if they are prepared to let Naughton go on loan then they must have good cover.

Of course you'd have known what was coming lenners yet oddly you never mentioned this in your doom and gloom threads of the past week.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

One of the more remarkable things about this whole pathetic episode is that United were almost certainly talking to Spurs about Naughton and yet somehow didn't have a clue this was coming?
We're run by complete tools.

Perhaps Spurs kept it quiet ?

As I said above, had we known Kyle W was going back we could have afforded Kyle N if wages were the only sticking point.

 

[lenners]

Len, why would we have a clue this was coming? Maybe we'd even been given assurances to the contrary. Had Spurs have said "We're going to take Walker back if Hutton and Naughton go", then we'd have had someone else lined up or at least be making noises about getting someone in.

It's clearly come as a massive shock to all involved. Including Walker.

There are many sticks with which to beat the club, but sorry, this isn't one of them. Go pick up another.

Er, yes it is. We should never have sold him in the first place FFS. This is just the classic icing on the fuck-up cake.

 

[Ollessendro]

Oh dear, oh dear. What on earth has happened?

We take him on a season long loan and then he gets recalled. How does that work? I thought McCabe had stipulated when selling him that he was coming back for a year.

Just as I thought we'd made a couple of really good signings and were look solid at the back again, this goes and happens. And here I was shooting my mouth off saying that we didn't need Naughton.

How on earth did we let this situation happen? Sheffield Unitred never cease to amaze me!?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Bob, not in the mood for your Ched-affair today. Look it up, work it out.
The fact we have to see that tosser turning out at £750,000 per goal when we can't keep a genuine talent that we've brought through even for one-year on loan is a complete and utter indictment of the management and ownership of this football club.

You aren't in the mood? In all honesty I couldn't give a fuck how you feel.

You've dropped his price by 750K since last month and can't provide any figures to back up your claims of £2.25 Million. Which were £3 Million a matter of weeks ago, a figure from which you wouldn't be swayed.
You didn't want us to sign Ward, who is now untouchable in your eyes, and you have claimed for seasons that our attendances figures were about to drop.

But I'm sure you are right that we should of forced a player to stay when he wants to leave the club. It's always been the case that a unhappy player tends to pull up trees once they are told they can't leave.

How are we supposed to trust these figures when you can't even get the one for Walker right?

 

[lenners]

Perhaps Spurs kept it quiet ?

As I said above, had we known Kyle W was going back we could have afforded Kyle N if wages were the only sticking point.

Spurs kept it quiet that Naughton and Hutton were going? We had no idea this was on the cards? We knew for starters Naughton was going.
Are we the only club in the country whose owners and managers have no idea what's going on in the game?
And ultimately it doesn't matter even if we were shafted by Spurs. We put ourselves in that position in the first place. We're responsible, no-one else.

 

[Mousey]

Er, yes it is. We should never have sold him in the first place FFS. This is just the classic icing on the fuck-up cake.

Can you do me a favour...

Can you please check your vagina to see if there is any sand in it?

This is an issue that needs addressing immediately.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Spurs kept it quiet that Naughton and Hutton were going? We had no idea this was on the cards? We knew for starters Naughton was going.
Are we the only club in the country whose owners and managers have no idea what's going on in the game?
And ultimately it doesn't matter even if we were shafted by Spurs. We put ourselves in that position in the first place. We're responsible, no-one else.

You suggested that we (SUFC) would have been fully aware that they intended to release Hutton and recall Walker following discussions about Kyle N. Quite clearly b0ll0x.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Spurs kept it quiet that Naughton and Hutton were going? We had no idea this was on the cards? We knew for starters Naughton was going.
Are we the only club in the country whose owners and managers have no idea what's going on in the game?
And ultimately it doesn't matter even if we were shafted by Spurs. We put ourselves in that position in the first place. We're responsible, no-one else.

and you aren't going to renew your ST next season. Let's see if you are as good as your word Len. Personally I think you will be full of shit.

Hopefully the club won't worry about it too much, as I'm getting two next year so it already covered.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

and you aren't going to renew your ST next season. Let's see if you are as good as your word Len. Personally I think you will be full of shit.

Hopefully the club won't worry about it too much, as I'm getting two next year so it already covered.

Don't worry Bob, I remember a certain someone saying he was going to burn his ticket if Akinbiyi signed

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

The only worry I have is that he won't be as good as his word.

 

[User Name:]

I think Harry and Spurs are lower than a snakes belly.

Having said that, its Uniteds fault and its a sad state of affairs we cant keep hold of 2 promising youngsters for more than a season. Two Blades as well.

Its times like these I am glad I am away from all this shite.

Let down again.

Where is the hope? I am getting more and more convinced there is none.

 

[AJM]

Presumably we did know that this might happen, so got in Nosworthy who can play right across the back-line - including right back - and is a predominantly defensive player.

I presume that, knowing this would be unpopular, the club have pleaded ignroance.

Whisper it quietly, but I wonder if Blackwell may prefer not having the pressure to play Walker in every game, which seems to have been the case during his loan. Whilst exhilirating going forward, he has been woeful defensively over recent games, culminating in his nadir at West Brom.

I think what we have probably ended up with is a more solid defensive base, and a team set-up which allows playing Ward on the right without worrying too much about overly exposing ourselves that flank.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Obviously we would of been aware this could happen, the only thing the club did wrong is take Spurs at their word that we had him for the season.

 

[Grecian2000]

Whisper it quietly, but I wonder if Blackwell may prefer not having the pressure to play Walker in every game, which seems to have been the case during his loan. Whilst exhilirating going forward, he has been woeful defensively over recent games, culminating in his nadir at West Brom.

Woeful?

Must mean something different to you than it does to me.

 

[AJM]

Woeful?

Must mean something different to you than it does to me.

Perhaps a little strong - but certainly no better than poor defensively.

 

[lenners]

The only worry I have is that he won't be as good as his word.

Unfortunately, not only are you unable to grasp simple mathematics regarding transfer fees, you are also unable to grasp that a lot of people are feeling the same way.
We're about to undergo the same old tiresome let's all rally round and decide fans who point out the self-evident truth about the club's bullshit are the ones who should be in the firing line.
Same old, same old.
Some of you are intelligent enough to know better. I'm not sure about you though Bob.

 

[Wards]

Woeful?

Must mean something different to you than it does to me.

To me aswell, he's kept us in games defensively with his pace.

Has one mediocre display at Brom and now he's woeful. Words fail sometimes.