[Confirmed] Britton back to Swansea?

[alcoblade]

Not bothered about Great Britton I want a UNITED Kingdom!

I want to see chances and goal mouth action where we actually have a chance of scoring a gola or two. I am not here to see crab football, nor do I want to damage my neck looking for the ball in the clouds. A good mixture of quick incisive play resulting in some end product, dead simple. A lot of people talk absolute twaddle about a pure style of football, The aim of the game is to score more goals that your opponent - that's it. How you get there doesn't really count as long as the game is exciting and enjoyable to watch. Sadly, there are too many that believe there is only one way to address this and they pour scorn on anything else that may be different. The real tragedy is that managers and coaches strive to reach this holy grail of "Spanish / Arsenal" style football without having the quality to deliver it. The trend for one striker up front is a prime example but that only works if you have a pacey and skillful midfield who can get up to support the front man before they lose possession.

Personally I like to see width in a game with good wingers making runs, skinning their full back and putting in a decent cross for the front pair to attack. I like to see people shooting from outside the area, I like to see quality headed goals form set pieces. I don't like to see my team being negative throughut the 90 minutes like they have been for months before MA joined. He has a massive job to do and needs to freshen it up a lot otherwise the malaise will see us drop. Britton is not the awe inspiring midfield general we all hoped he would be. He will not be a great loss to this team so if he can be used to bring in someone that will make a difference then I am fully behind Micky and how he is transforming the club into something we can believe in and get behind again.

As I said, I am not bothered about Great Britton I want a United Kingdom

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How many goals and assists has Britton this season - Amaze me!

^^^what he said.

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b) it's another talented player who has found it impossible to perform at Bramall Lane for an extended amount of time. Why does this keep happening?

For too long we have played a style that doesn't support midfield craft. The trouble is, as we've found, you can only move away from this gradually. Even when we poured cash at it, we failed. Without it, it's next to impossible to do quickly.

Perhaps Britton is a luxury we can't afford. Yes it says a lot about where we're at. But we are where we're at.

I think Adams is a very practical manager who can't be pidgeon holed. He will play the style that best suites the moment. A highly paid Leon Britton doesn't fit this moment.

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Good. You want rid of Montgomery as well then? That's you, me and Puppet so far. Not a bad mix.

I think a lot will disagree about Monty's effectiveness, including the last 6 managers. I think far less would disagree that he, along with a few others, are being paid well above their worth.

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[raul]

The thing is, I've got no real objection to Britton going as I doubt he will be very effective in such a direct style, but:

a) if we don't get a hefty fee through whatever means, it will be shocking business. Loan plus payment at the end of the season would get round the rumoured rule that's been talked about

b) it's another talented player who has found it impossible to perform at Bramall Lane for an extended amount of time. Why does this keep happening?

I'll have a go Hotto

1) We tend as a group of fans to build our new signings up far far too much. This is usually followed by a few weeks of praise, then a bit of "we're not playing to his strengths", right behind is deathly silnece and finished off with "well, he wasn't any good in the first place really was he? Who said he was??". When we start to assess a players usefulness based on contibutions in a dozen or so games and abandon our pre-conceptions maybe it'll happen that little bit less often. Specifically on Britton - I've not seen many games this season but I'd suggest he's a good cog in a well-oiled machine, we're a 1983 Lada Riva.

2) The players around him are not as good as the ones he used to play with. Not just Britton btw.

 

[Revolution]

b) it's another talented player who has found it impossible to perform at Bramall Lane for an extended amount of time. Why does this keep happening?

I know that this view is highly unpopular in some quarters, but one of my theories is that the likes of Howard, Harper and Britton have failed because when they are in a 4-4-2 they are usually partnered by Monty, who has the most limited attacking ability in the Championship. This means that all of the attacking burden has to be shouldered by Monty's partner, and it's too hard to do. Support for this theory comes from the fact that some of these players (notably Howard) are much more comforatable in 4-5-1, where they have more help. The job is too hard for Britton because his attacking abilities are almost as limited as Monty's - he can't shoot, and whilst he can pass, he's very slow and he's not brave.


As I have said before, the signing of Britton when we had already extended Quinn and Monty was dumb in the extreme. I might add, though, that Britton is the last one of the 3 I would get rid of, but I am long since resigned to Monty completing 500 league games for United, probably in league one.

 

[raul]

He was interviewed on talkSport last night and basically said he'd struggled to come to terms with the differing style of play (he stopped well short of saying we lumped it) and the chopping and changing of managers.

 

[Balham]

He was interviewed on talkSport last night and basically said he'd struggled to come to terms with the differing style of play (he stopped well short of saying we lumped it) and the chopping and changing of managers.

That's no surprise - Blackwell was all about the direct (long ball) approach; Speed had the right idea but couldn't implement it; Carver was not the manager and then Swansea came calling before he could get used to Adams' style. He knows how they play, he fits into their system and evidently feels at home down there.

I think he wouldn't have fitted into Adams' style because he's got no pace at all. If you're trying to control the play and it's all about possession then he's a good player - he'd fit into Doncaster's system perfectly. If it's about quick, short passing football aimed at getting the ball forward (the two are not mutually exclusive!) then he's less effective owing to that lack of mobility.

I know that this view is highly unpopular in some quarters, but one of my theories is that the likes of Howard, Harper and Britton have failed because when they are in a 4-4-2 they are usually partnered by Monty, who has the most limited attacking ability in the Championship.

None of those three has exactly pulled up any trees since they left though. Monty has his limitations but in his mobility and positioning is too similar to Harper and Britton to play CM effectively with either. Howard couldn't defend so was a liability in a two man central midfield.

 

[Revolution]

Howard couldn't defend so was a liability in a two man central midfield.

Same goes in reverse for Monty, who can't attack so is a liability in a 2 man central midfield.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Howard couldn't defend so was a liability in a two man central midfield.

Same goes in reverse for Monty, who can't attack so is a liability in a 2 man central midfield.

can he tackle well though or is he just a liability?

 

[Revolution]

can he tackle well though or is he just a liability?

His tackling is average. A worrying trend, which has got worse in the last 2 seasons, is the way he runs into the back of people, giving away free kicks and penalties.

 

[Grecian2000]

His tackling is no better than adequate. He is beaten far too easily, and often, by players already in possesion "showing him the ball" and nipping it around him. He is OK before they have taken possesion properly when he can launch in and hit them.
Gives away too many free kicks for a good tackler (i.e. Len Badger was a master at it).

 

[Sensiblade]

I thought this thread was about Leon Britton

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I thought this thread was about Leon Britton

His tackling is no better than adequate. He is beaten far too easily, and often, by players already in possesion "showing him the ball" and nipping it around him.

That could have been Britton at times.

 

[Ollessendro]

I read somewhere that Britton and Paulo Souza didn't get on. He left before Souza left the club and would probably have stayed at Swansea if he had known.

 

[super_pig]

i've said it before and i'll say it again..
this team will never move on while monty is in it.. he's an ok tackler.. but then he gives the opposition the ball straight back anyway so that is moot.. if we bought lionel messi tomorrow he'd sit on the bench watching monty.. people in the stand would bleat 'ooh he'd run through a brick wall for this club and yadda yadda'.. messi would be too skilful for the team and eventually leave citing homesickness, crap weather, dog eat homework and everyone would say.. 'good riddance he's crap anyway'
for messi insert reid or whoever the next victim is

 

[Vancouver]

I may be wrong but I dont think Reid even played under Adams. Reid was on the bench for Sunderland on Sunday youre living in dreamland if you think youll see him in red & white stripes other than on MOTD

He's only on the bench because of huge injury problems for sun'land according to a mackem season ticket holder I know.

 

[muttsnuts]

Well said Pinchy.
We are definately the dinosaurs of English football and the supporters just cannot see beyond their nose end.

Dinosaurs of English football? explain

 

[Jostein Flo]

Dinosaurs of English football? explain

Once quite a big thing... not so much recently... and could be brought back to life with the investment of a slightly mad billionaire (possibly with his own island theme park, but that's not a requirement)

 

[gavtheblade]

thought he was crap from the outset,far too lightweight and no goal input-CRAP.

 

[Kev Gee]

Fuck off back to Swansea then you little fucktard.............No Bottle!!!!