CONFIRMED: Chris Wilder appointed

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Pinchy said:
My problem is that he's being appointed precisely because he's a Blade. That is unprofessional and plain wrong. You get no extra points for being a Blade - ask Quickfix Mickey. He's a poor manager. Your unconvincing attempts at football alchemy don't alter that one jot. Your touchstone is on the blink, I'm afraid.
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Pinch.

Give the lad a fucking break and an opportunity at least to prove you right (or wrong;))

If he gets us up, your gonna look a right twat fella.

Ignoring (conveniently) what Wilder has achieved at Northampton purely cos of his past connections is utter madness.

If he fucks up, he fucks up. Being a Blade will have fuck all to do with it !!

This comes from a fully paid up member of the Tufty Club, for which I make no apology :).

Onwards.

UTB
 

Hopefully this Bladey McBladeface isn't a repeat of the last one! Wasn't he doing well in L2 at the time as well?
 
hello said:
Reason I like him ...those high crosses into the box for Deano....the long punts upfield for Agana..excellent long ball. Love it me.
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No problem there. It was when the high crosses were aimed at Paul Williams and the long punts towards Jostein Flo....

Wilder was a good player. A stylish, cultured full-back. I used to really enjoy watching him in the juniors. He was one of three or four excellent players - Marsden and another blond lad (Ashforth or similar name?) were excellent and proper footballers.

As a manager he's a proven mediocrity who likes to hoof it. Shame...still I suppose he's good on a night out and remembers names.
 
DronnieBlade said:
Pinch.

Give the lad a fucking break and an opportunity at least to prove you right (or wrong;))

If he gets us up, your gonna look a right twat fella.

Ignoring (conveniently) what Wilder has achieved at Northampton purely cos of his past connections is utter madness.

If he fucks up, he fucks up. Being a Blade will have fuck all to do with it !!

This comes from a fully paid up member of the Tufty Club, for which I make no apology :).

Onwards.

UTB
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You shouldn't make any apology Dronnie. I sincerely hope that he proves me wrong. It has to happen one day :)

Seriously, unlike some, I regard the issue of whether I'm right or wrong as infinitely less important than my club rising from the dead. I think Nigel Adkins, despite a very poor start, would be a much better bet to achieve that.

As I have said elsewhere, I liked Wilder very much as a player and he seems a very decent chap (so is NA by the way). I just think he's been appointed to appease the Bladey Blades and that's a very poor reason.
 
Pinchy said:
My problem is that he's being appointed precisely because he's a Blade. That is unprofessional and plain wrong. You get no extra points for being a Blade - ask Quickfix Mickey. He's a poor manager. Your unconvincing attempts at football alchemy don't alter that one jot. Your touchstone is on the blink, I'm afraid.
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How is he a poor manager? He's just won a league title with 99 points! Ha ha. Prior to that he got Oxford promoted.

Managers are going to have ups and downs, I'd rather us hire a manager whilst he is on an upward curve in his career.
 
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SelbyBlade said:
Chris Wilder appointed according to teletext not like the Blades to be so fast.
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sitwell said:
Have you been this season ?
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Of course. I've had a season ticket for 50 years. It's been very poor, but managers of quality have turned poor beginnings around before and will again. When football managerial history is written, there will be more credits in the Nigel Adkins paragraph than the Chris Wilder sentence.
 
Pinchy said:
Of course. I've had a season ticket for 50 years. It's been very poor, but managers of quality have turned poor beginnings around before and will again. When football managerial history is written, there will be more credits in the Nigel Adkins paragraph than the Chris Wilder sentence.
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Tell me the signs that he was turning it round ,what foundations he had laid for the future ,any positives at all. If he had played for Utd 30 years ago what would your nickname for him be ?
I had you down as an intelligent person but surely you must see how ridiculous your stance is.
 
sitwell said:
Tell me the signs that he was turning it round ,what foundations he had laid for the future ,any positives at all. If he had played for Utd 30 years ago what would your nickname for him be ?
I had you down as an intelligent person but surely you must see how ridiculous your stance is.
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I don't think he was turning it round mate. I do think he would. This is a far bigger job than any of us like to think.

I don't want Wilder to fail. Very far from it. I do think he will. I think he's been appointed for all the wrong reasons and I have endured enough ale house football at my club to last me through next season without watching any more.
 
It's done he's gone the King is dead long live the King and if you want to change that buy the club.
For me you can date the decline of this clubs fortunes with the lust by some for tippy tappy football and the sacking of our last kick and rush manager Mr Blackwell .IMO.
But I think the time to judge a manager should be at the end of the season not before he's even had time to park his backside no matter what kind of football he plays.!!!!

UTB
 
Pinchy said:
Not a matter which I've given any thought mate because I would have allowed Nigel Adkins, a man whose managerial accomplishments eclipse those of Tufty the Blade by a very long way, to carry on with the massive rebuilding job he was given three years to do. I would expect him, after a very shaky start, to have his act together by then and to deliver Championship football, playing the game the right way. What on earth makes you think Wilder will do what he did last season, as opposed to the manifest mediocrity of the previous decade and a half?
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Howard Kendall won the League and FA Cup, but we didn't do a great deal under him did we apart from a bloody drab play off final that Hopkins won a minute from time.

At times your views indicate a mardy arse of the highest order. Christ if you ever employed anyone I'd hate being an applicant unless your name was Sugar, Trump or John Harvey fucking Jones !
 

Told you a cheap option would come in. Yes he won promotion from league two. Remember when they turned to old boy in Micky Adams see what happened to him.
 
Pinchy said:
My problem is that he's being appointed precisely because he's a Blade. That is unprofessional and plain wrong. You get no extra points for being a Blade - ask Quickfix Mickey. He's a poor manager. Your unconvincing attempts at football alchemy don't alter that one jot. Your touchstone is on the blink, I'm afraid.
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Pinchy,

Appointing a Blade does have advantages.

Galvanising the fanbase and making BL a hostile fortress could be a factor in creating success.
When NA spoke about "the club needs to be United" etc people quickly thought he was a bulshitter.
NA hasn't a clue how us Blades feel about being in league 1 and losing to Fleetwood etc.
However Wilder understand the club and the supporters.

I agree NA has a fantastic cv and you have to believe that at some point he'll come good.
But he was like a manager version of Higden.
Highly rated but if I didn't know about his great cv then I'd say he's worse than both Clough and Wilson.
The negatives of his stay far outweigh the positives.

I've heard it said that Adkins was a manager on his way down the ladder where as we should appoint someone already in a job achieving success on his way up. Wilder is that man.

I was convinced that we'd got the best possible manager when we appointed Adkins but almost every match was underwhelming. I still not convinced Wilder will be a success (what do I know) but of course he'll get my full support and I'm excited about next season.
 
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Sheffsteel said:
Pinchy,

Appointing a Blade does have advantages.

Galvanising the fanbase and making BL a hostile fortress could be a factor in creating success.
When NA spoke about "the club needs to be United" etc people quickly thought he was a bulshitter.
NA hasn't a clue how us Blades feel about being in league 1 and losing to Fleetwood etc.
However Wilder understand the club and the supporters.

I agree NA has a fantastic cv and you have to believe that at some point he'll come good.
But he was like a manager version of Higden.
Highly rated but if I didn't know about his great cv then I'd say he's worse than both Clough and Wilson.
The negatives of his stay far outweigh the positives.

I've heard it said that Adkins was a manager on his way down the ladder where as we should appoint someone already in a job achieving success on his way up. Wilder is that man.

I was convinced that we'd got the best possible manager when we appointed Adkins but almost every match was underwhelming. I still not convinced Wilder will be a success (what do I know) but of course he'll get my full support and I'm excited about next season.
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Well argued, but people said much the same about Old Muckanettles Morgan in the caretaker spells. Passion, desire, commitment, knows the club. All the same platitudes that, just like Adkins buzzwords, proved meaningless. Once the upanatem fervour dissipated (as it inevitably does) after a couple of matches, his ineptitude became clear and culminated in defeat at the hands of.....Yeovil.

As to 'understanding the fan base', if he anticipates that a significant and noisy (abuse, not support) minority are the crudest, most parochial, least sophisticated and most poisonous bunch of idiots in the land, then he'll not be disappointed. That's one thing Nigel Adkins 'got' and he was absolutely correct.
 
Pinchy said:
My problem is that he's being appointed precisely because he's a Blade. That is unprofessional and plain wrong.
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I've no doubt it's a reason he's been on our radar for a while, but this is a little different at least in that we know if he hadn't joined us he'd have joined one of our rivals for promotion. I suspect they are less concerned by his Bladey Blade credentials.
 
Pinchy said:
Well argued, but people said much the same about Old Muckanettles Morgan in the caretaker spells. Passion, desire, commitment, knows the club. All the same platitudes that, just like Adkins buzzwords, proved meaningless. Once the upanatem fervour dissipated (as it inevitably does) after a couple of matches, his ineptitude became clear and culminated in defeat at the hands of.....Yeovil.

As to 'understanding the fan base', if he anticipates that a significant and noisy (abuse, not support) minority are the crudest, most parochial, least sophisticated and most poisonous bunch of idiots in the land, then he'll not be disappointed. That's one thing Nigel Adkins 'got' and he was absolutely correct.
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Yer going to be disappointed if it goes well Pinchy, it will gnaw at you.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
I've no doubt it's a reason he's been on our radar for a while, but this is a little different at least in that we know if he hadn't joined us he'd have joined one of our rivals for promotion. I suspect they are less concerned by his Bladey Blade credentials.
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Maybe and now he's here of course I want him to succeed. But the bollocks has already started. Read local hack Shields' column today. Look at professional 'Blade' Steve Cowens' twatter account - insulting a good man and a good manager in Nigel Adkins whilst sycophantically tweeting "congrats to my friend Chris Wilder, 100% behind you, the pride & passion will return", conveniently ignoring, of course 'my friend's' 15 years of mediocrity.

Nauseating, obsequious, parochial claptrap and it's only day one.
 
Pinchy said:
Maybe and now he's here of course I want him to succeed. But the bollocks has already started. Read local hack Shields' column today. Look at professional 'Blade' Steve Cowens' twatter account - insulting a good man and a good manager in Nigel Adkins whilst sycophantically tweeting "congrats to my friend Chris Wilder, 100% behind you, the pride & passion will return", conveniently ignoring, of course 'my friend's' 15 years of mediocrity.

Nauseating, obsequious, parochial claptrap and it's only day one.
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Here's to day two and day three and .......
 
Pinchy said:
No problem there. It was when the high crosses were aimed at Paul Williams and the long punts towards Jostein Flo....

Wilder was a good player. A stylish, cultured full-back. I used to really enjoy watching him in the juniors. He was one of three or four excellent players - Marsden and another blond lad (Ashforth or similar name?) were excellent and proper footballers.

As a manager he's a proven mediocrity who likes to hoof it. Shame...still I suppose he's good on a night out and remembers names.
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Have you seen Northampton play? What makes you think he likes to hoof it?
 
Robson, Adams, Wilson, Clough and Adkins all had promotions on their CV but all failed when they came to Bramall Lane.

The club has been in a coma since 2007. I can't see how Wilder is going to sort it out.
 

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