Come on then Wilder lovers

[Montymagic]

I'm an optimist and think we will get better. It's a belief thing I appreciate the evidence doesn't exactly support it

I'm praying with you.

But I just don't get that vibe from the players that they can do it

 

[Bladesince59]

SELL, SEL, SELL... that's the Blades' way

 

[sitwell]

He’d still be there now with idiots clapping along like seals.

Its not just Sheff Utd you hate its the fans too. what a guy.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Its not just Sheff Utd you hate its the fans too. what a guy.

Calling someone an idiot isn't hate, it's thinking that the other person is doing something daft. Hate is a misused and overused word generally these days, and specifically in the "Wilder debate" on here. There are people in my life who I've loved and respected, but who, like me, now and then do daft and ridiculous things. I don't hate them, they don't hate me, and you have no evidence that KMC-1889 hates Blades fans either.
Perhaps reel in the hate assessments a bit?? There's a bit too much of the H word around these days!!

 

[Zeblades34]

Sat rock bottom of table and rather than wanting things to get better some of us are out here with "i told you so" posts.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Sat rock bottom of table and rather than wanting things to get better some of us are out here with "i told you so" posts.

I think I said this earlier.

 

[Zeblades34]

Had less than a week with the squad, probably doesn't know his best team yet. This is why this should have been done after boro during the international break would've had more or less an extra week with the squad. We will get better.

 

[Balham]

Yes, mentioning a points total 3 times in one paragraph is exceedingly dull

92 points is becoming the new 4-0

every time some idiot mentions 92 points I’m going to have to remind them we were 10 points off autos and the other team that got promoted has 76.

It was 90 points. We lost 2 points because we defaulted on payments for Rhian Brewster, a financial millstone forced on the club by (checks notes) Chris Wilder.

 

[Carlton Blade]

It was 90 points. We lost 2 points because we defaulted on payments for Rhian Brewster, a financial millstone forced on the club by (checks notes) Chris Wilder.

I gave up that argument months ago but I'm very much back onboard

#90not92

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Even if we win every game to the end of the season, I still don't get why we got Wilder back.

You don't get divorced or bin your girlfriend off, then go back to her after a few months, I mean WTF.

 

[Pintor75]

It was 90 points. We lost 2 points because we defaulted on payments for Rhian Brewster, a financial millstone forced on the club by (checks notes) Chris Wilder.

No,no you're wrong, only the good signings were wilders the bad ones are the coh, the Prince, Selles or AI, you should know that if you're on here regularly

 

[Tony Currie]

Where are you.

Give it a rest. One match - After the match we got the honesty from Wilder that had been lacking from Selles. He admits he has a task on his hands, it just needs a few weeks of coaching from Wilder and Knill (especially to get that defense organised) and we have the squad to get out of this mess.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Even if we win every game to the end of the season, I still don't get why we got Wilder back.

You don't get divorced or bin your girlfriend off, then go back to her after a few months, I mean WTF.

The only positive thing about it for me is that we aren't paying a 3rd manager, i.e. paying Wilder out of his contract that he got sacked from, Selles out of his contract that he got sacked from and then a 3rd manager say for argument sake Dyche. Least this way some of the cost to recruitment and contracts would have been worked out in advance. But I was in the no to Wilder (anything past 1.0) if anything I would have preferred another option but now he is here it is what it is

 

[reedy63]

You can not blame Chris Wilder for the position we are in; the game against Charlton was nowhere near the standard of last season. After only one game, you have to be patient and give Wilder the chance to turn our performances around. It will take a few games; however, we have to win at Oxford next Saturday to instil confidence. I trust Chris Wilder to get us back on track. I am sure the American owners trust in Wilder as well. They realised they had made a massive mistake getting rid of him and appointing Selles, who was out of his depth. Some of the new players signed in the recent transfer window are not good enough, so they can get rid of them in the January transfer window.

 

[Tarqs]

That's not what's worrying me about this, it's who is it that's making these decisions ?
It's OK blaming Mr Wilder but it goes deeper than that, for the owners it's all about profit.
I can accept that,
But for me it's that black cloud over my head that will be following me about all week......

The owners have spent a fair bit so far....

I think they can wave goodbye to this profit.

 

[Tarqs]

You can not blame Chris Wilder for the position we are in; the game against Charlton was nowhere near the standard of last season. After only one game, you have to be patient and give Wilder the chance to turn our performances around. It will take a few games; however, we have to win at Oxford next Saturday to instil confidence. I trust Chris Wilder to get us back on track. I am sure the American owners trust in Wilder as well. They realised they had made a massive mistake getting rid of him and appointing Selles, who was out of his depth. Some of the new players signed in the recent transfer window are not good enough, so they can get rid of them in the January transfer window.

That charlton game was exactly the same as the millwall, oxford, plymouth games at the back end of last season, with momentum and with a better team.

 

[Roygbiv]

That charlton game was exactly the same as the millwall, oxford, plymouth games at the back end of last season, with momentum and with a better team.

Yeah I think there is a bit of revisionism about how we played for the most part in the 2nd part of the season. We played small margin games that went our way because we had better players than the opposition. Now with confidence down and a weaker squad, we need to improve in terms of how we create changes because those close wins will become close defeats

 

[reedy63]

Tarqs, of course, you are correct. But I was talking about this season, having said that, if Chris Wilder can't improve thus , we are in deep shit.

 

[AnotherBlade]

It was 90 points. We lost 2 points because we defaulted on payments for Rhian Brewster, a financial millstone forced on the club by (checks notes) Chris Wilder.

wasnt him that defaulted on the fucking payment!!!

 

[Maidenhead]

wasnt him that defaulted on the fucking payment!!!

No, but it was him that relentlessly pushed the board to sign the waste of space.

 

[CornwallBlade]

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Whoooosh!

 

[CornwallBlade]

every time some idiot mentions 92 points I’m going to have to remind them we were 10 points off autos and the other team that got promoted has 76.

And when the chips were down, the manager bottled it tactically in the run up and the final. He was giving it large to Leeds when the same happened to them. Players were rattled as well but that’s down to
Leadership on and off the pitch ( cf CW and JR picking fights etc)

 

[CornwallBlade]

Give it a rest. One match - After the match we got the honesty from Wilder that had been lacking from Selles. He admits he has a task on his hands, it just needs a few weeks of coaching from Wilder and Knill (especially to get that defense organised) and we have the squad to get out of this mess.

Errr, saying he’s got a lot to do is just buying time. If we’d won 3-0 he’d have lapped it up. Wait for the “players aren’t good enough” etc if things don’t improve. AKA I’ m here until the Jan transfer window when I’ll demand MY signings. Roll forward, it all goes to shit and he either flounces out (again) or gets sacked (again - kerching)
I really, really hope I’m wrong but this has a distinct smell of inevitability about it.

 

[wavy-blade]

Here you go Chris , this is the squad can you get us up this year ?

 

[GymClassHero]

You can not blame Chris Wilder for the position we are in; the game against Charlton was nowhere near the standard of last season. After only one game, you have to be patient and give Wilder the chance to turn our performances around. It will take a few games; however, we have to win at Oxford next Saturday to instil confidence. I trust Chris Wilder to get us back on track. I am sure the American owners trust in Wilder as well. They realised they had made a massive mistake getting rid of him and appointing Selles, who was out of his depth. Some of the new players signed in the recent transfer window are not good enough, so they can get rid of them in the January transfer window.

If only getting rid of them was that easy! We would have a job to shift Tom Cannon. Not that I think Wilder would let him go anyway, we are stuck with him and probably a few others as well.

 

[TJ blade]

If only getting rid of them was that easy! We would have a job to shift Tom Cannon. Not that I think Wilder would let him go anyway, we are stuck with him and probably a few others as well.

Wilder signed him. So he's bound to give him game time!!

 

[kop blade]

tufty cant play only watch its up the players to turn up and win

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

The worry for me is that CW played the same system that has brought us zero points so far this season.

 

[ekke287]

The worry for me is that CW played the same system that has brought us zero points so far this season.

Exactly this. My concern with CW has always been a lack of Plan B. It’s obvious Plan A isn’t working, so we need someone who can trial more formation options and learn to adapt very quickly.

I don’t think we’ve ever seen that with Wilder.

The other issue is if we sure up the defence as a starting point, we’re always prone to a 1-0 defeat, as we’re not focusing on the attack side, so won’t score.

To me it looks very much like:

Bristol City - Played front front attacking football like we saw pre season, but their early second half goal killed the game and we were scrambling about.

Millwall / Swansea / Boro - Selles is focussing on defence to try and get us solid without the threat, hence 1-0 losses.

Ipswich - Selles, massively under pressure and with performance data in his pocket drops Hamer and Campbell, and tries to get his new signings to gel immediately with catastrophic results.

Charlton - Wilder sticks to a standard line up, despite having minimal time to asses players like Matos, Soumare, Tanga, McGuiness and Ogbene. With zero threat we’re riding our luck most of the game and concede in the last minutes. A point would’ve been at least a starting point, a win looked extremely unlikely outside of hoping for some Hamer magic.

Now Oxford becomes our seventh game with probably the same amount of pressure. We need CW to get a tune out of players he doesn’t know, and of those he does, some confidence building.

Hamer, Peck, Cooper, Campbell, Burrows, O’Hare, Seriki, these are all his players or players he’s worked with extensively, so it’s not like a full squad of newbies to gel.

I’m really worried, and think Oxford will beat us as they’re no pushovers. We make every game look like hard work while the opposition is 2/3 passes before getting in on goal.

 

[1889]

The biggest problem is we have allowed ourselves to be reliant on just one striker, to score goals. The same striker, who struggled to play past 60 minutes last season and who this season, looks like he’d much rather be somewhere else? Worryingly I can see an injury on the horizon. Until this issue can be addressed I don’t see where a wins coming from?
On reflection our recruitment this summer was absolutely awful, we’ve signed 14 players to somehow make the team worse?