clough aims for top 2.. we shouldn't

[Davie Blade]

When was the last time the top three teams all reached 95 points?

and DKC

That is why there's a word called circa.

 

[TonyAgana]

and DKC

That is why there's a word called circa.

Ah, the get-out-clause.

 

[Kenilworth]

If we get Preston in the PO Semis I think they will be extra physical and bully us out of it.
Grayson will have learned from the two games in the league and will use the extra height and physicality to attempt to force the balance - expect more aggression, more targeting of our players, like Doyle, and some weak ref that will hand it to them. It's written

 

[Davie Blade]

Ah, the get-out-clause.

Lets help the illiterately challenged
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circa
Do the maths.

now 20 wins out of 22 for the ultra deluded.

 

[alcoblade]

Lets help the illiterately challenged
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circa
Do the maths.

now 20 wins out of 22 for the ultra deluded.

Blade too Long is still preparing for life in the Championship after automatic promotion, whatever you say.

He doesn't think exertions of winning both cups will have any toll on our season either.



UTB

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I appreciate your points, just a bit alarmed at your maths though!

Both BC and Swindon have 51 points. Adding 43 and 42 to that makes 94 and 93 (not 95 and 98).

That reduces your "27 points we need" already but more significantly this total is only based on their form remaining "as is" for the entire season. In real terms we need to gain 16 more points than them both between now and the end of the season. Still a big ask though.

It's not both of them, we only need one to slip up, we can't finish both 1st and 2nd.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Lets help the illiterately challenged
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circa
Do the maths.

now 20 wins out of 22 for the ultra deluded.

So we're c.shite as we can't all agree how shite we are?

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

As for the 27 points needed, this is based on current form,.if we all stay the same average wise between now and the end of the season we will finish on 72 points , bristol on 97.75, and swindon on 93.84....

I had added a point as I don't think we'll catch them on goal difference, I do appear to be one point out on swindon however, we will be 21.84 points behind not the 23 needed to draw level, the 23 became 24 for goal diff reasons.

So we need to get 24 more points than Swindon not 27, see if you sleep on it and calm down things are never as bad as they seem.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

But the 15 teams we went past were bottom / mid table, not top of the table and in banging form with strikers who score goals and defences who don't leak them.
UTB & FTP

Out of curiosity does any one know how many points we clawed back against the top four last season?

 

[raul]

Less than we needed.

 

[Tezza1889]

So we need to get 24 more points than Swindon not 27, see if you sleep on it and calm down things are never as bad as they seem.

The whole point of the thread was to bring a few down to earth on what clough had said so they didn't overreact should we miss our target of top two, as said from the man himself, looking at the reaction from yesterday I was right to post it up.

We can debate till the cows come home on the numbers, because as you know theres never any thing as a certainty in football, if there was, we'd not still be in the cups, as southampton, and qpr should have knocked us out, in short, football isn't predictable...

The post was based on current form, yesterday the teams in the original post all won, and we lost, this is reflective of thiers and our current form, all I did was point out that if their form mirrors the first half of the season then we need to be a bit smarter about our expectattions as fans, the club seem to just say what we want to hear, top two.....brayford...."etc" .....but if were not gonna hound the manager out again, we as fans need to keep our feet on the ground..

 

[Kenilworth]

If our form mirrors the first half of the season we won't even make the top 6 FFS!

 

[Tezza1889]

If our form mirrors the first half of the season we won't even make the top 6 FFS!

Exactly..... so clough targets a top two spot, we are not a threat to anybody in this league, we have been beatable all season, clough could not have said anything other than this, he has to bang that drum to keep everybody happy, I just hope they don't get too let down when nigels promise to them doesnt pay off, and we have to find another manager..

 

[Kenilworth]

Exactly..... so clough targets a top two spot, we are not a threat to anybody in this league, we have been beatable all season, clough could not have said anything other than this, he has to bang that drum to keep everybody happy, I just hope they don't get too let down when nigels promise to them doesnt pay off, and we have to find another manager..

Don't want another manager just want players to get out of this division - which needs more brawn than guile and then use the football in divisions above where it works. NC just hasn't Sussed what this division needs. He is giving them too much respect by keeping it tight and trying to out football teams when they at squits happy to watch us poss about with it knowing the they are going to outmuscle us if they get a chance to.

We don't alter the formation or tactics to the team. We always play the same way. We should be going for the jugular of the teams below us from the staring whistle - instead we look to be patient and wear them down. Sometimes we need to be more direct and take the initiative - get in front and then hit them on the counter as they try to chase the game.

 

[Jonboy60]

The season is 1 game either way exactly at half way

If swindon can get16 points in front of us in 23 ergo its wholly possible we can get 16 points in front of them .

All teams have runs where the form goes , thats why few clubs get 90 to 100 points

We know from bitter experience what its like to get 90 points and not go up , it could happen to swindon or bristol city if we can chase them down

To get 16 points in front of them we need 32 points more than them in 23.

 

[blade too long]

To get 16 points in front of them we need 32 points more than them in 23.

we only need to be 1 point in front of them in may

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

we only need to be 1 point in front of them in may

We can be ahead alphabetically.

 

[wizadry]

We can be ahead alphabetically.

Indeed,this is when we change our name to 'Blades'.

 

[TonyAgana]

"Illiterately challenged"

 

[Tezza1889]

Goal difference, we could pip em there..

 

[blade too long]

causing me some grief having to alter this every week

 

[Grecian2000]

Have a like BTL for a picture of my favourite invention of all time. Forget the wheel or the Internal Combustion Engine, it's the Shoot League Ladders every time for me.

 

[lazyfecklessblade]

Think thats the biggie, its not just one team we need to lose form, its 3 or 4 (maybe more after saturday). What looked like a soft league in july is now looking as bad as it did last year with wolves doin 100 points and brentford looking as class as they did..

15 is a huge gap, its five wins straight and five straight losses for the top three, so talking of top two is bananas as far as the stattos go especially on current form, and that's all we can work on sadly..

As far as maths go, its do able on paper cause there's no guarantee that swindon, mk, and brizzle won't choke..and we won't have another "season of two halves" last season was roy of the rovers stuff and a charge to safety that overachieved everybodys expectations....

We might not make autos, just don't go after clough, that's all I am trying to say here, some will, but if we can see the size of the job and pass that on, we might be able to protect him from the more reactionary amongst us, let's go long term with nigel whatever happens...