Come on Monty!!!

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Foxy said:
if theres never any end product, how do you describe his assists so far this season?
His assists have come from a header back across the face of goal and a couple of passes - not from probing runs and shots at goal which is where I said there was no end product. Especially until we have cover for Shipperly, we need players from all over the pitch to be able to weigh in with creativity and goals. Jagielka is the holding midfielder, why do we need Monty as well? We need creativity and I'm sorry but Monty is not creative whichever way you look at it. Monty is cover.
 

TonyAgana said:
I genuinely believe Nick Montgomery is not 1st team material.

So he hasn't performed in the first team? This confuses me as he's been a number of people's man of the match for weeks now.

TonyAgana said:
If giving 200% week in week out got teams promoted then Monty would be first on my team sheet. But it doesn't.

So you'd prefer the lads to have a few off days but then blinders?

TonyAgana said:
The crowd applaudes his "no-nonsense" tackling - but how often is he simply cleaning up a mess he's gotten himself into?

And how often is he cleaning up a mess Quinny has gotten them into? The latter is what I have seen most.

TonyAgana said:
Or how many times will he break down our own attack by laying the ball back 40 yards to Paddy?

Jags was one of the main offenders for this when in defence. He did it a few times from midfield as well. Don't just single out Monty for things. It makes you seem as though you aren't putting forward a reflective argument.

TonyAgana said:
We cheer him on when he's steaming through the park onto a through-ball but there is NEVER an end product.

So if he scored a few goals he'd be a different player in your eyes?

TonyAgana said:
He'd be my third choice behind Alan Quinn and Lilian Nalis.

Quinny, disappointing to the end of last season/pre-season. Did well the few times he's played but his passes have a habit of going astray. No-one seems to pick up on this though.

Nalis, looked confident and collected pre-season but flustered against Leicester and annoymous against Burnley and QPR. Dispossessed easlisy and showed little creative flair.

TonyAgana said:
Quinny gets goals and Lilian Nalis has one major addition to his game that Monty woefully lacks. Forward, intelligent, intuitive passing.

Quinny - 8 goals in 40 starting games for United (6 subs)
Nalis - many people blamed him for the goal at Burnley. Monty has had a lot of forward passes? No? Maybe I was watching a different few games then.

TonyAgana said:
I challenge Blades fans that back Montgomery to give me reason as to why he is picked before Nalis or Quinn.

See above. Monty is performing so why drop him? Nalis has been poor (and is apparently having some off-field troubles if the rumours are to be believed). Quinny played well with Monty in midfield to be more defensively minded. But Quinny does not defend, and can often be found further forward than the forwards. Fair enough he might score a few goals, but his lack of defending might cause them at the other end as well. He's too lightweight in the challenge and his passing needs improvement.

I'm sorry, but whatever Monty's doing, he's doing right.

As you say, Jags is not a creative midfielder but why shouldn't he be dropped in favour of one of the others? Monty has far outplayed Jags IMO when he was moved into midfield so why pick on Monty?

The best example that immediately springs to mind of a Monty run was in the first half v. Boston, but some people would chose that not to count for reason of their arguments (lower division side, just a first round cup match etc. etc.) If his runs and crosses don't produce an end product i.e. the forward fluffs it, why is that Monty's fault?

I like Monty and don't like people singling him out for criticism when there are players who have worse games but are still seen as the "golden boys." The more people pick on him, the more I stick up for him :) I like a good underdog.
 
Why do you think I'mn going into law, like a good debate :)

Some would say I actively involve myself in mass debates, others would just say I'm being mighty rude.
 
So if he scored a few goals he'd be a different player in your eyes?

Absolutely!

Look, I said in the post this would raise contention, but I read a few of your posts Linz, namely the "sick of this shite" one and I'm expressing an opinion that I think I've argued well enough - especially for a second ever post on any messageboard ever in the world... ever.

Anyway, I think time will tell. Monty has hit a rich vein of form, undeniably, but quality prevails - at least it should... ;)
 
Yeah, it's just a case of "we'll see". Just IMO, he deserves to keep his place while he's playing so well.

Not sure why my "sick of all this shite" thread has been brought into this but that post was borne of frustration after staying up arguing until 2am that Warnock shouldn't be sacked off the back of one defeat at QPR. What annoyed me was the personal abuse I was getting for stating an opinion. I hope you feel you haven't been personally abused by our responses to your post :) It's good to spark debate and as far as I'm aware, people haven't resorted to slinging insults around. We'd be expected to be told if that was the case.

Here's the thread in question... clicky
 
Linz said:
Some would say I actively involve myself in mass debates, others would just say I'm being mighty rude.

:D well I'd love to join you in a 1 on 1 mass debate if your ever up for it :p

I mean, you may need all the practice you can get :D
 
oooo...ya just don't know what your missing ;)

It's OK, I'll leave the offer open for ya. After you've seen me, you'll be gagging to take me up :)

Honestly.....
 
Selby Blade said:
It's OK, I'll leave the offer open for ya. After you've seen me, you'll be gagging to take me up :)

And after you've seen me, you'll be rescinding your offer ;)
 
this thready was started about 2 years ago... read the first post onwards.... De Ja Vu?
 

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