[CONFIRMED] Nigel Clough signs a 2 and a half year contract

[OllyBlade]

Being 'lined up' according to the Sun. Quite probably lazy journalism but still might prompt some interest/discussion.

 

[Torrix1889]

Frying Pan....fire.....?

 

[SotonBlade]

I think there are worse candidates around

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I think there are worse candidates around

Aye, probably better as well.

 

[DazBlade88]

He doesn't show his passion for the game in the right way, so we should stay clear

If we do get rid of Weir then I'd be content with Clough as a replacement. There are probably better and worse options but in terms of managers out of work that are also realistic targets, he has to be up there.

 

[broomhillblade]

Clough would not be my first choice but at least he has served his apprenticeship as a manager.


PS What's Pesky doing these days?

 

[JohnDenver]

PS What's Pesky doing these days?

Less than Clough.

 

[Oreyt]

Less than Clough.

That has a pleasingly 'Street' ring to it.

"How much you got bruv?"

"Gee, I've got less than Clough. I'm bare down to the Nigels, seen?"

 

[JohnDenver]

That has a pleasingly 'Street' ring to it.

"How much you got bruv?"

"Gee, I've got less than Clough. I'm bare down to the Nigels, seen?"

Innit?

 

[sitwell]

Should we be making plans for Nigel ?
He has a future near British Steel
He could be happy ,happy in his work .

 

[true99blade]

All this talk of managers showing passion on the sidelines is nonsense. I don't think I've seen many promoted League 1 clubs with managers who achieve promotion by waving their arms about and yelling at players. They achieve promotion by playing winning football. Clough achieved this with Burton, and regardless of him not achieving it at Derby he hasn't suffered a relegation with them, something we will all suffer this season if Weir doesn't feck off.

 

[Kev Gee]

I dont know if clough is the answer, but at least he has plenty of experience now.

 

[DazBlade88]

All this talk of managers showing passion on the sidelines is nonsense.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[alcoblade]

In 15 years of management, Clough has made about as much progress as an asthmatic ant with heavy shopping.

Seriously, Blackadder must have stolen that line from Clough's future epitaph.

I'd be really disappointed with this. Something about him smacks of Weir, and his non football.

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Couldn't agree more.

Aye, it's an overused line. But some passion and drive on the field a pre requisite. Dull managers give rise to the suspicion that their teams are a reflection of themselves. I don't know the truth. I know our team is dull and passionless, and the manager should be sacked for that, not his personal lack of verve.

UTB

 

[Fazak]

Frying Pan....fire.....?

I have got a lot of respect for Nigel Clough and I think he would do a very good job over three to five years, but if I were him I would stay well clear of United.

His mother sadly died recently and he has just been sacked from a job in which many consider he had acquitted himself well given the resources at his disposal. United are the last thing he needs with its current poisonous atmosphere..

I'm afraid that United supporters need to wake up and smell the coffee, beggars can't be choosers. We should be grateful if anyone half decent shows a glimmer of interest in the job - assuming it actually becomes available, which I sincerely hope it doesn't.

 

[alcoblade]

I have got a lot of respect for Nigel Clough and I think he would do ament very good job over three to five years, but if I were him I would stay well clear of United.

His mother sadly died recently and he has just been sacked from a job in which many consider he had acquitted himself well given the resources at his disposal. United are the last thing he needs with its current poisonous atmosphere..

I'm afraid that United supporters need to wake up and smell the coffee, beggars can't be choosers. We should be grateful if anyone half decent shows a glimmer of interest in the job - assuming it actually becomes available, which I sincerely hope it doesn't.

We have been told we have just had "game changing" investment. That can't possibly mean that we still have to take the scraps off the dole queue. Surely waking up and smelling the coffee means that we could expect to at least try and attract the likes of Steve Evans from Rotherham, Garry Johnsons from Yeovil, - managers who've demonstrated success albeit at our low level.

Having just paid the price for appointing a manager with no track record, let's not appoint someone who's had 15 season's of effort with not one success to his name.

Surely, surely we can do better? Failure to do so will put the nail in the coffin of this "game changing" investment.

UTB

 

[Bath Blade]

Having just paid the price for appointing a manager with no track record, let's not appoint someone who's had 15 season's of effort with not one success to his name.

I think that's a bit unfair. In Clough's time at Burton they finished in a higher position than the previous season in every season he was there including several promotions.

 

[alcoblade]

I think that's a bit unfair. In Clough's time at Burton they finished in a higher position than the previous season in every season he was there including several promotions.

I stand corrected, but I can only see one promotion, from the NPL to the Conference over 10 years ago. He left before they were promoted to L2. Am I missing some others?

UTB

 

[JohnDenver]

We have been told we have just had "game changing" investment. That can't possibly mean that we still have to take the scraps off the dole queue.

In contrast to endless divestment, simply not selling anything with a pulse is game changing.

 

[alcoblade]

In contrast to endless divestment, simply not selling anything with a pulse is game changing.

I agree, to a point. I'm happy for us to just start building rather than destroying. But appointing Nigel Clough off the dole queue isn't game changing, an anyone's book.

UTB

 

[Fazak]

Surely, surely we can do better? Failure to do so will put the nail in the coffin of this "game changing" investment.

I agree and sincerely hope that we could manage to attract someone with a proven track record as you describe when the need arises.

What concerns me is that those types of successful manager don't grow on trees and with United's recent record on the managerial front, they might be forgiven for thinking that there are perhaps better options out there than United.

 

[JohnDenver]

What concerns me is that those types of successful manager don't grow on trees and with United's recent record on the managerial front, they might be forgiven for thinking that there are perhaps better options out there than United.

Perhaps...

But the job Weir inherited was a hand-grenade. The job he'll probably leave behind will be a great opportunity.

 

[alcoblade]

Perhaps...

But the job Weir inherited was a hand-grenade. The job he'll probably leave behind will be a great opportunity.

Really? Why so?

He inherited a reasonable team with a full pre season ahead of him, a bit of initial backing which has grown to allow him to sign 13 players, losing only one of any significance.

The hand grenade was the one he built himself, forcing a rigid regime on a limited squad rather than taking a practical approach to change. Almost forgivable, if it weren't for the subsequent refusal to ignore what was playing out in front of him, whilst again simply refusing to show an iota of flexibility.

UTB

 

[JohnDenver]

Really? Why so?

He inherited a reasonable team...

It was a declining team which he had to improve while making a regular profit for the Chairman. That's football alchemy.

What changed was HRH. The resources we now have, even if exaggerated, should be plenty to succeed with. Although it's gone completely wrong for Weir, the new guy can't fail to improve us in the short term (nice honeymoon ahoy), and come January he will get the chance to make more changes.

I expect us to finish this season as the league's form team.

 

[judge]

It would be a step up from weir but I have the feeling in the 6 months /a year/2 years we would be not much better off and looking for some one else

Heard danny murphy on the radio earlier who said he has known many brilliant managers who have failed because they didnt have the right staff around them either through budget constraints or they simply werent allowed

Maybe this is weirs problem

 

[Pinchy]

We have been told we have just had "game changing" investment. That can't possibly mean that we still have to take the scraps off the dole queue. Surely waking up and smelling the coffee means that we could expect to at least try and attract the likes of Steve Evans from Rotherham, Garry Johnsons from Yeovil, - managers who've demonstrated success albeit at our low level.

Having just paid the price for appointing a manager with no track record, let's not appoint someone who's had 15 season's of effort with not one success to his name.

Surely, surely we can do better? Failure to do so will put the nail in the coffin of this "game changing" investment.

UTB

If HRH has a say in any change, he'll want a more spectacular appointment than either of those two. Further, and sorry to dash your hopes, he will want a proper footballing manager. I say that, not out of personal preference, but because it's true. Oh, and thankfully we won't touch Warnock with a barge pole.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

If HRH has a say in any change, he'll want a more spectacular appointment than either of those two. Further, and sorry to dash your hopes, he will want a proper footballing manager. I say that, not out of personal preference, but because it's true. Oh, and thankfully we won't touch Warnock with a barge pole.

Such as?

 

[stannyblade]

Such as?

Mate of mine suggested George Burley to me this morning if when Weir is sacked.

 

[cooperblade]

Mate of mine suggested George Burley to me this morning if when Weir is sacked.

Suppose Kendall's old drinks cabinet hasn't had much use since Captain Drunk left